I seriously doubt that all of the CE have been sent out to suppliers and there will be no more since I have been checking all UK retailers regularly for it and haven't found a single one listed. I find it highly unlikely that Blizzard would ship the CE to US retailers and completely leave out the UK market.
I'm not suggesting that they've been sent to retailers. What I'm saying is Blizzard decides on a number of CE's to make (let's say 250,000 for the hell of it). They have to hire companies to make 250,000 of each item that goes in the CE's (things like the Diablo 3 skull memory stick holder, the hard cover art book, etc.) Those are being manufactured now. I don't know how they decide how many to make, but experience tells me that once they decide... that's it... they don't make more. If they just made more as needed then it wouldn't be very collectible or special. Bad business? I guess you could look at it like that. It sure doesn't make sense that they wouldn't want to sell more of the expensive version if they could. There's a downside to making too many of them too, because it seems like once the first week of release is over... any unsold CE ends up sitting in inventory forever (as I said above... I still see Cataclysm CE's sitting on my Best Buys shelf). So I'm sure they put a lot of thought into how many they make. Plus ordering up another 30,000 is probably way more expensive than the initial "big" order would be per item. One thing is for sure... there will be lots of them on ebay.
The ones on Ebay will probably be hella expensive.
Superfula beat me to it. I have only ever seen posts saying that RMAH HASN'T caused delays. Never seen the posts saying otherwise, but would be interesting if you could find them/if they were true.
Blue never said that SK GRB didn't cause a delay. And btw what do you expect Bashiok to say? "Yeah it's SK RMAH problems caused the delay..". Can you imagine how much rage that would cause?
No they didn't. Theres no post to be found where Bash or any other Blue said that the RMAH caused any delays.
Superfula beat me to it. I have only ever seen posts saying that RMAH HASN'T caused delays. Never seen the posts saying otherwise, but would be interesting if you could find them/if they were true.
Blue never said that SK GRB didn't cause a delay.
They did. Multiple times.
You probably have problems with reading, they never denied that SK GRB is the reason for the delay.
Superflua already posted Bashiok's response when the article went out where South Korea didn't aprove it and everyone freaked out.
Official Blizzard Quote:
I don't know what translation you're reading but no where has it been stated the release of the game on a whole is delayed because of a GRB rating. Might it delay the game in Korea? I suppose no one knows, but we still have some time since the game is not finished. We're playing internal builds, the entire game, we'd know if it was. I'd know.
I mean in the end arguing about this literally does nothing. The game has been delayed, it doesn't change anything if we know the sole reason why it is delayed. Also, Blizzard would probably never tell us for sure if there was a sole reason.
Superfula beat me to it. I have only ever seen posts saying that RMAH HASN'T caused delays. Never seen the posts saying otherwise, but would be interesting if you could find them/if they were true.
Theres much work to be done =[ The delay has nothing to do with it.
I wouldn't be entirely sure about that. I have no doubt's that Blizzard will push the game with a crap ton of bugs.
I think he meant that the RMAH Negotiating shouldn't have anything to deal with the delay?
My opinion, this was never the problem of the delay. I think Blue posts finally spoke the truth on this part. I think the fact the AH (both RM and GM) have bugs with it, the rune system isn't complete, and final touches on everything else, is why it's been delayed.
I also believe it's poor work that the rune system has so many problems with it. The rune system has been in the making since day 1. They actually had a decent system built that was just about finalized, but they trashed it and had no back up.
Keep in mind like I posted, a lot has changed with the rune system from the point..so who knows what the drop rate is like now... (though from the basic logic of it all, it seems like they would keep it the same.) But I think they wanted them to drop so much, due to how they locked before?
Hell, the rune system has changed so much to the point they don't even know what they are doing with it at this point lol.
Anyone knows of a website that has it for pre-order and ships worldwide? (israel)
To be honest, you might be SOL on getting a CE. Especially if you're looking for worldwide senders (since there's a lot of people that look for the same places)
I preordered mine at GameStop the weekend they announced the CE
Good news, we can try to win a key again. Bad news, no January release date, but doesn't mean we can't get an announcement in January. Heres to hopes of end of February or early March!
I would love to get the beta or release right about now. Just had ACL surgery so I'm going to be down for a few days. Would keep me busy, but no love from Blizzard
If the region were to fall into "civil" war, I fear it would effect this game to some extent.
