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    posted a message on Do pardon my inquisitive nature...
    Quote from Umpa

    I added you as a friend Mephy. But you're not on my street! I'm confused.

    Ok, so I'm talking to your character right now. So thats cool. Do I have to add other friends? I feel weird asking people to play games lol.


    It's not in real time, as in I don't see you if you walk in even if we're both online at the same time. It's important to have friends (or "neighbors") because you need them for some items, for making certain things easier, for quests, and so you can build new property and the like.
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    posted a message on Do pardon my inquisitive nature...
    I don't generally like that kind of game, and the concept never really appealed to me, but, alas, I'm hooked to it. I'm not tossing money at it or anything like that, but I do keep a tab open while on my computer. Try it out, it's fun.
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    posted a message on Do pardon my inquisitive nature...
    ...but, do any of you play Sims Social on Facebook?
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    posted a message on Ultimate Random Chat Thread [URT] v4
    Does anyone listen to Saltillo? He only has one album, but it's really fucking good. Pretty versatile, in that each song is very different in its own way. Here are a few, if you're interested. Listen to the end, because the song keeps changing as it moves along.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSmVqeLsS1g

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwtCgm3M5Es

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wf0fPa7ZWY&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G9fxsjbtJY&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhaoStDCAZs&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USd8-KW_K9A
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    posted a message on Slow day on the forums
    Quote from Afro_DemonHunter

    Didn't kno u were at byu keep It clean but ya the inspirational guy had it right if no t smoking go get itself some poon

    Eventhough I don't speak Lithuanian, I completely agree with what this dude said.
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    posted a message on Slow day on the forums
    Ingest the milk of the poppy, and enter the long lost city of Paradise, dream like you've never dreamed before, feel unbridled elation, feel the unmatched internal warmth of your beating heart, entangle your mind with the exquisitness of every impulse and chill passing through your shimmering skin, entrance your eyes with images created from within, never to be matched by any human creation, and bestow upon yourself the permission to feel such grandure, such previously unimaginable heights, for you are now atop the highest mountaintop, that of your own mind.

    LOL
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    posted a message on Help I need moral support!
    Cowards die many times before their deaths,
    The valiant never taste of death but once
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    posted a message on What date did you join the site?
    2008.

    I mean, 2011?
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    posted a message on The Stigma of Drugs
    *takes Panadol and goes to bed*
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    posted a message on The Stigma of Drugs
    Good luck taking any antiviral medication, where you will be treating your HIV/herpes/whatever, then ending up with liver failure, kidney failure, and other acute symptoms.

    *waits for "BUT HEROIN DOES WORSE!" and "I WANT TO SEE YOUR PROOF!" comments"
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    posted a message on The Stigma of Drugs
    Quote from Daemaro

    There really isn't any evidence that drugs can better your life beyond possibly using marijuana to treat a handful of conditions. Really needing drugs to "better" your life implies that there is something wrong with you that you need an outside stimulant to fix. Bettering your life and seeing the world in a new way should be done without the use of stimulant in my opinion. Anything gained from drugs would be sort of fickle and less meaningful.

    I also don't believe in a functional junky, but that's because junky implies someone really hooked on drugs and that's not functional.

    I do think people should have the right to shove whatever substance they want into their veins or down their throat though.


    Have you ever taken any drug? Have you ever read how DNA amplification technology was developed? Have you ever seen a Dali painting? Have you ever experienced life altering experiences as the ones you experience while on aci...oh wait, you haven't tried anything, yet you think you can judge it.

    It doesn't imply anything. You're just trying to justify an almost universal fact which is "drugs are bad, my dear child", propagated unto every generation, which is further indoctrinated with the views of those who are in control, who happen to be the people who stand to lose the most if drugs became legal.

    Try drugs, then tell me anything gained from them would be "sort of fickle and less meaningful". Since I've started trying out different stuff (note the vast difference between "trying" and "using"), I have change drastically, and to the better, at least in my own eyes.

