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    posted a message on Crit chance cap

    Excuse me, but my above statement is true. Even prior to augments in 2.4, dex was mathematically inferior to 10cc/100chd/20 element dmg on neck. Unless you have like 500 paragon this is true, where have you been? With upwards of 20,000+ dex being possible this season, 1000 dex is like a drop of water in a pond. Please refrain from commenting negatively when YOU are unsure.

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    posted a message on Crit chance cap

    I would consider 100chd/20% element/20% AD before dex, on that note, as long as you aren't breaking the cap with CC, CC will be more damage then dex.

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    posted a message on TryHard: Marauder's Frost Cluster Build - Greater Rift 79+ Guide ( Video )

    Yeah, with the popular updated Dawn, 36.5% cdr will get you 100% vengeance uptime! Builds with Yangs recurve need 35% ias in gear/para to hit the 3.0 aps breakpoint. For RCR, both Yangs and Manticore bring a boatload for their respective skills, more RCRis generally not needed though I've heard some ppl use cinder coat for UE6 builds.


    CC, CHD, and area damage in my mind are better then RCR.

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    posted a message on TryHard: Marauder's Frost Cluster Build - Greater Rift 79+ Guide ( Video )

    K so 7 pets x9 =63% damage reduction, leaving 37% Visage of gunes is 50% DR of that remaining dmg which is 18.5% extra DR 63+18.5 = 81.5


    zoeys bonus is additive DR per pet, Garwolf adds two wolfs which makes 9x9=81

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    posted a message on Marauder6 equip DML or rucksack with multishot?

    Ok... I was having trouble understanding your explination of how Zei's worked so I asked a question regarding bott to give me an idea of how strong you believe zei's is.


    2nd, I'm aware that avg stacks of PE will be lower then 30 throughout a rift. Why I will still likely use PE in a high GR push setting is because it would further amplify MS's strength in high density scenarios. Which is what your team will be fishing for anyways.


    When a GG spires map keeps the mob cluster growing the deeper you go, PE is doing phenomenal work moving the progress bar.

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    posted a message on Marauder6 equip DML or rucksack with multishot?

    I'm having a hard time understanding how Zei's works with how you explained it so let me ask you a question.


    If you were to compare a lvl90 Bane of the Trapped (42%) multiplier, and a lvl90 Zeis (42.5%) assuming you and all 5 sentries are casting 50+ yds. Are you saying that Zei's gives more then .5% advantage over trapped?

    Follow up question, do you think zei's continues to get higher @60, 70, 80 yards?

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    posted a message on Marauder6 equip DML or rucksack with multishot?

    Ok I see what you are saying, that a lvl80 zei's is better then a lvl75, but pain enhancer doesn't get much better lvl25 to 80. Gotcha


    I'm sure I could figure it out, at how many stacks of pain enhancer beats say a lvl90 Zeis (42.5%) my guess would be like 50%ias, or 16-17 targets bleeding.

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    posted a message on Marauder6 equip DML or rucksack with multishot?

    "While it may be limited to 50 yards, damage multiplier can be upgraded infinitely."


    Are you saying that Zei's will do more damage at 70yds vs 50yds? To my knowledge zei's bonus is the same at 50 yds or 100yds.


    I would think that if you and all 5 sentries are 50+ yrds you would get the listed 50yd multiplier. If I am wrong here something could be said for keeping your sentries incredibly far off screen.


    Either way Zei's would be a more grounded and static option while Pain Enhancer would shine in density. Think GG caverns of arenea(spelling >. <), or Spire tile sets.

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    posted a message on Marauder6 equip DML or rucksack with multishot?

    I'm aware that I need 30 targets within range bleeding to get the full benifit of PE. THE bleed is negligable dmg as M6 doesn't boost it, physical build or not.


    To my knowledge, Zei's max bonus is 50+ yards away which CA can reach and sentries can fire from off screen. Was your point that CA is often utilizing the 50+ yrd dmg bonus?

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    posted a message on Marauder6 equip DML or rucksack with multishot?
    Quote from Alkago-next

    Aptis

    Apart from anything else we had discussed,

    Why not Zei's Stone?!

    Why Pain Enhancer?


    Zei's Stone is the number one dps gem for Marauder builds because of the synergy with sentries..



    In the situation I would like to apply this build, high GR experience runs or pushes if the dmg ends up being worthy. Ideally a globe barb present. In the 75 solo grs I did I could face tank quite comfortably.


    This leads me to reason, with ignore pain in group, I could comfortably plant near density to make use of 30 stacks of pain enhancer (90% ias) in GR85s.


    Using Endless walk, Zei's may make me consider repositioning and break dmg. Or I stay still and mobs move closer to me reducing Zei's bonus.


    Another reason would be with MS my dmg makes up roughly 45% and sentries make up 55%. CA is something like 33/66%. So sentry dmg and position I think gets a bit less benifit from Zeis.


