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    posted a message on QuinFans ???

    Such wow, much drama :-)


    I get it. I do. Drahque is trying hard for last few seasons; he's investing a lot of time in what he does and it is not represented or paying out (if you wish) as he anticipated. And now most probably feels like he's been 'stolen' of something. Well my friend, life is sometimes like this. Sometimes you don't get rewarded for your hard efforts no matter how hard you worked. So i wouldn't called this jealousy. But what you do, you earn respect in the community from your peers for your hard work.


    With this kind of behavior in this post (drama) you are doing yourself more harm than anything else.


    Even though it's been stressed out that Quin has attached gameplay video for majority of "his" builds and IMO this is the sole difference why would any prefer to use that ones instead of ones which don't have i really don't see the problem. What is next, claiming copyright on builds? :facepalmsmile:


    I remember the days when we wished to have at least another choice for pants (ALL classes used Inna's) yet alone different builds for different classes with such variety....so all this drama is not that bad, it's only a human nature.

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    posted a message on New player completely overwhelmed

    I would say that becoming a member of this community (being a forum member) is excellent way to start.

    Here you can find all kind of guides, builds, min/max information and so on so be sure to check this site from time to time;

    if nothing else it's nice to have 'blue post tracker' (which are official Blizzard posts) to find out what are the latest news from Blizzard themselves. (same functionality is present on official forums but that forum is full of toxic, offensive and vulgar behavior)


    That being said, being so new at the game i would advise you to play through campaign with ever class you prefer/like. That way you will have the opportunity to see visuals of all skills/abilities and will learn by yourself a thing or two about synergy of those skills with some particular items and so on. Bear in mind that campaign mode is completely different to adventure mode from both combination of skills and damage output perspective. Ultimately you'll be able to play HOW YOU WANT and that's the whole point...ok there is a grind factor too :-) There are some items (like legendary gems) which are essential in adventure mode and not present in campaign.


    Don't worry too much of this, kill Diablo on Torment difficulties once or twice and you'll know 75% of everything you need to know. Rest of 25% you can find here among many different topics and sections (like build section).

    When you do so, feel free to ask some specific questions after you get your lvl 70 and kill Diablo :-)

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    posted a message on 1.3x - Max.

    I agree, but just for FYI...in case you missed it ^^

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    posted a message on 1.3x - Max.
    Quote from rebjorngo-next

    Quote from Okakerigo-next

    The days of getting 15x group xp is gone with the loss of XP leeches. The current number is ~3x or so, which, imo, is a good spot. Diablo 3 is NOT a single-player game with multiplayer capabilities, its a multiplayer game with single-player capablities. Having SOME disparity between the solo player and the group player is fine.


    Blizzard never said that this is "primarily a multiplayer game" or anything like that. - I've seen many say stuff like that. They absolutely never claimed that it was anything of the sort. There's a popular notion that it is so, but it is not. It was never advertised as such. - Sure, D3 has multiplayer capabilities if you will, however D3 is also the latest child of a strong tradition - the Diablo series have a tradition for being very much a solo player friendly experience. I think it's freaking great that there's a good multiplayer effort involved, don't get me wrong, but solo play always was and still is a very important part of the D3 experience. Anyone saying it is not so are making that up, pulling arguments out of thin air.
    I agree that D3 solo play is and has been getting less love than multiplayer and i don't like it at all. Blizzard never said that D3 "is primariliy a multiplayer game" but never the less they did stress out that multiplayer is somewhat more important to devs
    (this is amongst many of similar blue posts on that topic; post #10):

    http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/14821863312
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    posted a message on You gotta watch your steps nowadays when posting something online or even here at Diablofans. It's nothing like it was.
    Quote from Shapookyago-next

    damn, you guys need to learn about jokes. life is more fun with them...

    ...

    the internet is the same as before. your memory is just selective. All our memories are selective. That's how our brains work.

    I didn't get the joke, sorry :-)
    Well, saying internet is the same as before (even if talking ONLY about behavior of users) is not true. You have to acknowledge that based on pure logic, right?
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    posted a message on You gotta watch your steps nowadays when posting something online or even here at Diablofans. It's nothing like it was.
    Quote from holt8137go-next

    The internet has been toxic and a terrible place for well over a decade. This is nothing new. But kudos to you for having some Utopian memories. Wish I could say the same.


    **edit: I will grant to OP that it's now FAR worse than it was (I chalk that up to it was mostly adults in the beginning). But, in my experience, it was never: "Hello good Sirs, I respectfully decline to agree with your opinion, for you are a gentleman and a scholar".

