Honestly, what kind of pvp would I enjoy for Diablo 3? Blood Moore. Allow up to 10 players at a time and let them ally/unally as they please. A sandboxy style where people can hang out, actually talk to one another and enjoy pvp in its most raw form.. This does not have to be the primary form of pvp, sandbox games are not for everybody. This would merely be an easy addition to add content that would make the game feel much less lonely.
I love the fact that they have randomly generated worlds in diablo1 and diablo2. It made the game interesting every time you play, something new. But i dont think they will be able to do that with Diablo3. They going to upgrade the graphics, thats a given. But when they do that and try to randomly generate levels the load time would be insane. But i may be wrong....i hope i am. Hopefully blizzard knows some little loop hole to boost up the load time.
I was also thinking if they are going to put D3 on 64 bit processors. That would definantly help for me at least. And most people are upgrading to 64 bit anyways, so if they want a new-age game then i think that they should.
I feel stupid now, i just remember character creation lol. Where u can choose your owns skills and such. That would be very interesting. Have like, a main class where you get to choose all of that class abilities, and two secondary where you can pick 1 spell tree from each. Just imagine a pally with fanta, weapon mastery, and burst of speed. INSANE!!
I think the secret level should be triggerd by something you do, but still be difficult to trigger and then accomplish. For example the newest patch for Diablo II. The "uber-trist" as it is called is a good example of what i think it should be like...But with actual drops, exp, bigger area etc....But since im guessing that Diablo 3 will be some sort of MMORPG unlike the previous two the possibilities of what could they could do seem endless....
Crap, so sorry for mucking up the first post of this thread. Somehow, a thread from 2006 found its way to the second page in the DIII chat forum, so I merged it with this one but I didn't realise it was that old. Forgive me. ~ Atrumentis
Originally posted by Elfen Lied:
Bearing in mind that this is all speculation and there is no real way of know which classes will be used, but here are a few ideas for char that people from this site have come up with
now not all these concept are likely to be used but if most of them were used it would be pretty cool. and yes I along with the other people here who help create this list do realize that some of these characters are very similar to each other, i.e Priest and cleric, and thus having both of them in the game would be utterly pointless.
Previously the following list would be comprised of chars submitted in name only, i.e just their name, i will now attempt to elaborate on as many chars as possible, I will be detailing the skills sets rather than exact skills although i will mention some where appropriate (or where i choose whatever), also bearing in mind that as i do this many classes will appear more similar than before, so once again obviously both classes would not be used in the game.
It should also be noted than some of these classes would make better Mercs than Player characters
you will also note that i have reduced the number of Submitted classes as they were really similar almost to the point were the just seemed like the same char under a different name
- choose male/female => choose class => choose faction heaven or hell, faction determines whether your char is light or dark, eg Paladin or Anti-Paladin (anti is kinda like the reverse, anti does not work for all classes some just have a good or bad version, where the good and bad versions arent complete opposites like the barb)
-somewhere between 10 - 20 or so chars, possibly keep some of the original classes and some new ones
-Generally chars in Diablo should fall into 3 categories, Warrior, Priest, and Mage, so this is how i will describe them.
Warriors Anti-Paladin
anti-Paladin is not a necromancer, Anti Paladin is exactly how it sounds an inverse Paladin, while the Paladin Heals, gives life, and gives bonus, an Anti Paladin takes lives and his Auras would have more incommon with curses of the Necromancer from D2, he does not however posess other Necromancer skills like revive and golem summoning.
Archer
The Archer or as they are more commonly known the Ranger is kinda like a male amazon. He is the epitome of skill with a bow, his skills centre around the Bow, but he also possesses other skills as well, He can track enemies exceptionally well and has an affinity for nature, i.e the abilty to summon animals to his cause similar to the druid from D2
Bard
not the hellfire version a good one, the Bard is best described as a cross between a fighter a budget paladin and a budget mage. He is a fairly capable fighter, His Songs (which would be one of his skill sets) either provide bonus to party members like th D2 Paladin or harm enemies like the D2 Necro.He also has a small range of powerful mage type spells.
