Items can adjust skills with sets and random traits as well.
There are no affixes or set bonuses currently[known] in the game that raise the cap of 4 dogs.
Ya, I haven't seen an affix or set bonus that does that.. only cooldown reduction on dogs i think. Have you seen the spider queen in use by chance? It's kinda frustrating that people know this on the other side of the world lol The tooltip only says "you may only have 1 spider queen summoned at a time". I guess it could have a timer where it goes away like the other spiders, but it seems like it could be a constant pet. I've just never seen an official word on how that rune works/
Im pretty excited to utilize a thorns build, It seems WD and Monk have some excellent builds that can revolve around it.
I'm hoping that the Spider Queen and Toad of Hugeness will take advantage of this stuff as well, Could have 4 dogs, gargantuan, fetishes, spider queen, toad of hugeness (I feel like the toad might not work though)... it'd be a mini army all stacked with thorns, could be very effective!
spider queen and toads of hugeness cannot be targeted therefor would not benefit from thorns.
but ya 4 dogs and garg with thorns a long with a follower will be a nice effective army
will be using this follower with thorns build http://us.battle.net...ollower#!0!1010 . since charm had its CD increased and duration reduced it blows now
Do you have a source for the Spider Queen not being targetable? I don't doubt the toad of hugeness working as a pet from the videos, but I haven't seen or heard anything on Spider Queen, and her tooltip makes her sound like a pet, makes it sound like she stays around till she dies - thus assuming she takes dmg from enemies.
I feel like the WD has quite a few ways to increase their mobility and debilitate their enemies. Theres alot of dmging skills that have runes that increase your speed or decrease theirs.. off the top of my head - spirit walk which can get you out of all kinds of messes, grasp of the dead can be runed to slow up to 80%, Haunt has a slowing rune i think? the fear and confuse both have opportunities to increase your speed and decrease your enemies, zombie wall can slow and soft cc. Spiders can paralize /slow..
I think WD has alot of options for getting away or staying on top of your enemies. And if your stacking move speed and cc reduction on top of this you could be pretty hard to get ahold of!
Puppet Master - Have 7 pets and/or followers at the same time.
Thats from the achievements link at news on the home page. Granted there are proli a few ways to do it i hope having more than 4 dogs is one of them. But if there is a cap at 4 then so be it and i will still enjoy playing the WD no less. I did love that interview, was very cool .
If anything that convinces me more that its 4 total dogs, It wouldn't be much of an achievement if you can just keep spawning dogs. So for the achievement you'd have 4 dogs, 1 gargantuan, 1 Spider Queen, +fetishes?, Toad of Hugeness?, Follower
Even without the fetishes and toad of hugeness counting, thats 7 others. Im on the edge if they'll count or not as they go away after a set time, maybe people in china know this by now! lol
Im pretty excited to utilize a thorns build, It seems WD and Monk have some excellent builds that can revolve around it.
I'm hoping that the Spider Queen and Toad of Hugeness will take advantage of this stuff as well, Could have 4 dogs, gargantuan, fetishes, spider queen, toad of hugeness (I feel like the toad might not work though)... it'd be a mini army all stacked with thorns, could be very effective!
Jay stated in one of the interviews that you could never have more than 4 dogs at once (Too lazy to look it up). Summoning new ones from passives/abilities would destroy the oldest/weakest one(s).
I feel like this is right, although i'm not looking it up either.
Doesn't make sense that we wouldn't have been able to spawn up to the cap before. The tooltips say nothing about caps or raising them, something like that wouldn't be a hidden mechanic.
I hope I'm wrong cuz I'm playing WD first but I am pretty sure you can only have 4 at max. I think he just meant with the passive you can get 4 dogs.
no. he clearly states "you can get more than normal". normal being 3-4. so 5+
Your making an assumption that "normal" means 3-4... In his mind, normal may be 3, and "more than normal" is 4. Though, for all we know thus far, you may be correct, but its nothing more than guesswork at this stage.
how in the world is more then normal 4 when 4 is ONLY specifically with a passive. if he was referring to 4 he would of said 4 or he would of said "you get the same amount as if you had the passive that gives 4". which really makes zero sense how you could get 4 dogs specifically without the passive
eh?? Well, How I've understood it (I think its the general assumption) is that "normal" is 3 dogs. Thats what you can get with just the summon spell. By using passives/runes you can raise it to more than "normal".. This is where it gets confusing though as we don't know what MORE is, although i'd say its pretty safe to say that more does = up to 4. We have had access to the passive to randomly spawn dogs when dealing dmg, and we've only had a max of 4 so far.
But who knows, maybe theres a way around getting more than 4! (It WOULD be sweet!)
Ya, I just couldn't resist.. pretty much clicked everything I could so far lol I don't feel bad about it either! Sort of like I ate the forbidden fruit, but now I know EVERYTHING!