    Quote from OneTwoSC

    Quote from _Salvation

    Quote from OneTwoSC

    1. I don't like sneaking around. If it's illegal then you will have to do it secretly... therefore not worth the risk for me. People might say "Oh you'll be fine, they don't care"... but I'm always the guy that gets caught lol.

    Lol@doing drugs secretly.

    2. My life's good enough that I don't feel I need to alter it. I don't drink either. I do know a friend (and VERY smart one, mathematics degree etc) who has been trying weed for a few years and informed me that basically the 'dummy' persona associated with marijuana is because the people are already 'slow'.

    Lol@you thinking it's about having a bad life and wanting to alter it or make it better through the use of drugs. That is the most ill conceived naive opinion about drugs, one that is shared by tons of other people, and one that is very annoying. Your mathematician friend is sadly ... not smart. When you smoke weed simply to smoke weed, slack around and act like an idiot, you're the stereotype everyone slaps on people who smoke weed. MANY people smoke weed, go out, accomplish things, and do so even better because it makes you more creative.

    3. I like to be in control of my body 100% of the time. I don't get put to sleep at dentists, and I've never had to be put to sleep at a hospital yet... so this is also a major reason for no drugs/alcohol interest on my part.

    Lol@you thinking you're not in control of your body when you know how much, how, what, where...etc to take drugs. Again, you don't know anything about the subject because you haven't tried any of them, therefore you can't judge, and I'm not blaming you or insulting you by saying so.

    4. As for the discussion about alcohol vs drugs, I kind of have to agree. As a partaker of neither (and therefore unbiased?), my observation is that it is strange to see alcohol so widely embraced, yet even the lightest of drugs (weed?) are demonized. People just go with the flow I guess... and the flow says drugs are bad mmkay.

    Speaking of going with the flow, just remembering last year's Vancouver riots... it's stunning to see what these people did (I was away from Van during the riots, but caught it on the world news), and suddenly later when they get caught they cry and beg forgiveness. Like wtf, we live a pretty good lifestyle in Vancouver, no need to break in to bestbuy and steal $20 worth of stuff to get a high-five from your goon-buddy.

    Anyway... onetwo out.

    GhostLoad pretty much sums up my answers to you, Salvation. I'm answering you assuming you're not a troll...

    I don't know why you keep @lolling, because your answers that follow the lol are somewhat off (again as GhostLoad takes issue with almost everything you say... as do I).

    1. I don't know how you do drugs 'non secretly' as your 'lol' implies. If it's illegal, regardless of how harmless it is, then you're not in the open, free to do it at your will. Therefore you will have to do it in some form of secrecy. Please point out the failure in my logic on this one (that your lol implied).

    I don't consider anyone taking drugs in the comfort of their own home or their friends' as "hiding". Who the fuck wants to smoke weed in the middle of the street? Who the fuck wants to take E and go to the movies? Who the fuck wants to shoot up and take a walk? Who the fuck wants to take acid and go to class? Who the fuck wants to do coke in front of everyone while he can do it in the bathroom just as easily, seeing as how snorting isn't a fun thing to do whilst other people are watching, anyway? There's a difference between "doing something in secrecy" and doing something in its place, which happens to be away from prying eyes.

    2. Are we agreeing here? Did you even read my post? I said my friend was very smart and smokes weed. Then you say he's not smart and then disagree with me. I don't get what you're doing. Troll? Anyway, a lot of people that do smoke weed appear dumb and slow, that's a fact. But what I was saying is that my friend was the first time I saw anyone around me that was intelligent AND also smoked weed.

    Then you know the wrong kind of smokers. Your problem, not weeds'.

    As for the other part of #2 about a bad life = drugs to make it better... that's not what I was implying. I meant that I just don't feel the need to try or do any drugs regardless of how safe or common. I have an addictive personality so it's much better I just don't do it.

    You could've said that from the beginning and saved us all a headache.

    3. I might not have merit in talking about drugs or alcohol as you say, but I think we can all agree that there is a good chance I will not have the same control under portions of alcohol or certain drugs.

    You could've said that from the beginning and saved us all a headache.