Bounty Hunter
Like the Ranger he is adept at tracking/stalking, but his services come to those in need at a price, while the Ranger does so for virtue and honour the Bounty Hunter is a schemeing mercenary. He possesses several skills similar to the Assassins trap Skill set. but also several warrior type skills as well
The Drifter
The Drifter is a character from an unknown origin, and prefers to travel by shadows to stalk and murder its unsuspecting prey. The Drifter is an enigmatic character, usually cloaked in dark robes, and it roams the night reading from its worn tome. The Drifter has been rarely spotted, but its three main skill trees have been discovered.
-Trapping Skills: Unlike the Assassin, these trapping skills include the use of underground spikes, arrowed booby traps, and at higher levels, enchanted mines and sentries.
-Draining Skills: The Drifter has multiple skills that have been categorized as draining skills. These skills include passive skills that apply to the traps to cause bleeding, life steal, and/or mana steal. Other skills that do not apply to the traps are a curse-like ritual that manipulates the enemy in a degenerate way.
-Nocturnal Magic: These magic skills are most powerful when used in the night hours*, enhancing their abilities to full potential. Skills include some summoning of dark spirits, along with some dark magic skills which can heavily damage the enemy when skill points are invested.
Monk
not the hellfire version a good one more like the DND version, unarmed, martial artist. The Monk main form of attack is his fists and feet. His powerful attacks are capable of doing several types elemental damages, such as fire, lighning, cold/ice, and acid
Ninja
kinda like male assassin in several aspects. While this class may seem unlikely, if one thinks about it, it can work. He would be able to throw shuriken which would act like the Necromancer skill Teeth, and a skill similar to the assassins skill, cloak of shadows would do quite well to emulated the Ninja's stealthiness. but the Ninja would also have several skills more designed for combat, they are skilled warriors, so they would also posses several skills than would do haeavy damage, and increase their chances of scoring critical strikes.
Priests
Cavalier (Crusader Inquisitor)
A warrior truly dedicated to the erradication of evil. They epitomise honour, courage, loyalty, virtue. They are expertly trained to Hunt down and defeat classically evil beings and monsters i.e your corrupt mages, daemons and the like. Possesing mostly warrior type skills, they do have several spells at their disposal, mainly of the self Buff kind, not so much party oriented
Cleric (Adept, Prior, Zealot) a class i am truly surprise has not made it into Diablo yet. A great fighter, but he is a Priest and as such can cast a variety of spells, Turn Undead similar to the D2 paladins conversion but only works on Undead of high levels low level undead are destoryed, can summon down the wrath of their chosen deity to smite there enemies similar to Fist of the heavens only more accurate and more powerful, posseses many bless type spells that increase armor, damage, stats these work similar to enchant i.e they must be cast on their target. They also have an intense hatred for the undead and thus would have a bouns to damage when engaging them
Mage
Alchemist
Possessing the ability to animates inanimate objects. it is an Alchemist who truly makes Golems (not a Necromancer unless it is a Bone Golem), creates weapons out of the elements around him for a better insight to the abilties of an alchemist watch the Anime Full metal Alchemist, you may be surprised as to what they are capable of.
Conjurer (Summoner)
specializes in creating creatures and objects to help him. He is capable of summoning anything from flying scimitars, small demons to Balrogs, This is the charatcer that it appears many people want, he is a summoner, summoning powerful daemons and magical beasts to aid him
Elementalist
specializes in elemental based magics, and depending on how many skill sets one can have, this is what his skill sets would be divided into
-Fire fairly obivous
-Water(ice) again fairly obvious
-Lightning again fairly obvious
-Earth, conjuring up walls or rock to trap enemies or stop ranged attacks, opening holes in the ground to swallow his eneimes, for a better look into the powers of earth magic check out Avatar the last Air Bender, and the Anime Full metal Alchemist.
Warlock
not like the wow one A supernatural character whose sinister powers are inborn abilities, not spells, Such as shapeshifting into Daemons or Lycanthropes (Lycans is short for Lycanthropes). He posesses very few extreme range spells, most affect himself or are close ranged
The next few classes are better suited to being just the one mage/sorcerer rather an seperate classes, one class that can perform the skills of all of them, but i feel i should mention them anyway, as they are rather fitting as possible character builds for said mage/sorcerer
Abjurer
specializes in protection magic (kinda like auras and the armor spells)
Diviner
specializes in detection and divining magic (find/disable trap, far sight and identify)
Enchanter
specializes in manipulating the minds of sentient beings
Illusionist
specializes in creating illusions to confuse and mislead
Invoker
specializes in invocation/evocation magic (lightning/magic type spells)
definitely no Subclasses or Multiclasses in d3 just True classes
unless by subclassing it is you choose either;
-Warrior
then you choose a warrior class
-Priest
then you choose a priest class
-Mage
then you choose a mage class
While many of these classes are taken from Dungeons and Dragons, that doesnt stop them from being awesome classes, esp some of the priest classes, for a game about heaven/hell, there seems to be a lacking of religious characters, i.e priests and more specifically clerics. Also the mage classes seem a little lacking. only two Necromancer and sorcerer/ess hence the reason i thought of some more, some may obviously appear better than others but if used effectively they can be just as good.