I'm interested to see if the toad functions as an actual pet as well.. like enemies attack it and it can take advantage of thorns equipment (via passive)
Thanks for the great comments, I share your same views on the game, haters gonna hate I guess.
They are great comments, because he agrees with you....
What? seriously?
I didn't agree with his build completely though, you'd notice that I actually threw firebomb in mine. I didn't just say oh, you right! either, I provided my thoughts and ideas as to why I liked it more so than others. I didn't just say, o, your build sucks, no pets kthx...
As far as the mobility goes, I understand that you have to be still to throw a spell.. but that doesn't stop you from casting a large aoe dot and the locust swarm that spreads on its own (set it and forget it) then moving around and to better position. This could probably be facilitated by using atk spd items to get the casts off faster and move speed to keep out of way.
Theres also the grasp of the dead that I think is being underestimated. It lasts 8 seconds on 8 second cooldown. with grave injustice you could potentially have several up at a time. It might be difficult though with the small radius on it and trying to actively avoid the monsters though.
I'm playin around with a build focused on being up in groups of enemies faces to use toads and cloud of bats at max effectiveness. I don't have any pets and Bad Medicine seems like an obvious choice even if it is just me thats taking 20% less dmg. That IS from all sources, if i'm stacking health and armor it could really maximize the effect.
This seems like one of those skills we'll have to see in action though. For instance.. Exactly how fast do the Hungry Bats come out?? We don't know that, It could be fast enough to dish out dmg faster than the dire bats. Or they could spread out really fast while "seeking" and effectively be a circular aoe coming out from the WD. Definitely excited to see for sure!
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Ya, I haven't seen an affix or set bonus that does that.. only cooldown reduction on dogs i think. Have you seen the spider queen in use by chance? It's kinda frustrating that people know this on the other side of the world lol The tooltip only says "you may only have 1 spider queen summoned at a time". I guess it could have a timer where it goes away like the other spiders, but it seems like it could be a constant pet. I've just never seen an official word on how that rune works/
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Do you have a source for the Spider Queen not being targetable? I don't doubt the toad of hugeness working as a pet from the videos, but I haven't seen or heard anything on Spider Queen, and her tooltip makes her sound like a pet, makes it sound like she stays around till she dies - thus assuming she takes dmg from enemies.
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I think WD has alot of options for getting away or staying on top of your enemies. And if your stacking move speed and cc reduction on top of this you could be pretty hard to get ahold of!
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If anything that convinces me more that its 4 total dogs, It wouldn't be much of an achievement if you can just keep spawning dogs. So for the achievement you'd have 4 dogs, 1 gargantuan, 1 Spider Queen, +fetishes?, Toad of Hugeness?, Follower
Even without the fetishes and toad of hugeness counting, thats 7 others. Im on the edge if they'll count or not as they go away after a set time, maybe people in china know this by now! lol
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I'm hoping that the Spider Queen and Toad of Hugeness will take advantage of this stuff as well, Could have 4 dogs, gargantuan, fetishes, spider queen, toad of hugeness (I feel like the toad might not work though)... it'd be a mini army all stacked with thorns, could be very effective!
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I feel like this is right, although i'm not looking it up either.
Doesn't make sense that we wouldn't have been able to spawn up to the cap before. The tooltips say nothing about caps or raising them, something like that wouldn't be a hidden mechanic.
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eh?? Well, How I've understood it (I think its the general assumption) is that "normal" is 3 dogs. Thats what you can get with just the summon spell. By using passives/runes you can raise it to more than "normal".. This is where it gets confusing though as we don't know what MORE is, although i'd say its pretty safe to say that more does = up to 4. We have had access to the passive to randomly spawn dogs when dealing dmg, and we've only had a max of 4 so far.
But who knows, maybe theres a way around getting more than 4! (It WOULD be sweet!)
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I just started watching Afro Samurai for the first time today! Very fun to watch, now i'm way more excited for the reveal animation!
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I didn't agree with his build completely though, you'd notice that I actually threw firebomb in mine. I didn't just say oh, you right! either, I provided my thoughts and ideas as to why I liked it more so than others. I didn't just say, o, your build sucks, no pets kthx...
As far as the mobility goes, I understand that you have to be still to throw a spell.. but that doesn't stop you from casting a large aoe dot and the locust swarm that spreads on its own (set it and forget it) then moving around and to better position. This could probably be facilitated by using atk spd items to get the casts off faster and move speed to keep out of way.
Theres also the grasp of the dead that I think is being underestimated. It lasts 8 seconds on 8 second cooldown. with grave injustice you could potentially have several up at a time. It might be difficult though with the small radius on it and trying to actively avoid the monsters though.
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