    I guess I just find it hard to sympathize with the crowd biased towards "drugs = okay", ie Salvation (ignore marijuana when I say drugs). When you look at the downtown eastside here in Van (which I used to go through almost every day), it's pretty sad. Basically just several blocks of people wandering/standing around, some of which are completely out of their minds... thanks to you know what (and let's also not forget alcohol is at fault here too). Perfectly good people who just got into bad circumstances I guess... but ultimately drugs and alcohol are the 2 things keeping them there.

    Did I, anywhere in my posts, say that everyone should try every drug? Drugs obviously aren't for everyone, that's a die hard given. But when you take stuff like acid to have a different perspective on everything, you're not going to be like one of those people you described. You have a fundamental problem in differentiating whether the drugs are what makes a vulnerable person a junky, or is it his already present disposition towards junkiness that turned him into one, to add to his really bad sense of judgement and self control.

    It doesn't matter if YOU'RE fine doing drugs moderately and it 'enriched' your life or w/e... but it didn't do that for a lot of others, and actually caused a lot of damage. You might say that 'those are just a fringe group of extremist drug users'... but based on what I've witnessed here personally, it's not really a fringe :/

    Then you should meet that 20 or so people I know who are all successful, going places in life, and have been doing drugs for years and years. I guess, most of all, lol@you taking a small sample where you live and applying it to everything and everywhere else.


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    Quote from Daemaro

    There really isn't any evidence that drugs can better your life beyond possibly using marijuana to treat a handful of conditions. Really needing drugs to "better" your life implies that there is something wrong with you that you need an outside stimulant to fix. Bettering your life and seeing the world in a new way should be done without the use of stimulant in my opinion. Anything gained from drugs would be sort of fickle and less meaningful.


    Just to make it clear, marijuana doesn't actually help glaucoma at all, it just relieves (temporarily) some of the pressure in the skull. Why smoke weed to not solve your medical issue when you can take medication prescribed my a doctor to actually do your eyes some good?

    Why not constantly smoke weed, if you chose to?

    Quote from Daemaro

    I do think people should have the right to shove whatever substance they want into their veins or down their throat though.

    That's a libertarian point of view, and in a sense I kind of like it. Let's just go ahead and legalize everything and let the fucktards do hardcore drugs & kill themselves. Darwinism at it's finest.

    Do you have any clue how hypocritical that all sounds? God (or whatever you believe in, if anything, but I'm guessing you do believe in God) created marijuana, he created everything from which we obtain drugs..why shouldn't I have the choice to use anything existing on this planet? Who are YOU, or any form of authority, to tell me what I should and shouldn't subject my body to? Why are alcohol and tobacco legal, when combined, they are responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths every year? Why isn't tobacco illegal when its mere consumption in places where there are other (non-smoking) people is harmful? Why are they forcing me not to do and take certain things whilst hiding behind silly meaningless pseudo-concerns?


    Quote from Moetsukiru

    PS, alcohol kills more than every drug combined. look it up.

    Don't misunderstand this as rude but; provide some factual data or take your comment over to the heaping pile of other ridiculous bullshit statistics.
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    posted a message on The Stigma of Drugs
    Quote from Umpa

    Don't be naive Meph, E is very dangerous and you know it. Maybe not a specific combination of it won't kill you. But you can never be sure about the contents of that pill and it can be fatal.

    And it does deplete serotonin in the brain. E is idiotic.

    When the source is constant and you know where it's being made, what's basically in it and its effect, it's pretty safe. E in itself isn't dangerous at all if you take it like, 4 times a year. It's different here than it is in Europe and the US. My friend who just came from London tried cocaine here, and she was shocked at how shit the cocaine in London is. The market over there and in America is waaaaaay bigger, so fucking with drugs is insanely profitable. Here, the population is what, 3-4 million people? How many use, 500,000? That's a huge exaggeration, even. It depletes serotonin..anti anxiety and depression medication fucks up your serotonin system just as much, if not more. You regenerate the serotonin, don't you worry about it. Take it, and I can guarantee it, 100%, your life will change for the better. That's what drugs should be used for, rather than enjoying them, mixing up the trip with your own functional life, and fucking everything up in the process.
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    posted a message on The Stigma of Drugs
    Quote from OneTwoSC

    1. I don't like sneaking around. If it's illegal then you will have to do it secretly... therefore not worth the risk for me. People might say "Oh you'll be fine, they don't care"... but I'm always the guy that gets caught lol.