Ide like to see a more dark themed character classes added. I always like the theme of the necro, but that was about it. The rest were all "just cause" about everything. A vampire or demon themed character would be interesting. Anyone have any other ideas about good character classes?
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Originally posted by Elfen Lied:
Bearing in mind that this is all speculation and there is no real way of know which classes will be used, but here are a few ideas for char that people from this site have come up with
now not all these concept are likely to be used but if most of them were used it would be pretty cool. and yes I along with the other people here who help create this list do realize that some of these characters are very similar to each other, i.e Priest and cleric, and thus having both of them in the game would be utterly pointless.
Previously the following list would be comprised of chars submitted in name only, i.e just their name, i will now attempt to elaborate on as many chars as possible, I will be detailing the skills sets rather than exact skills although i will mention some where appropriate (or where i choose whatever), also bearing in mind that as i do this many classes will appear more similar than before, so once again obviously both classes would not be used in the game.
It should also be noted than some of these classes would make better Mercs than Player characters
you will also note that i have reduced the number of Submitted classes as they were really similar almost to the point were the just seemed like the same char under a different name
- choose male/female => choose class => choose faction heaven or hell, faction determines whether your char is light or dark, eg Paladin or Anti-Paladin (anti is kinda like the reverse, anti does not work for all classes some just have a good or bad version, where the good and bad versions arent complete opposites like the barb)
-somewhere between 10 - 20 or so chars, possibly keep some of the original classes and some new ones
-Generally chars in Diablo should fall into 3 categories, Warrior, Priest, and Mage, so this is how i will describe them.
Warriors
Anti-Paladin
anti-Paladin is not a necromancer, Anti Paladin is exactly how it sounds an inverse Paladin, while the Paladin Heals, gives life, and gives bonus, an Anti Paladin takes lives and his Auras would have more incommon with curses of the Necromancer from D2, he does not however posess other Necromancer skills like revive and golem summoning.
Archer
The Archer or as they are more commonly known the Ranger is kinda like a male amazon. He is the epitome of skill with a bow, his skills centre around the Bow, but he also possesses other skills as well, He can track enemies exceptionally well and has an affinity for nature, i.e the abilty to summon animals to his cause similar to the druid from D2
Bard
not the hellfire version a good one, the Bard is best described as a cross between a fighter a budget paladin and a budget mage. He is a fairly capable fighter, His Songs (which would be one of his skill sets) either provide bonus to party members like th D2 Paladin or harm enemies like the D2 Necro.He also has a small range of powerful mage type spells.
Bounty Hunter
Like the Ranger he is adept at tracking/stalking, but his services come to those in need at a price, while the Ranger does so for virtue and honour the Bounty Hunter is a schemeing mercenary. He possesses several skills similar to the Assassins trap Skill set. but also several warrior type skills as well
The Drifter
The Drifter is a character from an unknown origin, and prefers to travel by shadows to stalk and murder its unsuspecting prey. The Drifter is an enigmatic character, usually cloaked in dark robes, and it roams the night reading from its worn tome. The Drifter has been rarely spotted, but its three main skill trees have been discovered.
-Trapping Skills: Unlike the Assassin, these trapping skills include the use of underground spikes, arrowed booby traps, and at higher levels, enchanted mines and sentries.
-Draining Skills: The Drifter has multiple skills that have been categorized as draining skills. These skills include passive skills that apply to the traps to cause bleeding, life steal, and/or mana steal. Other skills that do not apply to the traps are a curse-like ritual that manipulates the enemy in a degenerate way.
-Nocturnal Magic: These magic skills are most powerful when used in the night hours*, enhancing their abilities to full potential. Skills include some summoning of dark spirits, along with some dark magic skills which can heavily damage the enemy when skill points are invested.
