You are wrong, I went up from t3 to t6 with the survivality changes and new attack speed on generators + new passives with IAS.
and you pls stop telling everyone they're wrong. would be better if YOU stop talking bullshit and not knowing anything. survivability won't kill the mobs, and if they don't die, they kill you no matter how long you can survive with your "new attack speed on gen+passives".
i bet it doesn't bother an elephant if a fly sits on his back. and so is the monk class at the moment. its not a ninja like killer, its the fly on the elephan(mob)
moving from t3 to t6 isn't a big thing if what all monk players are talking about is how GOD DAMN WEAK the class is compared to others while doing higher GRifts and blizzard just not doing anything to help out.
I know we are not good as other classes, but we are heading in the good wa. Im managing to do solo a t6 rift without unity in about 8-10 minutes depending on the density.
Your claiming about other classes won't be enough, if you don't like Monk then go and play other class. We know that WD is the best class and no other class can do so much dmg as this one does.
Besides saying that it is wrong and wrong, you can start playing and try to compare to other Monks, becuase that is the way it is mention to work (leaderboards).
heading in a good way in nerfing the only good skills? hm yeah makes sense. i managed to do t6 even before PTR started, so no point in hyping the fact that you gloriously "worked your way from t3 to t6". t6 just isn't the level to measure how good a class is. every second-third casual player can roll t6 and it's no hot news anymore.
my claiming should be enough, because there is no point in being weaker than others and it's 100% not intended from blizzard to have classes that are as weak as monks. And be satisfied, i play other classes, at least i had played them enough to see the differences. i have a perfect jade wd, also with pets, wizard with 2-3 viable builds, a crusader and i think i just roll a demon hunter, because it's not as damn freaking weak as monk.
to "saying wrong" was ment to be for you, you say in almost every post that other persons are wrong who can't justify the crappy patch notes for monk with just a shitty increase in APS of generators ( ... GENERATORS ffs, who the f"$§ wants to play with generators, it's like if you had a lamborghini in the garage but prefer to go with roller blades)
there is also no fuggin' sense for me to compare myself to other monks, i want to see if my class is EQUAL to other classes and not HANDICAPPED.
no point in competing in paralympics if you're a healthy sports man.
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You obviously didn't played season and kept playing no seasonal. Before PTR I could do t6 solo too but took me a lot to get the correct items. Now on season with around 30 hours playing could do solo t6 which means a lot: a player from zero who can play t6 in 30 hours of gameplay says a lot of a class. My non seasonal Monk had around 1000 hours playing (since vanilla) and I think you do too, so it is no argument to say "I could do it too before PTR".
As the philosophy of Monks says, it is a fast-attack-class which it is obvious that me and other players too want to play with generators. So there is your answer.
I agree that we are not good as other classes, but we are heading in the correct way. Every new PTR build Monks has been getting ton of changes.
and i think you obviously don't know the difference between seasonal and non-seasonal ...
You are wrong, I went up from t3 to t6 with the survivality changes and new attack speed on generators + new passives with IAS.
and you pls stop telling everyone they're wrong. would be better if YOU stop talking bullshit and not knowing anything. survivability won't kill the mobs, and if they don't die, they kill you no matter how long you can survive with your "new attack speed on gen+passives".
i bet it doesn't bother an elephant if a fly sits on his back. and so is the monk class at the moment. its not a ninja like killer, its the fly on the elephan(mob)
moving from t3 to t6 isn't a big thing if what all monk players are talking about is how GOD DAMN WEAK the class is compared to others while doing higher GRifts and blizzard just not doing anything to help out.
I know we are not good as other classes, but we are heading in the good wa. Im managing to do solo a t6 rift without unity in about 8-10 minutes depending on the density.
Your claiming about other classes won't be enough, if you don't like Monk then go and play other class. We know that WD is the best class and no other class can do so much dmg as this one does.
