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Greetings,

Our D3CL community, http://www.d3cl.com, is looking for Diablo 3 players, especially those waiting for PvP mod. Most of us are PvP lovers, who have duelled on Diablo 1, Diablo 2 (including Euro-PvP Admins), WoW and a lot of other games and we want to continue our e-sport tradition on Diablo 3! Check out our website, read our manifesto ( http://www.d3cl.com/en/aboutus ), register your Clan, visit our forum (with various language sections) and get ready for forthcoming PvP !
It's never to early to talk about PvP and start preparations!

Quote from VladDracul

Ha, your post is pretty funny. So you are trying to tell me that Europeans created the dueling rules and sets that I myself helped shape and form on East? 1.09 dueling was plagued with the most obscene hacks that having a ladder was pointless. Now are you also trying to say Dueling has not evolved since 1.09? Obviously you Europeans are to poor for this item called Enigma which evolved dueling to the next level, now don't get me wrong classic style dueling has tons of skill and potential but when you add the fact anyone can teleport that opens up another level of depth. Now on to JSP, maybe in Europe you guys didn't use JSP, and that is fine considering it is full of prepubescent children, however on East is was the premier dueling section, now to try and compare whether you guys were better at PvP then us well we will never know, you never came over to try and prove yourself and we could give a damn to prove it some "randoms" in our eyes. Again, nothing bad to say here beside facts. Every realm feels they are the best and they each have different avenues to prove it, I am sure every realms best duelers are long gone at this point so this discussion is pointless.

Nah I was just trying to say that Europeans, especially Poles, pretty much had training in all d2 pvp "styles" while you Americans just had teleport all the way since enigma. Its not hard to visit d2pk and see what I'm talking about.
We werent obviously duelling with hacked items (like oculus rings and buriarmors), and we werent so infected with so many hacks on EU. 1.09 on EU has been really brilliant. So I guess u missed alot of what we call real pvp.
Im not trying to compare who was better, without stable connection on US East/West its just pointless for EU player and conversely.
If D3 gives us global tours under same conditions... we can only hope.
I am sure best realms duelers are still playing in EU.

Quote from fragdieb

P.S. And I still think TDM wont be considered to invest time in.

Just tu cut this drama, battle net channel Sorceress tower europe was the first duelling community not just in Europe but worldwide, and people (mostly swedes, norwegians, dutchs etc) from that channel pretty much later created first official league of pvpeurope, then postreality, then euro-pvp, while germans at the same time had their dedicated aow's and duellligas. Polish guys had their huge PCL, which is widely played even today.
Euro-pvp (aligned) is to this day most played ruleset on private realms in EU region atleast, providing specific d2 pvp experience which mutated from the most famous days of 1.09 duelling in Europe, thats it.
Fragdied is just right with his claim that jsp wasnt even worth mentioning pre 1.10.
In fact even 1.10+ d2jsp is useless due to incompetent young men who are unable to make decent rules because of their inexperience in former 1.09 duelling.

TDM is a very poor mod, has been proven and justified.

Stop arguing fools. TDM = crap.

Everyone who played d2 in a competitive environment (ladders and leagues) knows that.
Yes I know, in this forum there are no people who played d2 competitively with balanced rule sets. 99 % of this forum's member are freakin pvm heroes who maybe played some open, bad mannered pvp. I've not met one single person here who played competitivle pvp in d2. That's soooooooooooo poor diablofans.com.

You can't even discuss about it. STOP IT. Conax is correct in all of his points, also those about wow.

Since noone of you here realised it right now:
Under the current circumstances, Diablo 3 non casual PVP is utterly dead, even before the game got released.
Not even the most dedicated people will put work into setting up a competitive environment to play RET*RDED TEAM DEATH MATCH. This is for sure!!!! I know that since I am in regular contact with those people who ran those leagues in the past (1.08 - 1.11).


I seriously am askin myself what blizzard did this past 6 years. Pokin fingers up their nose. The pvp development team must be a bunch of damn newbs with no experience about competitive environments and setups.


If they don't change this whole pvp issue, we have 3 possibilities:

- play future games for competitive pvp
- go back to wow arena, like I did, when I read the recent news
- play d3 for pve fun and real life moneyz if it's going to be released in any near future


Over and out, rant about me, I really don't care.