    Lol@doing drugs secretly.

    2. My life's good enough that I don't feel I need to alter it. I don't drink either. I do know a friend (and VERY smart one, mathematics degree etc) who has been trying weed for a few years and informed me that basically the 'dummy' persona associated with marijuana is because the people are already 'slow'.

    Lol@you thinking it's about having a bad life and wanting to alter it or make it better through the use of drugs. That is the most ill conceived naive opinion about drugs, one that is shared by tons of other people, and one that is very annoying. Your mathematician friend is sadly ... not smart. When you smoke weed simply to smoke weed, slack around and act like an idiot, you're the stereotype everyone slaps on people who smoke weed. MANY people smoke weed, go out, accomplish things, and do so even better because it makes you more creative.

    3. I like to be in control of my body 100% of the time. I don't get put to sleep at dentists, and I've never had to be put to sleep at a hospital yet... so this is also a major reason for no drugs/alcohol interest on my part.

    Lol@you thinking you're not in control of your body when you know how much, how, what, where...etc to take drugs. Again, you don't know anything about the subject because you haven't tried any of them, therefore you can't judge, and I'm not blaming you or insulting you by saying so.

    4. As for the discussion about alcohol vs drugs, I kind of have to agree. As a partaker of neither (and therefore unbiased?), my observation is that it is strange to see alcohol so widely embraced, yet even the lightest of drugs (weed?) are demonized. People just go with the flow I guess... and the flow says drugs are bad mmkay.

    Speaking of going with the flow, just remembering last year's Vancouver riots... it's stunning to see what these people did (I was away from Van during the riots, but caught it on the world news), and suddenly later when they get caught they cry and beg forgiveness. Like wtf, we live a pretty good lifestyle in Vancouver, no need to break in to bestbuy and steal $20 worth of stuff to get a high-five from your goon-buddy.

    Anyway... onetwo out.
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    posted a message on The Stigma of Drugs
    Quote from Azriel

    Quote from Hpnot1Q

    I lost one of my best friends to weed usage, smoking 4 blunts a day for years, dried up his brains and what not

    That's goddamn impossible, I'm sorry.

    Your friend is probably the only person to die from chronic marijuana usage. If anything, his lungs gave out due to him inhaling, but that's not really because of marijuana; if you hold enough carbon monoxide in your lungs for any amount of time, you're doing constant damage to your lungs. Your lungs don't want that.

    When I think of marijuana, I think of a really bored person / a tryhard. I don't think of a "slacker," per se, but I do think that people who just sit around and smoke marijuana all day aren't really doing themselves a favor.

    I don't think marijuana is bad (I think it's great despite being off it for 1 1/2 years), but people can use it the wrong way. Using too much of it, in my opinion, is the wrong way to use it.

    So, really, the only way "weed" (I really hate calling it that) can really harm you is if you inhale smoke. Using too much will, like any drug, cause dependance. I've never felt dependent upon it and I've probably only smoked like 5 times in my entire life, so maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones that didn't get swallowed alive by the horrors of the Mexican Weed. *buckets of sarcasm*

    Edit: And I've never tried anything outside of marijuana. I've never even been drunk. The only thing I'm really interested in trying is DMT. I hear that shit will change your life forever.


    Try acid, it will do the job.

    Quote from Don_guillotine

    Generally it's all about who's in charge: the drugs or the man doing them?

    There are plenty of functional human beings consuming various amounts of drugs at various intervals, most commonly possibly weed. Cocaine is kinda clean high-class drug with weaker physical addiction than say, heroin. I wouldn't stigmatize people doing drugs still having a control of their life. But many drugs are never safe, stuff like ecstasy can kill rarely, so ending up with a tag on your toe is a risk any drug user takes.