    Internet exist a bit more than a decade...i was reffering to 'old times', think about early 90-ies, and i feel OP refered to same.
    I agree it was never super polite, but people didn't take it 'personal' so fast as it is now. I also agree that people get offended too easily but seeing repetitive posts exchange between two users with nothing more than 'personal' attacks with no relation to actul topic is often. Not calling names or pointing finger to anyone.
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    posted a message on Paragon 10000!
    Quote from Shapookyago-next

    Fast learners will adapt fast but once they did adapt, they are not P800 anymore. They are waaaaaaaaay higher. That's why P800 is a big indicator of "that dude won't know what he's doing"

    The only exception would be someone who was banned and made a new acc.

    ...or having medical condition which prevents them to play oh so beloved game (with all it's flaws) ... FeelsBadMan
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    posted a message on Paragon 10000!

    @lowfidelity
    are you kidding me? read it before calling it offtopic. i am talking about paragon leveling.

    No i am not.
    One sentence of Paragons everything else is beating the dead horse about PvP in Diablo 3. Btw, there are many many threads about that topic here.
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    posted a message on You gotta watch your steps nowadays when posting something online or even here at Diablofans. It's nothing like it was.
    Quote from Shapookyago-next

    Quote from rebjorngo-next

    Used to be a time when everyone respected everyone online


    yeah.... no. There was never such a time. Nothing changed, except you. You're just the cranky old guy now talking about how things were "in your time" while being completely selective with your memories.
    Shapookya, i've seen so many of your posts, most of them with quality information but i have to ask you: do you have something personal with the OP? As i wrote in my post, i too share similar thoughts like the OP.

    I may be 'old' but my memory is serving me just fine.

    If we go into details, i agree that "everyone respected everyone online" is far fetched statement and not true but it was less offensive "in my time". I've described (a bit) from my personal experience (what i belive) why we see huge increase of bad behavior online and why this trend is on the rise.
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    posted a message on You gotta watch your steps nowadays when posting something online or even here at Diablofans. It's nothing like it was.

    Raised in computer world (from ZX SPectrum, C64, C128, Atari, Amiga 500/1500/200, PC286........[too long to mention all of them :-)]), educated in computer technology and earned University IT degree, nowdays working in one of largest IT Corporations globally i've always been considered "PARANOID" :-)

    Why? Well to put it nicely in one poetical picture i would describe it in this way: In order to connect to my home WiFi you need to spend at least 30 minutes with admin (me) :-) Any kind of social networking is a big no no for me with all the BS that it brought to us. I even fight with my bosses NOT to have LinkedIn profile which became a standard in business nowdays.


    That being said, i know excatly where you're coming from OP. Back in the days, myself and few of my buddies we were the only ones who were really hooked on computers (of any kind). Bear in mind that in those days not many housings have their own PC (early 90-ies). We were always 'stigmatized' that we talk only about computers (it was actually technology, not always related to computers) and nothing else. And we were kinda avoided. By the same people we went to kindergarten, preschool an elementary school with. Really soon it all turned around: many of them got their own computers and they started to use as 'experts'. I didn't had a problem with that at all (they were friends after all) but at one point it turned out that what we (my geek buddies and myself) who spent all their lives researching about this matter (90's had Dial Up modems, and in my shitty country 33.6k was a USS Enterprise!) became equals, at least in their minds. This kind of mindset started to grow (and it is still growing) up to the point where many people consider them experts without ANY credentials. Just do a quick google on any kind of technical issue related to computers, you'll be amazed what people are writing as "proven solutions"


    Now, taking all this into consideration you'll see a 'big picture'. Soooo many people are using computers on daily basis and vast majority of them simply should not. Xenophobia? Elitism? Nah - common sense. As with everything else, people should learn a thing or two about CULTURE how something is used, same is with PC. Nice analogy would be driving - you cannot really call yourself a driver if you don't know how to (at least) exchange the tire, replenish liquid, fill the gas tank, put on winter chains.....and most important of all driving culture, like being aware of the traffic and actually let someone to take a turn if cars are pilling up behind the car who is awaiting good samaritan to let him. Or not to park on handicapped spot or to use the lanes which are made to be used in a predefined way (yellow lane). There was a proper reason why traffic is set up in this way. Many of people abuse this 'rules' and it's the same with computers. This is caused by selfishness and egoism and most of the times pure ignorance. Same ignorance of people who participate in online discussions (such as forums) using the tool called computer without any relevant knowledge. Please don't try to sell me story it's enough to know how to use the tool and not to know anything about it. One factor of this ignorance is the culture.


