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    posted a message on Diablo 3 Necromancer
    Good work. Some tweaks to perfect but really cool. Maybe look to making him more bony. Weathered looking.
    Posted in: Fan Art
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    posted a message on Least popular class nerfed out of the game
    Oh shit. The game hasn't even released and we're already seeing nerf complaint threads.
    Posted in: Witch Doctor: The Mbwiru Eikura
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    posted a message on Where were you when you found out?!
    In bed. It was the first text I got that morning. I think my brother enjoys being the one to tell me things that I've been keeping up with on a daily basis while he doesn't follow it at all. It kind of made the news lackluster for me to be honest.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on Kickstarter help needed
    Has the internet become the new place for people to say "I have an idea and it will be successful!" and then they expect you to just hand them your money?

    Look up the word term Hollywood Pitch and see if that helps.
    Posted in: Off-Topic
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    posted a message on FINALLY
    Whatever. They waited too long and my dick is now limp and my balls blue as the Blizzard logo.

    But yeah, when I pick up the game at launch we'll see if I get exited again. This same thing happened with SC2 and I still haven't beaten the game because Blizz upped my expectations too much by making me wait and wait and wait.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on Please Lore me if I'm wrong but...
    Right. He's an embodiment of Terror. So he's allowed to be a flat character in many ways, and to develop him more as a character might hurt the story more than help if they did it wrong. But even gods through out mythology that embodied things like war, thunder, etc. all have stories in which very relatable human traits are present. Zeus liked to come to earth and mate with our women and make kids all over the place. Things like that. He had very human traits/flaws.

    And let's remember Baal from the D2 expansion. Baal led an army and seemed to have very human traits. He had more going on than Diablo at least. And remember, that Diablo is a known as a PRIME EVIL for a reason. He's evil.

    **Edit: Did some more Diablo research. He's apparently the strongest brother and drives those that work for him through sheer terror, which are some damn good villain traits.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Please Lore me if I'm wrong but...
    Yeah, so to some he's a great villain, to others he's just there.

    To be honest it seems like there's a lot of rationalization for why he's so evil when to me that should be obvious from the start. The best version of him creeping me out as a villain which someone pointed out is that he invades your character at the end of Diablo 1. I remember when I first saw that cutscene and it did send a shiver down my spine. So that is a good villainous trait. And in 2 watching him slowly envelop our warrior from the first game was eerie, but still these things are still passive threats. Diablo is always trying to mettle with things, as demons do. His threat seems to be more about "What COULD happen..." vs. "Diablo just burnt down half the planet." (Except I get the feeling in D3 we may come to see him pull off something like that.)
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Please Lore me if I'm wrong but...
    Thanks for all the lore info and opinions guys. So, I guess I can only ask: Does Diablo strike you as a great villain?

    As in Darth Vader (Pre-Lucas Prequels) would wet his big black pants over him?

    For me, he's loot. Background. I'm hoping 3 will change that.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on The no beta club thread.
    Quote from FreddyBenson

    i have the beta, but can i join your club please guys?


    Mmmmmm he temps me with FOOD.

    Nay. You are not allowed to join our band of snarky misanthropes.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on Tristram comparison: Diablo 1, Diablo 3
    You can tell D3 is being made by Diablo fans if stuff like this is making it into the game.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on Please Lore me if I'm wrong but...
    Right. It's there, it just hasn't really been explored yet. Merely grazed upon, which is okay of course (and I'm sure the books go further into the character). It's just that when I beat Diablo in D3 I want to feel like I've really accomplished slaying an indescribable evil. That I've defeated evil beyond evil. Not just a red, horned, demon who laughs when I enter the room.

    Usually the best villains in movies don't think they're evil. Could this be the case for Diablo? Is his perspective that he is merely doing what is right and good by his culture?

    It's interesting isn't it that Diablo is the game title and he's not the great super demon in the mythos of Sanctuary. I guess that's a good thing if you want to make sequels. If he were the head super beast beating him each game would feel like anti-climactic repetition.

    But don't you think in the world of story villains that Diablo is kind of...lackluster? He never springs to mind as any kind of great villain to me when I do a line up of them. He's more of a guy we kill in order to beat a game and get phat loots kinda monster (which could very well change in D3). You know what I mean? He doesn't ever make me go: "Oh damn that Diablo! Look at what he did to this village!" Instead he's just kind of,...there. In the background somewhere, waiting to be killed by me. He's not plucking off baby heads or deflowering virgins or eating angel stew or spreading a plague or anything really. He's just...there.

    And ever notice how no one ever talks about Diablo as a villain? He's just a trophy at the end of a game. He's not a constant impediment for the hero like villains in classic tales are. And there in lies my answer: He isn't a consistent obstacle for the main character - passively he is, but actively - not so much. That's why he feels so background to me and not as badass as he should to me. D2 still worked as a cool story because we hunted a still developing Diablo who gave us obstacles to overcome. But still...somehow...he feels so far away and background.

    Other games use this principle and it works. It's not a big deal, but it does make a difference when your game is named after that villainous character for me. It makes me expect way more out of the villain.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Please Lore me if I'm wrong but...
    Ok, thanks for all that sweet lore and explanation, but even after all that typing I still get the feeling like Diablo is a bad guy and that's it. A flat character who isn't explored all that much though we're on our 3rd game in the franchise and he's the biggest baddie at the end of each game. He almost becomes the Saturday morning carttoon villain who cooks up a scheme and gets beaten in the end only to cook up another scheme for next time.

    But his character. His motivations. His thoughts. His power. It isn't explored all that much. Perhaps with 3 they will have the chance to show us more and surprise us. As far as demons go though he's just a fairly large big red demon. Almost the same thing you've been killing the entire game. Seems like they will have to toss in some more characterization for him in 3 and maybe some plot twists to raise the stakes and the threat Diablo poses. I mean, they were able to make an expansion around his brother so he's actually just one of a group of evils in the end - what makes him an especially potent evil over the others? Or is it debatable?

    With so much room in the story to make him grow as a character I just can't wait for 3 any longer.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on The no beta club thread.
    Hi, people without beta. It's not to meet you.

    Nope. Didn't help. Even if I am Club Treasurer.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on To all without beta
    These threads shouldn't be allowed. They are like lemon juice squeezed over paper cuts on my eyes.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on The no beta club thread.
    Unite in order to achieve what exactly? More misery? More standing on the outside looking in?

    I call Club Treasurer.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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