    But on the other hand drugs can really mess one's life and perspective of things. The people whose life is in shambles and they seek recluse in a drug habit, eventually being consumed by it, can be stigmatized in my opinion, just as any people with life control issues.


    If you do drugs, just make sure it's not the drugs doing you.

    The only way ecstasy can kill you is if you panic, don't move, and drink shitloads of water, which would just as well kill you if you weren't on E in the first place due to electrolyte imbalance.

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    Quote from Don_guillotine

    Generally it's all about who's in charge: the drugs or the man doing them?

    There are plenty of functional human beings consuming various amounts of drugs at various intervals, most commonly possibly weed. Cocaine is kinda clean high-class drug with weaker physical addiction than say, heroin. I wouldn't stigmatize people doing drugs still having a control of their life. But many drugs are never safe, stuff like ecstasy can kill rarely, so ending up with a tag on your toe is a risk any drug user takes.

    But on the other hand drugs can really mess one's life and perspective of things. The people whose life is in shambles and they seek recluse in a drug habit, eventually being consumed by it, can be stigmatized in my opinion, just as any people with life control issues.


    If you do drugs, just make sure it's not the drugs doing you.

    Great way to avoid the potential harm? Avoid the drugs. It's pretty much that simple with most thing you can choose to do or not do, with a possible end result of physical/mental harm.

    Great way to avoid potential harm? Don't drive, fly, or go on a boat, cross the road, take any sort of medication, shave with a razor blade, go to the gym...etc. Not a very liveable lifestyle, I must say.
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    posted a message on The Stigma of Drugs
    Quote from GhostLoad

    There's no need to put a stigma on anything. If you use illegal drugs (marijuana, cocaine, etc) then you're a criminal. Plain and simple.

    From that point you ask yourself; "do I want to be a criminal?" (Yes/No) and "do I want to associate with criminals?" (Yes/No)

    Easy as pie.


    Associating criminality with the use of drugs is an absurd concept, and it is one of the most hypocritical and meaningless prohibitions of all time, no doubt about it. After I'm 18, I simply don't require anyone, higher authority or whatever (eventhough I disagree with the very concept of higher authority, at least with the way it's executed nowadays), to tell me what to do and what to do, what is harmless and what is not. If I can partake in a ritual that puts a single man in charge of an entire continent, why can't I partake in smoking a natural plant, or consuming substances whose origin is natural? How many people has weed killed? LSD? Ecstasy? Mushrooms? Now how many has alcohol killed? Heart medication? Guns? They say that people kill people, not guns. Why not say "irresponsible idiots kill themselves, not drugs" ?

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    Drugs are bad. The best you can do about it is to not use them, quite simple really, if you think about it.

    Have you ever tried drugs? I sincerely and severely doubt that. "someone I know" has tried almost everything. He's not addicted to anything, nor does he ever feel the urge to consume anything. If anything, after a couple of months have passed, he might say "hey, we should do X soon, it'd be cool", then forget about it.

    He has tried weed, hash, cocaine, heroin, codeine, LSD, ketamine, and ecstasy. Some he's only tried once and never again, simply because it was just a one time thing, or he didn't like it, other he does on occasion, and other daily (hash/weed). He can honestly say that certain drugs have completely bettered his life and altered his perspective on things, and was an overall essential, integral, and amazing trip. That's pretty much what happens on acid. There's also profound joy, transcendent elation and a sense of oneness (E), feelings regarding ineffable dimensions and life altering visions (ketamine), amazingly vivid closed eye visuals and grand euphoria with deep understanding of things (codeine), and such stuff. If you at least try most stuff once, your life would be better. Acid isn't harmful at all, nor is it at all addictive, and it is something that everyone should take at least once in their life.

    I can understand people not wanting to try cocaine, or not wanting to try heroin (which my friend says is utter shit, because he likes visuals more than solely pleasure and euphoria), but things like acid, ecstasy, hash/weed, and such, should be tried, even if only once.
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