    Unfortunately we see more and more similar behavior online where everybody thinks they were here first, they invented the internet, they are the smartest and actually believe so. The amount of 'flame' on the internet nowdays is astonishing. I believe it's because people think they can hide behind username and write whatever they want, interact with others in any violent or offensive way without any consequences. Back in the day there was no Dynamic DNS'es and 'protection' by ISP. But not only that, people who were in "IT world" most often exchanged their knowledge and experience face to face (LAN parties anyone? :-))


    Be assured OP, there are some people out there who share your mindset and truly believe that interaction online (of any kind) MUST BE even more 'politically correct' because of lack of some elements in human interaction and communication (like body language, tone of voice and so on).

    Oh, and i will steer away from any kind of 'global networking association' as much as humanly possible - no need for explanation on my decission, right? :-)


    EDIT: grammar

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    posted a message on Once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away

    I love to see this community (D3) has broader interests than what 'usual gamer' has.

    In order not to write too much (and belive me if i start there will be no end to this) i will post a link and let you think about it:


    https://www.quantamagazine.org/20160211-gravitational-waves-discovered-at-long-last/


    I'm 99% sure you all are familiar with Star Trek world and Gene Roddenbery's idea of universe and technology, so i would like to 'draw' a parallel:


    Once upon a time there was this guy called Jules Verne who wrote about an idea of traveling to the bottom of the ocean and he was laughed upon and mocked. Now we consider Verne "A Visionary". With Roddenbery's idea of interstellar propulsion system (Warp engines) and recent discovery of gravitons i'm confident that he will become more or less what Verne is today. This discovery (more or less) confirms the Enistens theory of relativity and brings us toward something that human kind has either deliberately or by accident (highly unlikely) stopped researching - Unified Field Theory.

    If you are familiar with work of Nikola Tesla you know that he (almost) built a device based on this premise. Purpose of this device was to collect energy from Space....Funny ha? well not so much. We do have Solar collectors, right? Now even with higher efficiency then 20 years ago.Light can be considered both as particle and the wave, and guess what - with gravitons it's EXACTLY the same. (i do realize that this is field of quantum physics and mechanics - but let's keep it simple :-))



    Why is this important? Well, like someone said, traveling at speed of light is a subject of too many assumptions and speculations but if Roddenbery's general principle of creating a 'bubble' of some sort of gravity field (yeah i know, i need to include matter/antimatter into the equation, but for the sake of simplicity let's leave it aside) - then 'bending' the time-space is an option and this possibility creates a way to travel far distances in small amount of time.


    Never the less, i'm SUPER EXCITED for discovery of Gravitons. Another milestone in human kind evolution and progress.


    My 2 cents,

    LoFi

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    posted a message on Paragon 10000!

    this game, in this state, is a prisoner of its own. some players(esspecially todays players) love PvP(not PvE), challange, competative playstyle. id like to remind you guys this very important matter. im not saying we should turn this game to some sort of MOBA, but this is undeniable -and naturally expected-. why? because we arent living on an age of single player where we can be just happy and satisfied againts A.I enemies. as long as A.I doesnt develop itself to become very human-like, this will stay as this way. do you hear me blizzard?! YOU CANT IGNORE THIS FOREVER! ehem, anyway.

    i know its a big old topic, and i know some of you have a point by saying "diablo isnt about PvP", but alternate of allowing PvP, is going through setting a real deal competative gameplay... otherwise most players will lose interest and see no meaning/fun to play anymore then a week after every season start.

    blizzard should deciede what they will do about this situation. they ignored this for years and it clearly made no good. anyway, there are 2 options:

    1-make players compete each other directly by introducing a solid PvP arena system.
    -OR-
    2-make players compete each other indirectly by a solid skill based ladder system.

    as it seems, blizzard leaning towards option 2, but paragon level grinding is a big obstacle on this way. it should be nerfed heavyly or be capped at a reasonable number... if blizz dont do any of those, we will see return of bots no matter how hard ban hammer hit them... along with some small percentage of players trying to compete with them.

    my all friends abonded this game long ago, and some of them were hardcore fans of d1 & d2.... i am about to abonden it too, because of those reasons i said up there... oh man, blizzard really dissapoints me nowadays... so slow, so incapable of leading its own games... someone please insert *just do it!* meme here.

    edit: i could add "giving promise about pvp" but at this point i dont even care promises anymore. i just want diablo to be alive. thats why i make my self loud within forums now, after all these years. i almost feel like im in for the last call and i need to yell everyone before everything ends! pff!

    :offtopic:
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    posted a message on Paragon 10000!

    #230 posts shows that people have recognized the problems that came with Paragons. Good.


    This also presents a bit of an issue since i really don't want to go through all of them (i've stopped following this tread around #100 mark) and i might write something that was already mentioned before.


