Hopefully they tweak the pet explosion skill so that whatever element the mob is empowered with changes the effect of the explosion. Against the last boss fight you can see the other female necro throws the fire globs at her summons and they turn fiery, I'd hope this means they deal aoe fire damage when you sacrifice them
Think about why they might be less, they might be % based skills which give a large amount of say critical strike % and if the skill could have a max of 20, you might be getting 3-4% crit per level rather than 15% each level. When skills have such tiny increments it's hard to justify putting a lot of extra points into it because 'usually' the first level doesn't start at say 3-4% it usually starts at 20% or whatever for a variety of skills then progresses by 5%.. Without big gains from level to level people just throw one point in it and move on.. Oh it's 5 points max instead of 20, it's actually worth maxing because I'm getting a decent upgrade every point rather than it sucking 15 extra levels points before getting a marginal upgrade.
It's been a long time since I played d2 but back then it was mostly stack 20 into a few skill then throw around as many 1's as you could into appropriate skills to make good use of +skill items. Who knows if +skill items are coming back and who knows how big the tree will be, but you can be sure that you won't be able to max everything good. They'll probably do a lot more pre-reqs than what d2 had, just 1 point in skills to get to the next one, mainly to stop you throwing 5 points into something to get down 5 tiers in the tree. The tree's will undoubtedly be huge, well huge compared to d2 as they were pretty tiny on the scope of games that use a similar skill tree system.
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That was a nice comment and mature written at least. But I don't see any arguments against mine. I don't think Blizzard could go really wrong, and you do, that's just a difference in opinion. But I still don't see how people think that we will be able to max out all skills in diablo 3.
It theoretically got 'nothing' to do with the cap on a skill. Nothing in the gameplay video implies we will be able to max all skills.
This thread is another one like many I have seen. It is not input to make the game better, like you seem to think. It is more a type of whine.
If we cannot know something, then we should make the thread like 'I don't want to be able to max out all skills in diablo3', but here it's like 'I am annoyed because we will be able to max out all skills'. Do you see the difference? That was just an example.
I have seen good threads too on this forum to give input for Blizzard. 'What do we want to see in Diablo3'. Threads like these are 'neutral' and give constructive input. The many threads that start already with a negative tone are ridiculous.
Pretty much agree entirely with you here as well, too many people are on the d3 hating bandwagon solely for that reason. Some do have valid points, but a lot are just badly structured hate posts.
First things first, Art and game design should never turn into some sort of pseudo democracy, this is not presidential elections, the only one who has the right to decide what Diablo 3 looks like is Blizzard, not mindless nostalgia fueled petitions or crazed hard-core fans.
That's the main reason companies other than Blizzard ignore all this nonsense and make their games in secret to avoid such nonsense, and soon Blizzard too will do the same because of the attitude of mindless immature fans.
I have said countless time that Blizzard justified their changes in the game looks during their Art Panels in WWI, and it makes more sense than the mindless nostalgia fest going on here, anyone with even the slightest artistic sense could see how much hard work has been done on Diablo 3, so it is immature, implotie and rude to just ask them to change it all just because your nostlagia is hurting, if you don't like Diablo 3 as it is just don't buy it or play it, go play the countless gritty clones out there, or make your own company.
Reasons for the changes:-
*it has been already 20 years since Diablo 2, more than enough to change the whole look of the world.
* Stylish, giving Diablo 3 its own character and personality, allowing it to stand out from the crowd of brown and grey games, or 'realistic' (e.g. boring) looking games.
* Not monotonous. The use of inviting colours, contours, tones, vibrance, and animations are some of the game's major strengths. Makes the game accessible and playable for a long period of time.
* The use of colors allow for a wide variety of settings and locations, away from the mundane worlds of greys and browns.
* Vibrant colors and a wide variety of locations do not prohibit the game from having 'dark gothic' locations within the game. Diablo 2 consisted mainly of vibrant locations, but that didn't prevent the Durance of Hate from being a part of the game.
So to set things right i'll try to explain those changes and refute all the baseless nostalgia fueled claims that make no sense.
1-claim one They say Diablo 3 is cartoony and colorful Validtiy:nonsense, if Diablo 3 is cartoony then real life is loony toons, Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 were more much more colorful and cartoony than Diablo 3, which is 40 times more realistic than both of them.
Proofs:
-NATURE is VIVID and COLORFUL and that DOESN'T MAKE IT CARTOONY
IF THIS IS CARTOONY
THEN THIS IS A PIC FROM LOONY TOONS
-RAINBOWS are a freaking NATURAL phenomena, it has nothing to do with your freaking PONIES
Let's play find the ponie, what ?, there ain't any, OMG !!!!!
