Every season you have the chance to earn one additional stash tab. If you don't get it in S5, it just means that it'll take you one more season to get all the stash tabs (there's a total of four you can get by finishing the season journey's stash tab goal in four seasons). If you don't get your S5 stash tab it just means that you won't have the maximum of 4 additional stash tab (resulting in a total of 10) before season 9 (S6, S7, S8, and S9 for you). The earliest anyone will have all 10 stash tabs is season 8.
So to sum it up, as soon as season 5 is over (which is not for at least another 2 weeks, maybe even 3-4, we still haven't seen the announcement) you can't get the S5 stash tab anymore, but it only means it'll take you one more season; you don't really "lose" anything or "miss out" on anything. It's just delayed.
Awesome, really needed clarification on this.
Another thing - I couldn't find any reliable info on is what is required to earn the tabs. Could you perhaps provide those details?
Much appreciated!
-Jayce
Every season you have the chance to earn one additional stash tab. If you don't get it in S5, it just means that it'll take you one more season to get all the stash tabs (there's a total of four you can get by finishing the season journey's stash tab goal in four seasons). If you don't get your S5 stash tab it just means that you won't have the maximum of 4 additional stash tab (resulting in a total of 10) before season 9 (S6, S7, S8, and S9 for you). The earliest anyone will have all 10 stash tabs is season 8.
So to sum it up, as soon as season 5 is over (which is not for at least another 2 weeks, maybe even 3-4, we still haven't seen the announcement) you can't get the S5 stash tab anymore, but it only means it'll take you one more season; you don't really "lose" anything or "miss out" on anything. It's just delayed.
That's too "extensive" explanation i think.
We don't now many seasons would be ahead. Maybe blizzard would give up on the "1 stash tab per season" idea completely next season. Or give up on seasons. Or maybe invent something else. Or maybe give us 5 stash tabs next season. We have no clue literally. So saying that "you don't muss out" your stash tab is incorrect i think.
If you haven't got your extra stash tab this season: you'll just have one less stash tab than the ones who got their stash tabs this season.
There are two types of botters: those who do it for competitive reasons (to gain an advantage over other players, to crush the leaderboard/paragon ladder, etc), and those who do it for convenience reasons (the only purpose is to make the game more fun for themselves, they don't care about the leaderboards or paragon race or whatever; people who "lack time" or are just straight up too bored of TX rifts/bounties all fall into this category).
People who bot for competitive reasons are directly malicious to the games competitive integrity, and they will cheat and bot whenever it is not too risky (most common reason being "well, everybody else does it, so will I"). The only way to fix this type of behavior is directly punishing it. The risk of losing an account is virtually the only thing keeping this type in check, but the efficiency of this strategy only depends on how active Blizzard is with updating detection and banning. It is, however, very possible to scare away all of these (even a single big banwave at the end of each season will be enough).
People who bot for convenience are a more interesting phenomenon. For them, the game is simply not fun if they are forced to play the intended way (e.g. a statement like "if I do get banned, I don't care, because these bots/cheats made the game significantly more fun for me, I acknowledge the risks and I believe it's worth it"). The intent itself isn't malicious - the intent is just to make the game more enjoyable for themselves. These players don't really damage the competitive environment simply because they don't participate in it (generally). Now the most important thing is, these players aren't afraid of getting banned - they literally state that they aren't. If you do ban these players, especially without fixing the things that they are willing to lose their accounts for, you are more than likely losing them permanently. From a developers point of view, it's much wiser to first fix the core issues that created this group, and then proceed to warn and/or ban people. (This is exactly how they handled their recent banwaves in WoW, for example.)
Note that I'm not defending anyone and my point isn't that any one type of botting/cheating is justified. I'm not making a "this is ok"/"this is not ok" statement. I am just analyzing two things which I think are different, and I am doing it from developer standpoint. I think this might explain why their bans were quite selective, and the bias towards competitive players can be clearly tracked. Those players will still come back (most of them), just on different accounts.
That is 100% correct.
I've seen both types of botters. The second one we have in our clan (why he isn't banned i have no idea, admins know he's a botter). He's barely playing. Has been banned in season 2 for botting, still he bought another account and just "idling" there now. He never pushes leaderboards, barely participates in any clan activities. He's p1200, and he botted whole season 4 AFKing with his monk , up to p800 i believe. He's just a strange "filler". I think he completely lost interest in the game itself and just runs bot to check what gear it found.
I personally like the numbers that THUD shows (damage, exp, etc), but i dislike the fact that it works like a maphack. It gives user these precious SECONDS to get rank 1 instead of rank 2 for example. And this is a cheat as well.
I doubt there is at least ONE top1 ranked player left now who hasn't used thud. Maybe just Quin and Alkaizer.
they both use it, don't be so naive.