Sad thing is, I care more about the release date than their war.
If South Korea was honestly what's keeping Blizzard from releasing the game, then I think they would just skip them in the release with this happening. However, since it's been stated that the game simply isn't where they want it to be, then I doubt this will keep it from being released.
Also, if you think about WoW, it took Blizzard A LONG time for them to release to multiple countries (pretty sure Japan being the most recent due to its gaming problems). So, I sincerely doubt they will delay release just for South Korea.
Then again, it is Blizzard and no one knows what they are thinking so all of this could be possible, or they could even be major Kim sympathizers and that is what really is delaying the game.
You think a player shouldn't be able to try out every skill, or that when you level up or get a different weapon that doesnt align with your build swapping should feel like a chore? I agree though that you shouldnt be able to swap 'during combat' or in a middle of a dungeon, but constantly more punishing trying to just improve yourself or try something else goes against the philosophy, and i wouldnt like that. WoW respec system had gold cap of 50, while to some it might have been significant during vanilla, beyond that the gold cost totally didnt matter, it couldve been free and noone would feel the difference. I really doubt they will have gold cost associated with respecs, and if there will, it wont be much more than what you spend on repairing your items.
is it really that hard to TP, click on alter > swap , click back on TP?
it should be like the wow system but be a lot more gold.
They don't want to punish people for swapping skills though; however, they also don't want people to be able to freely swap skills like in Diablo 2.
I think the alter swap is the best they will be able to do in order to balance it. They don't really punish the player by making them go back to town to switch skills, but they aren't allowing for free swapping.
Don't they also have alters near bosses or main events or something?
I've posted this same response (well not this exact one I'm about to take a break from finals studying to type out but you get the point) on many other forums (d2jsp and bnet forums mainly) and glad to see similar responses.
Diablo 2 had hardly any customization. I would like to say none, but it's there just it isn't effective in game. In Diablo 2 you followed guides that said "put this many points into vitality, dexterity, and strength. MAKE SURE TO PUT NONE IN FOR MANA!". Then you would choose two spells that go well together and level up the synergies to make those two spells even better. Spam those two skills for kills and then look out for the same gear everyone else is going for.
I'm afraid that this isn't customization. This is reading off a guide holding your hand on how you should/need to play a character.
Diablo 3, yes they took out stats that COULD be good customization, but they didn't work in Diablo 2 and probably would inevitably not work for Diablo 3. They let every character get all skills, yeah that cuts into customization. However, you can only use seven of those skills and can't change them without a shrine. Ladies and Gentlemen, that is golden customization right there. Choosing seven out of however many skills each class has that can all be used to be successful (as opposed to Diablo 2 where not all the skills are worth while or plain stupid to level). Then you can't forget about the passive skills that each class can have. However, in my opinion, depending on how you're looking to play there character, you can easily pick out three passive skills to float your boat quite nicely.
And then they have a new and (in my opinion) updated item system. Yes you can get a legendary item that could be the best for your character, but the fact that Blizzard is now doing random properties on legendary items allows for even more customization and making it even harder for people to have the exact same gear, or even the ideal piece they want. Thus, also adding a lot of replayability. This isn't even looking at enhancements or gems.
This, I believe, is customization. No more bullshit handholding, anyone can make their own successful build. Some builds will provide for more damage/faster killing than other builds of course (IE going all defensive on a barbarian won't get you killed, but you sure as hell aren't going to kill faster than that wizard running by you as a glass cannon).
This is of course is all my opinion and quite a lengthy response which I assume will be looked over, but I like to point out there is a lot of customization but you have to look at it correctly. Blizzard took out a lot of things that make a "traditional" RPG, but the way they went about it will make for a much better Diablo experience.
I would say go ahead and preorder it. The Collectors Edition is completely worth it. Then, save like 200$ USD, you more than likely won't need that much but better safe than sorry. Set that saved money aside for it when it comes out and then carry on with your expenses. If you start saving now, you can start little and save when you can and stop saving when you need money.
Then again, this is probably much easier said then done, but hope it works out in some way. The CE is just too much awesome to pass up and will be hella expensive in the future, I'm sure.
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The ones on Ebay will probably be hella expensive.
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No they didn't. Theres no post to be found where Bash or any other Blue said that the RMAH caused any delays.
