Hi everyone! i was looking through my library for something to play and i remembered that a few years back, blizzard gave out the base D3 game to anyone in wow who agreed to pay for a year (it was with the pandaria beta i believe.) I of course, never played it so i do not have the expansion. Is it worth playing the game without RoS or should i scrap together some cash and pick it up before I get heavily involved with D3?
How is it that people can even ask this? Is any game with an expansion worth playing without it? No. The answer is always no.
back in d2 times we loved to play both, classic and LoD. so his question is legit for me.
So you are saying classic was as good as LOD even though if you played pure classic you didn't have extra classes, no runewords, and if I remember right no charms. No, LOD being installed made the entire game 100% better, irregardless of if you actually went into the LOD specific zones so the question is absolutely not legit. People that played pure classic withotu LOD installed were doing nothing but falling further and further behind those that were playing LOD. You can disagree all you want, but your wrong.
You know people can enjoy different stuff? There a small chance that not everyone is the same as you. A lot of people don't care if they "fall behind" they just play the game the way they prefer. I sometimes played D2 classic as well. I never even liked the idea of runewords. I also didn't think the new classes were that special. I prefered LOD, sure, but sometimes a good old classic run through the game was fun.
Look, do you see that? That's called an opinion.
You know what an opinion most closely resembles? An asshole. Because everyone has them, and most of them stink.
The biggest mistake D3 made was not listening to their community. Not communicating with us on their forums. Not reading those forums for ideas, of which there are tons. As to removing people from the story, did you play D2 for the story from day 1 until you quit? No. You played a few times for the story, then you farmed bosses forever for drops. The story doesn't mean shit after you have played through the game a few times so taking people out of the story is a non-issue.
All they have done from day 1 was listen to their community, which there in lies the biggest problem of all.
Thank you for proving you have no idea what you're talking about.
Hi everyone! i was looking through my library for something to play and i remembered that a few years back, blizzard gave out the base D3 game to anyone in wow who agreed to pay for a year (it was with the pandaria beta i believe.) I of course, never played it so i do not have the expansion. Is it worth playing the game without RoS or should i scrap together some cash and pick it up before I get heavily involved with D3?
How is it that people can even ask this? Is any game with an expansion worth playing without it? No. The answer is always no.
back in d2 times we loved to play both, classic and LoD. so his question is legit for me.
So you are saying classic was as good as LOD even though if you played pure classic you didn't have extra classes, no runewords, and if I remember right no charms. No, LOD being installed made the entire game 100% better, irregardless of if you actually went into the LOD specific zones so the question is absolutely not legit. People that played pure classic withotu LOD installed were doing nothing but falling further and further behind those that were playing LOD. You can disagree all you want, but your wrong.
I swear to you, if greaters were never in the game, and instead the leaderboard was based on boss clears on the highest level possible etc... more people would love this game. Adventure mode just destroyed it.
Uh, no, you're high. If there was no adventure mode, rifts, or grifts, this game would be dead.
No need to harass someone.
If you just use some foresight, or even hindsight, and look at the ARPG greats, non of them had anything like adventure mode, and they slaughtered the competition. D3 is going to get destroyed by the likes of Grim Dawn and is being beaten by PoE.
You can have endless scaling content without removing players from the content my fellow friend. Rifts and Greater rifts are not needed. You could have Act Runs or hidden dungeons within acts that serve as rifts and greaters, but are still a part of the story. And again like I said, have an infinite scaling difficulty within.
The biggest mistake D3 made was taking players away from the story. They did this with the AH from the very beginning and now are doing the same thing with Adventure Mode. Again, you can have endless scaling progression without Adventure Mode. No reason to remove people from the story.
PoE, Grim Dawn, and marvel Heroes all slaughter D3 because of how much they have to do. D3 has..... bounties and rifts. Thats it. These other games have much much more to keep people entertained.
And read wtf you just said. "Rifts and Greater rifts are not needed. You could have Act Runs or hidden dungeons within acts that serve as rifts and greaters, but are still a part of the story. " Rifts and greater rifts aren't needed, you just have rifts and greater rifts in the story. So, uh..... They are needed then now aren't they? LMAO.
The biggest mistake D3 made was not listening to their community. Not communicating with us on their forums. Not reading those forums for ideas, of which there are tons. As to removing people from the story, did you play D2 for the story from day 1 until you quit? No. You played a few times for the story, then you farmed bosses forever for drops. The story doesn't mean shit after you have played through the game a few times so taking people out of the story is a non-issue.
I swear to you, if greaters were never in the game, and instead the leaderboard was based on boss clears on the highest level possible etc... more people would love this game. Adventure mode just destroyed it.
Uh, no, you're high. If there was no adventure mode, rifts, or grifts, this game would be dead.
Player retention is shit because the game is monotonous, not because of lack of rewards.
They need some new play zones, repeatable play zones that offer good loot, not set dungeon bullshit you do once and forget forever.
Look at marvel heroes. Specifically the raids and the xdef/holosim. These are both things that could transfer into D3 easily if their lazy ass devs would actually do something worth doing.
Hi everyone! i was looking through my library for something to play and i remembered that a few years back, blizzard gave out the base D3 game to anyone in wow who agreed to pay for a year (it was with the pandaria beta i believe.) I of course, never played it so i do not have the expansion. Is it worth playing the game without RoS or should i scrap together some cash and pick it up before I get heavily involved with D3?
How is it that people can even ask this? Is any game with an expansion worth playing without it? No. The answer is always no.
Second, I'd like to suggest and discuss the removal of paragon requirement for torment difficulties.
Begin.
I'd like to discus them adding paragon level requirements to EVERY single torment difficulty in the game so leeching scumbags stop ruining public games and so people stop crying for power levels as if leveling in this game is hard.
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PoE, Grim Dawn, and marvel Heroes all slaughter D3 because of how much they have to do. D3 has..... bounties and rifts. Thats it. These other games have much much more to keep people entertained.
And read wtf you just said. "Rifts and Greater rifts are not needed. You could have Act Runs or hidden dungeons within acts that serve as rifts and greaters, but are still a part of the story. " Rifts and greater rifts aren't needed, you just have rifts and greater rifts in the story. So, uh..... They are needed then now aren't they? LMAO.
The biggest mistake D3 made was not listening to their community. Not communicating with us on their forums. Not reading those forums for ideas, of which there are tons. As to removing people from the story, did you play D2 for the story from day 1 until you quit? No. You played a few times for the story, then you farmed bosses forever for drops. The story doesn't mean shit after you have played through the game a few times so taking people out of the story is a non-issue.
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Uh, no, you're high. If there was no adventure mode, rifts, or grifts, this game would be dead.
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Player retention is shit because the game is monotonous, not because of lack of rewards.
They need some new play zones, repeatable play zones that offer good loot, not set dungeon bullshit you do once and forget forever.
Look at marvel heroes. Specifically the raids and the xdef/holosim. These are both things that could transfer into D3 easily if their lazy ass devs would actually do something worth doing.
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