I doubt so. Quin is just too scared to be banned. The risks are too high for him, his twitch sheeps are all that is "feeding" him. And Alkaizer just never cared i believe. He did so many rank1's, he's just good at it and does not need any cheats.
I personally like the numbers that THUD shows (damage, exp, etc), but i dislike the fact that it works like a maphack. It gives user these precious SECONDS to get rank 1 instead of rank 2 for example. And this is a cheat as well.
I doubt there is at least ONE top1 ranked player left now who hasn't used thud. Maybe just Quin and Alkaizer.
It's always fun to read people excuses for botting. "I work in military", "I work in health care". "I don't live with mom".
We get it guys, but this ain't an excuse for botting and cheating.
I am also a p1000 scrub with girlfriend, full time job and no mom's basement. But i don't bot, and i perfectly understand i won't catch up with mom's dwellers that can simply play for 16 hours straight, like Chainer for example. I am not even trying. I know i can't do it because "NO TIME", i am just enjoying the game as it is.
I checked some data and i think only "old" accounts were banned. By "old" i mean those who botted like 2 months ago. The girl streamer second account is alive (the original is banned). Gabynator hasn't botted for like 2 last weeks (was scared), yet he indeed is banned, and he botted like crazy since season start.
I have my doubts about Chainer too. I absolutely ain't gonna accuse anyone here, but i am 99% sure he botted like crazy this season. Yet his account is fine.
I think bans happened based on some "old data", collected from previous months.
This is why you see some botters are still untouched. I guess some accounts simply had less or earlier botting "uptime" than the others.
That girl botter has been botting from two accounts by the way. I checked her previous account and it's gone. Her latest account (the one she used to bot s5 with) is still there. That's pretty strange that she escaped.
Waiting for a NON-SEASONAL banwave as well. I logged in and checked, botters on my friend list are offline, but chars all there. They are scared to death i believe.
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http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-iii-general-forums/diablo-iii-general-discussion/142295-complete-list-of-season-5-journey-requirements-and
you need to do everything up to Conqueror AND all Conqueror steps.
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We don't now many seasons would be ahead. Maybe blizzard would give up on the "1 stash tab per season" idea completely next season. Or give up on seasons. Or maybe invent something else. Or maybe give us 5 stash tabs next season. We have no clue literally. So saying that "you don't muss out" your stash tab is incorrect i think.
If you haven't got your extra stash tab this season: you'll just have one less stash tab than the ones who got their stash tabs this season.
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That is 100% correct.
I've seen both types of botters. The second one we have in our clan (why he isn't banned i have no idea, admins know he's a botter). He's barely playing. Has been banned in season 2 for botting, still he bought another account and just "idling" there now. He never pushes leaderboards, barely participates in any clan activities. He's p1200, and he botted whole season 4 AFKing with his monk , up to p800 i believe. He's just a strange "filler". I think he completely lost interest in the game itself and just runs bot to check what gear it found.
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I personally like the numbers that THUD shows (damage, exp, etc), but i dislike the fact that it works like a maphack. It gives user these precious SECONDS to get rank 1 instead of rank 2 for example. And this is a cheat as well.
I doubt there is at least ONE top1 ranked player left now who hasn't used thud. Maybe just Quin and Alkaizer.
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It's always fun to read people excuses for botting. "I work in military", "I work in health care". "I don't live with mom".
We get it guys, but this ain't an excuse for botting and cheating.
I am also a p1000 scrub with girlfriend, full time job and no mom's basement. But i don't bot, and i perfectly understand i won't catch up with mom's dwellers that can simply play for 16 hours straight, like Chainer for example. I am not even trying. I know i can't do it because "NO TIME", i am just enjoying the game as it is.
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I checked some data and i think only "old" accounts were banned. By "old" i mean those who botted like 2 months ago. The girl streamer second account is alive (the original is banned). Gabynator hasn't botted for like 2 last weeks (was scared), yet he indeed is banned, and he botted like crazy since season start.
I have my doubts about Chainer too. I absolutely ain't gonna accuse anyone here, but i am 99% sure he botted like crazy this season. Yet his account is fine.
I think bans happened based on some "old data", collected from previous months.
This is why you see some botters are still untouched. I guess some accounts simply had less or earlier botting "uptime" than the others.
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Out of interest I checked SOS clan roster.
Out of 30 TOP paragon players = 22 were banned. LOL
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That girl botter has been botting from two accounts by the way. I checked her previous account and it's gone. Her latest account (the one she used to bot s5 with) is still there. That's pretty strange that she escaped.
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Waiting for a NON-SEASONAL banwave as well. I logged in and checked, botters on my friend list are offline, but chars all there. They are scared to death i believe.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHHP1jG4xyc
So there is justice after all. FINALLY
Most SOS clan banned, Reign clan banned. Goooooood