Monk
not the hellfire version a good one more like the DND version, unarmed, martial artist. The Monk main form of attack is his fists and feet. His powerful attacks are capable of doing several types elemental damages, such as fire, lighning, cold/ice, and acid
Ninja
kinda like male assassin in several aspects. While this class may seem unlikely, if one thinks about it, it can work. He would be able to throw shuriken which would act like the Necromancer skill Teeth, and a skill similar to the assassins skill, cloak of shadows would do quite well to emulated the Ninja's stealthiness. but the Ninja would also have several skills more designed for combat, they are skilled warriors, so they would also posses several skills than would do haeavy damage, and increase their chances of scoring critical strikes.
Priests
Cavalier (Crusader Inquisitor)
A warrior truly dedicated to the erradication of evil. They epitomise honour, courage, loyalty, virtue. They are expertly trained to Hunt down and defeat classically evil beings and monsters i.e your corrupt mages, daemons and the like. Possesing mostly warrior type skills, they do have several spells at their disposal, mainly of the self Buff kind, not so much party oriented
Cleric (Adept, Prior, Zealot)
a class i am truly surprise has not made it into Diablo yet. A great fighter, but he is a Priest and as such can cast a variety of spells, Turn Undead similar to the D2 paladins conversion but only works on Undead of high levels low level undead are destoryed, can summon down the wrath of their chosen deity to smite there enemies similar to Fist of the heavens only more accurate and more powerful, posseses many bless type spells that increase armor, damage, stats these work similar to enchant i.e they must be cast on their target. They also have an intense hatred for the undead and thus would have a bouns to damage when engaging them
Mage
Alchemist
Possessing the ability to animates inanimate objects. it is an Alchemist who truly makes Golems (not a Necromancer unless it is a Bone Golem), creates weapons out of the elements around him for a better insight to the abilties of an alchemist watch the Anime Full metal Alchemist, you may be surprised as to what they are capable of.
Conjurer (Summoner)
specializes in creating creatures and objects to help him. He is capable of summoning anything from flying scimitars, small demons to Balrogs, This is the charatcer that it appears many people want, he is a summoner, summoning powerful daemons and magical beasts to aid him
Elementalist
specializes in elemental based magics, and depending on how many skill sets one can have, this is what his skill sets would be divided into
-Fire fairly obivous
-Water(ice) again fairly obvious
-Lightning again fairly obvious
-Earth, conjuring up walls or rock to trap enemies or stop ranged attacks, opening holes in the ground to swallow his eneimes, for a better look into the powers of earth magic check out Avatar the last Air Bender, and the Anime Full metal Alchemist.
Warlock
not like the wow one A supernatural character whose sinister powers are inborn abilities, not spells, Such as shapeshifting into Daemons or Lycanthropes (Lycans is short for Lycanthropes). He posesses very few extreme range spells, most affect himself or are close ranged
The next few classes are better suited to being just the one mage/sorcerer rather an seperate classes, one class that can perform the skills of all of them, but i feel i should mention them anyway, as they are rather fitting as possible character builds for said mage/sorcerer
Abjurer
specializes in protection magic (kinda like auras and the armor spells)
Diviner
specializes in detection and divining magic (find/disable trap, far sight and identify)
Enchanter
specializes in manipulating the minds of sentient beings
Illusionist
specializes in creating illusions to confuse and mislead
Invoker
specializes in invocation/evocation magic (lightning/magic type spells)
definitely no Subclasses or Multiclasses in d3 just True classes
unless by subclassing it is you choose either;
-Warrior
then you choose a warrior class
-Priest
then you choose a priest class
-Mage
then you choose a mage class
While many of these classes are taken from Dungeons and Dragons, that doesnt stop them from being awesome classes, esp some of the priest classes, for a game about heaven/hell, there seems to be a lacking of religious characters, i.e priests and more specifically clerics. Also the mage classes seem a little lacking. only two Necromancer and sorcerer/ess hence the reason i thought of some more, some may obviously appear better than others but if used effectively they can be just as good.
for other changes or suggestions relating to other areas of D3 go here
http://www.diablo3.com/forums/showth...7228#post37228
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Ceric's Post:
Ide like to see a more dark themed character classes added. I always like the theme of the necro, but that was about it. The rest were all "just cause" about everything. A vampire or demon themed character would be interesting. Anyone have any other ideas about good character classes?
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