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Quote from ol_baid»

One QoL idea: can you provide a "Reset" button? When getting from season 7 to season 8 most buttons are still activated, bc locally stored. Instead of clicking all min req. buttons to reset the sheet manually a button which does the work would be awesome. Also regarding following seasons. Maybe a bit apart from the other buttons so you can not accidentely click it mid-season (or provide a "Are you sure?" popup)

This is a GREAT idea! So great, in fact, that I implemented it right away. I've also added another feature: you can generate a link to share your progress.

Admittedly, this might not be that interesting to show off your progress; but it might prove helpful in a group when you want your others to know what's missing without going over it one by one item. The main reason why I did this though is to be able to transfer your progress from one PC to another. You can create the link (click on the share button at the bottom), and when you open the link on a different computer/browser you click on the "store" button at the bottom to add all the data into your local storage. There's a popup, of course, to avoid overwriting your progress with someone's else's.

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Slayer is easily doable. A while ago Wudijo did a GR40 with rare items only - however, he used legendary gems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-BpaaEyUp8

Power comes from different sources now. All you need are multiplicators - and there are various ways to get them: 1) Set bonuses, 2) other legendary effects, 3) legendary gems, 4) paragon, 5) augments... probably forgot some stuff. I think Crusader or WD might be the strongest classes to go for a rare only challenge because the base damage of their skills are really high. If you don't use legendary gems, no paragon, and no legendaries (and therefore obviously no sets and augments) you'd probably still be able to clear GR35-40. GR30 and the T5 rift for Slayer should be super easy. Remember that we're all doing a GR20 with ease at season start to get Haedrig's Gift, and you can do this with yellows only easily; so with a bit of optimization and pushing and fishing GR30 is no huge deal. More than Slayer probably not. I don't even think the biggest issue is GR40, but T10 in 6 minutes for Champion... I don't think that'll work. Maybe with an insane amount of fishing to get a double Conduit Fields of Misery map, but I'd consider that cheating ;-)

Quote from UncleDan2017»

I'm convinced we play 2 different games. You'd be the first person I ever met who gave a shit about eras in any way, shape or form. Eras and nonseason play in general are pretty much completely irrelevant to everyone I know who plays D3. There is a reason that nonseason play is a complete ghost-town, and it is the lack of frequent DB wipes that seasons bring. Honestly, I could see them going to 6 seasons a year, because why not? The game is so devoid of real content that 2 months is more than enough to do it all. In fact people are often bored with the game after a week or two, so there is nothing wrong with monthly seasons.

ARPG games are about getting stuff. They aren't about having stuff. Seasonal play ends up with everybody having everything and not needing anything and not having any desire to play.

Then you've met two people who give a shit about eras.

Honestly, I don't understand why people who play seasons themselves assume that everyone else has to like the same things. Not everyone likes restarts in ARPGs. I personally hate this "reset button" and the only reason why I played seasons is because of the stash. I play the opening weekend, get stash, maybe Guardian, and then quit (and if I play every now and then it's non-season). If S9+ doesn't offer something similar I won't touch seasons anymore, maybe except for a fun opening weekend. But to higlight that NS isn't "dead", let's look at rank 1000 for each leaderboard in each region:

Class	Season-NA	Season-EU	Season-KR	NS-NA	NS-EU	NS-KR
Barbarian	75	77	76	75	78	80
Crusader	76	77	78	75	80	83
DH	79	80	82	79	80	84
Monk	80	84	85	77	81	85
WD	82	85	83	81	85	85
Wizard	81	85	83	77	83	82
2p	86	91	88	85	90	90
3p	90	95	91	88	94	95
4p	97	102	102	95	100	103

As you can see, on average NS is on par with season; in many cases even higher. I'm actually surprised about the numbers in NA - in past seasons NS-NA was a wasteland, but it seems even in NA people have moved to NS. And it's going to be more: many people don't want to give up on their gully-geared characters and run 500+ rifts just to re-gain all the augments they farmed in a previous season. If a season offers new items/a new "top set" that needs to be farmed again, one might be happy with the reset; but I can tell you that I know not a single LoN Bombardment crusader from S6 who tried to get the same stuff in S7. Unless you're in a top clan and a full-time streamer/player, you wouldn't really do that.

Again, if you say NS is irrelevant to anyone you know that's your circle of friends, but it's not the entire community. In general, I think people extrapolate too much from their personal experience. I really with Blizzard releases a new infographic or some numbers at Blizzcon.

@virpyre: Very good summary. (And yes, if you read previous posts in this thread you'll realize that we all have played all previous seasons and deduced the sets from that, this is what the thread is about ;-))

I like how you elaborate on the sets for each class - just one thing to keep in mind: by the time you're pushing GR80+, you're very likely to have *all* sets for this class available. You won't really push GR80+ before paragon 500-700 usually, and at around paragon 300-500 usually you have other sets (of course depends a lot on what you play, how efficient, and if you're lucky or extremely unlucky with sets). However - for GR solo pushing the starter set doesn't matter. However, if you're really only after the stash tab, it is actually a valid consideration as you're likely to play ~10 hours or more with it.

I'm actually completely reconsidering my choice: I thought before "the last class I'm gonna play is monk because it might take the longest". However, last season we were in a group of 3 (2WD+1DH) and despite being among the first in the beginning, hitting rank 1 on day 1 a few times, we were falling behind once we reached GR50-60 because of the lack of pull/support classes. So I'm thinking to play either barb or, even better, monk, for offering this support that we lacked. For solo, I'd probably play DH or WD and try to get UE or HT as fast as possible since it's ridiculously easy and fast, from beginning to end. DH is a bit faster at farming, WD is a bit more the "brain afk" spec which I like as after 30h+ on the opening weekend your brain simply isn't active anymore...