    I remember that Wyatt Cheng once replied:
    "We'll create and provide more content for powerfull players" (this may not be exact words) just about when we got increase of difficulty (from T6 to T10). That being said, let's try another angle to this Paragon issue. Since we cannot really change the whole system in it's core and most logical step would be to nerf the power leech from 5 mains stat to 1 main stat (per paragon level after p800) i was thinking more in a way how Blizzard might (i do hope at least). Bear in mind i didn't think this through super analytical, my suggestion is more a 'brain storm' if you like.


    Why not introduce 'special content' for super powerful? Here's your carrot to keep on grinding to that 1k, 1.5k, 2k paragon levels milestones.

    What content?

    - Well Set dungeons are good example, or something similar and make it super hard (a challenge!) and available only on certain paragon levels.

    A bit of further insight would be introducing some nostalgia like fighting with Diablo from D1 and D2, Mephisto, Baal....maybe on same locations as in prequels?

    What is the reward?

    - Maybe a special item? To make loot hunt again super exciting? For sure cosmetics for bragging right (wings, pennats, pets, transmogs - you name it). Maybe more stash space? I would love to be able to earn more stash space (not being forced to play season at least). How about XYZ rerolls at artisans free of charge or gamble tries at Kadala? I'm sure many of you have much better ideas than what i just wrote.


    Reward behind reward?
    - tracking time records of 'super powerful' clearing this content - a separate leaderboard; it doesn't even have to be tracked by Blizzard itself, i'm sure community will create a leaderbard that suits this need :-)


    This would (hopefully) bring in more diversity that we have already.


    One may say: "This will not going to be accepted well in player base as a whole" - well tough luck, prime nature of any ARPG is grind. Yes, there is also a loot hunt but then is some more grind. Did i mentioned grind already? :-D

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    posted a message on 2.4.1. Patch / The Meta Thread

    As I see it, it will always be like this, even if servers would be NASA class ones that doesn't lag ever and not even then.

    ...


    I don't want to sound as prick and it is a bit off topic but saying "NASA class" servers trying to emphasize quality and compute power is just plain wrong.

    Servers in their infrastructure nature are designed and constructed to provide compute (and in some cases storage) power to many clients/users. NASA doesn't have that many users to be 'served' as one may think, nor do they have peaks of usage like modern apps have (yes, Diablo 3 is an app :-)) Saying "Amazon class servers" or "Ebay class servers" or any global financial institutions would be correct phrase. I'd dare to say "Blizzard" class servers as well (WoW anyone?)

    Lag in D3 has many different causes and the one which bugs as the most is more related to game coding than to actual infrastructure and ofc 'philosophy' how this code is interacting with both clients and servers. Don't forget that Diablo 3 when it was launched had completely different 'meta' than it is now. When launched you were 'forced' to kite smaller groups of mobs in order to kill them. Nowdays it's vice versa, more monsters more damage you do, more exp you gain and so on. More mobs = more stuff going on = more stress on servers. Blizzard did tried to tackle this with changing their file system from .MPQ to CASC (both proprietary from Blizzard) and succeeded to some extent.

    Back on topic; there will always be 'flavor of the month/season/era' builds which will be marginally better then others. Same is for associated groups which are 'cookie cutters' in that specific point in time - a "group meta". Taking competition a bit aside (which is hard for most of you :-)) and looking back from when D3 was launched until now i see only progress. And this is a good thing. Yes there are still some balance to be done, some quality of life improvements to be done but in the end you have two options:
    Either you jump on the train and ride the current meta (and try for leaderboards push using 'cookie cutter' build) or you simply play how YOU WANT and maybe get a top 100 spot with a build YOU created. For me that is #1 spot anytime. Personally i think Paragons are much deeper and more important problem than the 'current meta'. 'Current meta' changes with start of new seasons, or sometimes even sooner - it happened before.


    Edit: grammar

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    posted a message on WTB switch skill&gear button!

    I can understand from where OP is coming from. I agree that creating a char for this sole purpose is an elegant and easy solution with two presumptions in mind:

    - there is enough character slots to create one (hoarders have a lot of mules!)

    - people with OCD (like myself) are having tough time to come up with name of new character


    The second one might seem obscene and stupid, but it does presents a 'problem'. When i started playing (since launch) i decided to go with "Comic books super hero theme" and i'm running out of character names (bear in mind that Marvel and DC are not the kind comics i'm talking about).

    I'm not saying that Blizzard should create such a functionality, but there are some people out there who would like to have it just the way OP presented :-)


    @OP: Your avatar picture goes perfectly with your post :-)

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