    Pain enhancers IAS can nearly double your damage when resource can support it. I would certainly use Zei's in solo though. Zei's is stupid strong and could be used for groups too, but I think I'll prefer the IAS and zodiac synergy from PE.

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    posted a message on Marauder6 equip DML or rucksack with multishot?
    Quote from ch1zrago-next

    Quick question on this topic:

    How would 100% sentry dmg from bombard compare to double shot from DML?

    damage equation wise?

    I dont think that it's simple as double attack vs double damage, but if that is the point, then one would have to weight only initial 40% of life untill DML kicks in, which would lead to another comparison of CA on manticore and MS on YR, and on and on.

    So, just equation wise, where does sentry dmg fit in?





    My math isn't eligant, so I made two profiles that can show you.


    www.d3planner.com/289044778 CA Maelstrom
    www.d3planner.com/653150511 MS Arsenal

    Both are maxed out the best I know, it should compare HfA/FnR vs EW/zodiac and MS and CA's support legendaries.


    To answer your question Ch1zra, click on the Skills/Effects tab at the top of the screen. Underneath CA and MS you can click on sentry rocket dmg or sentry damage to illustrate that sentry bonus damage is a separate multiplier.


    MS build will have a 30% sentry multiplier and the CA build will have 130%, the kicker is while dynamic, its only effect is on M4 multiplier, not M6.


    You'll also see that MS's total damage per cast at 17.8billion, and CA's total per cast at 47.2billion. For MS it does the math for you at 5.0 aps or 89B dps. CA is 47.2 x 2.42aps = 114.2B dps.


    Now here is the K.O. kicker, that senario is single target dps. AND DML's orange text is not represented in that conclusion.


    In reality(doing X2 dmg 60% of the time), you could expect 142.4 billion single target dps with MS arsenal. MS will do substancially more damage when its able to hit 30, 50, or 100+ additional targets. Prior to doing this I thought that CA would surely do more dmg in low target situations, evidently my napkin math was low balled. (For the sheep; CA - shooting stars only hits 136.2 billion single target dps.)


    The reason for this is because all of MS's support legendaries directly effect M4 and M6, while the cookie cutter CA uses BRS, while incredibly strong doesn't effect M6 an x31 multiplier.


    Additionally, zodiac brings 100% wolf uptime, 50 hatred every 5-7 seconds, and sentries are more readily available. Yangs recurve also has 50 RCR, while manticore is specifically CA RCR. This makes spirit spenders and sentry cost twice as cheap.


    The cons, MS hatred per second is 56.25, while CA is only 43.56. Considering both builds have seethe, bat, and a Templar, they gain 17hps. Leaving them at 39.25 and 26.56. Factor in bat activation 8.33hps for MS, and 2.5hps for CA.


    MS requires 30.92 hatred cost per second

    CA requires 24.06 hps


    Both builds should be adequately topped in resource with 1 globe support in your party.

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    posted a message on best grp setup for DH's (GR's)

    I think in a sense he's asking what the 4player meta is, and where does DH fit.


    In my opinion, alot of dps builds are capable of 90+ but the fotm is probably DMO twister wizard. Dart doc, and S6 DH bring elite and RG single target.


    But if history tells us anything, where were all those leet hota barbs at the end of the season 4?


    For support, I think globe barbs and monks bring more defensive options while WD and Sader bring more offense.

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    posted a message on TryHard: Marauder's Frost Cluster Build - Greater Rift 79+ Guide ( Video )

    I like the video and build mate, kudos I am of the opinion that maelstrom is better as well. Ppl say that shooting stars is better cuz it's physical, pets and vengeance rockets/guns are too. The latter two making up 15-25% of our damage in single target, lowering the more mobs you add in. So to me a 40% physical dmg bonus to two things that don't do alot of dmg is meh.


    I would note two things though, Garwolf + zoeys is 81% DR and zoeys + gunes is 81.5%. I prefer garwolf, as it's always there. Absently forgetting to press vengeance while a blunder could get a HC player like me killed.

    Also, ferrets give 10% movement, can't play atm so I'm not sure if it's a part of the 25% cap or not, if it is you only need 15% from paragon.

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    posted a message on Accursed multishot and discipline question

    83 to 86 discipline ends up being a 3.6% increase, 59 to 62 would be just over 5% increase. This might give you a better idea.

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    posted a message on The "Help me Re-roll" Thread (Demon Hunter)

    For all the yang reroll questions regarding UE6, disc is not as powerful as ppl may think it is. It adds to a multiplier. For example:


    Going from 83disc (1660% UE6 bonus) to 86 disc (1720%) is an overall increase of 3.6%


    So in the case of a yangs having stats like:


    6% dmg bonus

    900dex

    24 area dmg


    9 disc


    6 to 10% dmg bonus would be slightly better then 9 to 12 disc


    If the yangs were like this:


    7% dmg bonus

    900 dex

    24 area dmg


    9 disc


    9 to 12 disc would be more benifitial then rolling the 7% dmg bonus up to 10.

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