-Diablo 2 and Diablo 1 were very colorful and very cartoony ( STATED BY DIABLO DEV TEAM )
DIABLO 2 DISCO TIME
Still wonder which one is cartoony colorful and bright and which one is realistic, then maybe you should you go check your eyes at the nearest doctor.
Also D2 had normal daytime and VERY BRIGHT environments
IT WAS NOT ALL GLOOOMY AND DARK, you don't know what you are talking about and make yourselves look like 15 years old emo-Gothic girls how want every thing black and blotted with blood and gore, GET A LIFE.
2-claim two They say Diablo 3 looks like WoW Validtiy:Not true, Diablo 3 has a slightly stylish look that looks nothing like WoW, Team Fortress has a stylish look, does that mean it looks like WoW or Diablo 3, NO, and also in general not every fantasy stylized 3d game is WoW.
Proofs: This is the very stylish and low poly look of WoW, you can see it's textures and details are greatly lacking and that the colors are not coherent, both hands and feet are large and anatomy in general is exaggerated
THIS is DIABLO 3, the COLORS are COHERENT, the DETAILS are CRISP, the TEXTURES are RICH, the MOOD is CLEARLY SET, the CHARACTER SKIN is very detailed and the anatomy is only slightly stylized and looks closer to real life than anything before ( even in D1 and D2 )
NOT EVERY 3D stylized game is WOW, get real.
AND STYLISH = NOT BORING
( they stated that countless times but you call yourselves Blizz fans and keep ignoring that )
No Blizz true fan would Want D3 to look like every freaking generic 3d hack and slash clone out there, they are all NOT stylized and look like each other.
Can you even tell the difference between the first screen shot and the other two, for your surprise they are both two different games, yet they freaking look the same, do you know why ?
BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH FREAKING DARK AND BORING WITH NO MOOD OR AMBIENT COLORS, NO SANE DIABLO FAN WOULD WANT DIABLO 3 to look this GENERIC, BLAND AND SHITTY.
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3-claim three They say Diablo 3 Armor is spiky and large Validtiy:That's hilarious, did you even check how the armor wore by the Barbarian in D2 looked like, seriously !!!!!
Proofs:
The spiky armor above was in the game, and this Barbarian 3D model here was the one used for the 2D sprite in the Diablo 2 game as stated by the artist himself, so, that bland looking armor or this new more detailed and realistic one.
The Barbarian heavy armor designs always featured spikes and huge shoulder pieces, and simple as that, it looks a lot better now.
Warhammer universe also has very bulky armor and there is nothing cartoony about it, it is a gritty universe.
That's all for now
And remember i'm not the one how created the current look for Daiblo 3, it is BLIZZARD, the same company that made DIABLO 1 and DIABLO 2 that you keep whining about, THEY KNOW BETTER THAN YOU.
THEY HAD VERY GOOD REASONS FOR THEIR CHANGES, and ALL you WHINE about IS NOSTALGIA, DARKNESS AND BLOOD, quite an argument, an perfectly EMO one.
I finally sat down and read the whole thread and this is one of the more constructive posts made with a lot of good points that adress a lot of concearns with logic and fact.
First things first, Art and game design should never turn into some sort of pseudo democracy, this is not presidential elections, the only one who has the right to decide what Diablo 3 looks like is Blizzard, not mindless nostalgia fueled petitions or crazed hard-core fans.
That's the main reason companies other than Blizzard ignore all this nonsense and make their games in secret to avoid such nonsense, and soon Blizzard too will do the same because of the attitude of mindless immature fans.
I have said countless time that Blizzard justified their changes in the game looks during their Art Panels in WWI, and it makes more sense than the mindless nostalgia fest going on here, anyone with even the slightest artistic sense could see how much hard work has been done on Diablo 3, so it is immature, implotie and rude to just ask them to change it all just because your nostlagia is hurting, if you don't like Diablo 3 as it is just don't buy it or play it, go play the countless gritty clones out there, or make your own company.
Reasons for the changes:-
*it has been already 20 years since Diablo 2, more than enough to change the whole look of the world.
* Stylish, giving Diablo 3 its own character and personality, allowing it to stand out from the crowd of brown and grey games, or 'realistic' (e.g. boring) looking games.
* Not monotonous. The use of inviting colours, contours, tones, vibrance, and animations are some of the game's major strengths. Makes the game accessible and playable for a long period of time.
* The use of colors allow for a wide variety of settings and locations, away from the mundane worlds of greys and browns.
* Vibrant colors and a wide variety of locations do not prohibit the game from having 'dark gothic' locations within the game. Diablo 2 consisted mainly of vibrant locations, but that didn't prevent the Durance of Hate from being a part of the game.
So to set things right i'll try to explain those changes and refute all the baseless nostalgia fueled claims that make no sense.
1-claim one They say Diablo 3 is cartoony and colorful Validtiy:nonsense, if Diablo 3 is cartoony then real life is loony toons, Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 were more much more colorful and cartoony than Diablo 3, which is 40 times more realistic than both of them.