Superflua already posted Bashiok's response when the article went out where South Korea didn't aprove it and everyone freaked out.
I don't know what translation you're reading but no where has it been stated the release of the game on a whole is delayed because of a GRB rating. Might it delay the game in Korea? I suppose no one knows, but we still have some time since the game is not finished. We're playing internal builds, the entire game, we'd know if it was. I'd know.
I mean in the end arguing about this literally does nothing. The game has been delayed, it doesn't change anything if we know the sole reason why it is delayed. Also, Blizzard would probably never tell us for sure if there was a sole reason.
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I think he meant that the RMAH Negotiating shouldn't have anything to deal with the delay?
My opinion, this was never the problem of the delay. I think Blue posts finally spoke the truth on this part. I think the fact the AH (both RM and GM) have bugs with it, the rune system isn't complete, and final touches on everything else, is why it's been delayed.
I also believe it's poor work that the rune system has so many problems with it. The rune system has been in the making since day 1. They actually had a decent system built that was just about finalized, but they trashed it and had no back up.
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Hell, the rune system has changed so much to the point they don't even know what they are doing with it at this point lol.
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To be honest, you might be SOL on getting a CE. Especially if you're looking for worldwide senders (since there's a lot of people that look for the same places)
I preordered mine at GameStop the weekend they announced the CE
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If South Korea was honestly what's keeping Blizzard from releasing the game, then I think they would just skip them in the release with this happening. However, since it's been stated that the game simply isn't where they want it to be, then I doubt this will keep it from being released.
Also, if you think about WoW, it took Blizzard A LONG time for them to release to multiple countries (pretty sure Japan being the most recent due to its gaming problems). So, I sincerely doubt they will delay release just for South Korea.
Then again, it is Blizzard and no one knows what they are thinking so all of this could be possible, or they could even be major Kim sympathizers and that is what really is delaying the game.
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I don't think Blizzard has been working with North Korea. Would be impressive if they were.
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They don't want to punish people for swapping skills though; however, they also don't want people to be able to freely swap skills like in Diablo 2.
I think the alter swap is the best they will be able to do in order to balance it. They don't really punish the player by making them go back to town to switch skills, but they aren't allowing for free swapping.
Don't they also have alters near bosses or main events or something?
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Diablo 2 had hardly any customization. I would like to say none, but it's there just it isn't effective in game. In Diablo 2 you followed guides that said "put this many points into vitality, dexterity, and strength. MAKE SURE TO PUT NONE IN FOR MANA!". Then you would choose two spells that go well together and level up the synergies to make those two spells even better. Spam those two skills for kills and then look out for the same gear everyone else is going for.
I'm afraid that this isn't customization. This is reading off a guide holding your hand on how you should/need to play a character.
Diablo 3, yes they took out stats that COULD be good customization, but they didn't work in Diablo 2 and probably would inevitably not work for Diablo 3. They let every character get all skills, yeah that cuts into customization. However, you can only use seven of those skills and can't change them without a shrine. Ladies and Gentlemen, that is golden customization right there. Choosing seven out of however many skills each class has that can all be used to be successful (as opposed to Diablo 2 where not all the skills are worth while or plain stupid to level). Then you can't forget about the passive skills that each class can have. However, in my opinion, depending on how you're looking to play there character, you can easily pick out three passive skills to float your boat quite nicely.
And then they have a new and (in my opinion) updated item system. Yes you can get a legendary item that could be the best for your character, but the fact that Blizzard is now doing random properties on legendary items allows for even more customization and making it even harder for people to have the exact same gear, or even the ideal piece they want. Thus, also adding a lot of replayability. This isn't even looking at enhancements or gems.
This, I believe, is customization. No more bullshit handholding, anyone can make their own successful build. Some builds will provide for more damage/faster killing than other builds of course (IE going all defensive on a barbarian won't get you killed, but you sure as hell aren't going to kill faster than that wizard running by you as a glass cannon).
This is of course is all my opinion and quite a lengthy response which I assume will be looked over, but I like to point out there is a lot of customization but you have to look at it correctly. Blizzard took out a lot of things that make a "traditional" RPG, but the way they went about it will make for a much better Diablo experience.
TL;DR: Diablo 3 has customization.
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Then again, this is probably much easier said then done, but hope it works out in some way. The CE is just too much awesome to pass up and will be hella expensive in the future, I'm sure.