Proofs:
-NATURE is VIVID and COLORFUL and that DOESN'T MAKE IT CARTOONY
IF THIS IS CARTOONY
THEN THIS IS A PIC FROM LOONY TOONS
-RAINBOWS are a freaking NATURAL phenomena, it has nothing to do with your freaking PONIES
Let's play find the ponie, what ?, there ain't any, OMG !!!!!
-Diablo 2 and Diablo 1 were very colorful and very cartoony ( STATED BY DIABLO DEV TEAM )
DIABLO 2 DISCO TIME
Still wonder which one is cartoony colorful and bright and which one is realistic, then maybe you should you go check your eyes at the nearest doctor.
Also D2 had normal daytime and VERY BRIGHT environments
IT WAS NOT ALL GLOOOMY AND DARK, you don't know what you are talking about and make yourselves look like 15 years old emo-Gothic girls how want every thing black and blotted with blood and gore, GET A LIFE.
2-claim two They say Diablo 3 looks like WoW Validtiy:Not true, Diablo 3 has a slightly stylish look that looks nothing like WoW, Team Fortress has a stylish look, does that mean it looks like WoW or Diablo 3, NO, and also in general not every fantasy stylized 3d game is WoW.
Proofs: This is the very stylish and low poly look of WoW, you can see it's textures and details are greatly lacking and that the colors are not coherent, both hands and feet are large and anatomy in general is exaggerated
THIS is DIABLO 3, the COLORS are COHERENT, the DETAILS are CRISP, the TEXTURES are RICH, the MOOD is CLEARLY SET, the CHARACTER SKIN is very detailed and the anatomy is only slightly stylized and looks closer to real life than anything before ( even in D1 and D2 )
NOT EVERY 3D stylized game is WOW, get real.
AND STYLISH = NOT BORING
( they stated that countless times but you call yourselves Blizz fans and keep ignoring that )
No Blizz true fan would Want D3 to look like every freaking generic 3d hack and slash clone out there, they are all NOT stylized and look like each other.
Can you even tell the difference between the first screen shot and the other two, for your surprise they are both two different games, yet they freaking look the same, do you know why ?
BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH FREAKING DARK AND BORING WITH NO MOOD OR AMBIENT COLORS, NO SANE DIABLO FAN WOULD WANT DIABLO 3 to look this GENERIC, BLAND AND SHITTY.
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3-claim three They say Diablo 3 Armor is spiky and large Validtiy:That's hilarious, did you even check how the armor wore by the Barbarian in D2 looked like, seriously !!!!!
Proofs:
The spiky armor above was in the game, and this Barbarian 3D model here was the one used for the 2D sprite in the Diablo 2 game as stated by the artist himself, so, that bland looking armor or this new more detailed and realistic one.
The Barbarian heavy armor designs always featured spikes and huge shoulder pieces, and simple as that, it looks a lot better now.
Warhammer universe also has very bulky armor and there is nothing cartoony about it, it is a gritty universe.
That's all for now
And remember i'm not the one how created the current look for Daiblo 3, it is BLIZZARD, the same company that made DIABLO 1 and DIABLO 2 that you keep whining about, THEY KNOW BETTER THAN YOU.
THEY HAD VERY GOOD REASONS FOR THEIR CHANGES, and ALL you WHINE about IS NOSTALGIA, DARKNESS AND BLOOD, quite an argument, an perfectly EMO one.
Please stay true to the current version of D3, I loved it as well my brother did who played on bnet with me for years and years. I'd be dissapointed if you would take away what we've seen so far and cave into pressure. I believe you need to stay strong to your original idea of what you want D3 to be, remember this is D3, not D2 and it's been seven years since.. I think this overhaul is the perfect graphical advancement for the franchise.
<3 to Blizzard YOU ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB KEEP IT UP!
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It's been a long time since I played d2 but back then it was mostly stack 20 into a few skill then throw around as many 1's as you could into appropriate skills to make good use of +skill items. Who knows if +skill items are coming back and who knows how big the tree will be, but you can be sure that you won't be able to max everything good. They'll probably do a lot more pre-reqs than what d2 had, just 1 point in skills to get to the next one, mainly to stop you throwing 5 points into something to get down 5 tiers in the tree. The tree's will undoubtedly be huge, well huge compared to d2 as they were pretty tiny on the scope of games that use a similar skill tree system.
Pretty much agree entirely with you here as well, too many people are on the d3 hating bandwagon solely for that reason. Some do have valid points, but a lot are just badly structured hate posts.
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I finally sat down and read the whole thread and this is one of the more constructive posts made with a lot of good points that adress a lot of concearns with logic and fact.
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Inspirational, seriously :thumbsup:
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<3 to Blizzard YOU ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB KEEP IT UP!