Besides saying that it is wrong and wrong, you can start playing and try to compare to other Monks, becuase that is the way it is mention to work (leaderboards).
heading in a good way in nerfing the only good skills? hm yeah makes sense. i managed to do t6 even before PTR started, so no point in hyping the fact that you gloriously "worked your way from t3 to t6". t6 just isn't the level to measure how good a class is. every second-third casual player can roll t6 and it's no hot news anymore.
my claiming should be enough, because there is no point in being weaker than others and it's 100% not intended from blizzard to have classes that are as weak as monks. And be satisfied, i play other classes, at least i had played them enough to see the differences. i have a perfect jade wd, also with pets, wizard with 2-3 viable builds, a crusader and i think i just roll a demon hunter, because it's not as damn freaking weak as monk.
to "saying wrong" was ment to be for you, you say in almost every post that other persons are wrong who can't justify the crappy patch notes for monk with just a shitty increase in APS of generators ( ... GENERATORS ffs, who the f"$§ wants to play with generators, it's like if you had a lamborghini in the garage but prefer to go with roller blades)
there is also no fuggin' sense for me to compare myself to other monks, i want to see if my class is EQUAL to other classes and not HANDICAPPED.
no point in competing in paralympics if you're a healthy sports man.
:rolleyes:
How... How is there no "Drunken Master" skill then?
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Maybe I;m a bastard, but in my mind, "Russian Monk" is as self-contradictory term as "Lava Polar Bear". Or "Cuddly Terminator". My brain hurts...
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Besides, my female monk's swinging hips beats that scraggly beards 9/10 times.
at least it would explain why the chars speak the 'r' in the russian way, at least in original english version. ("the storm brrreaks")
also, most names of D3 monks remind of russian names ending with -ov, -in etc. "monks of Ivgorod" "eye of Peshkov" , "Rospedin" etc.
other fact for you: if you know what a terrestrial globe is, you might take a look at it and recognizing that russia is the neighbour of Mongolia, China and some other asian countries
You are wrong, I went up from t3 to t6 with the survivality changes and new attack speed on generators + new passives with IAS.
and you pls stop telling everyone they're wrong. would be better if YOU stop talking bullshit and not knowing anything. survivability won't kill the mobs, and if they don't die, they kill you no matter how long you can survive with your "new attack speed on gen+passives".
i bet it doesn't bother an elephant if a fly sits on his back. and so is the monk class at the moment. its not a ninja like killer, its the fly on the elephan(mob)
moving from t3 to t6 isn't a big thing if what all monk players are talking about is how GOD DAMN WEAK the class is compared to others while doing higher GRifts and blizzard just not doing anything to help out.
besides the transcendece and _optional_ new mantra there are 0 substantial changes to make monks better.
if you attack a bit faster doesnt mean you deal essentially more damage. you just deal little damage in a faster way.
who cares of zDPS build, it died when the nerfed EP. As well as Raiment, the ought to be the strongest set for monks, is getting nerfed by crazy +2 (!!!!) seconds cooldown for the damage dealer skill. even if you play with as much cdr as possible with this, how low do you get now? 3-4s for 1 recharge? have fun surviving in more demanding rift lvls.
besides transcendence, 95% of monk's patch notes are bullsh!t
// Edit: read on the official forum that sss+madstone was not intended and fixed .. well, no viable monk build now then. Let's switch to DH maybe..
as others mentioned, clear times are dependend on other factors.
for jade, ias is not important, because you won't be able to use soul harvest faster (which is, how the build deals its damage). rather its the CDR, thats why you put a diamond in the helm and some also add CDR on shoulders,mojo etc. also the DoT ticks won't tick faster, you are simply able to cast haunt & locust more often, but how does that benefit you if these 3-5 mobs already have been haunted each one? not at all.
for jade build in first place, it's the most important how often you can nuke and this managed by the fact of how often you can 1-shot mobs. thus dealing more damage with single nukes with Sunkeeper (meaning on elites, trash is 1 shot anyway).
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Yeah I gotta say, that's what made me pick a female monk right at the launch of D3.
That beard... yuck. Just, yuck. I guess it's personal preference, but hell, it doesn't even make sense.
You have to be a specific breed of Neo-Nazi to shave your head daily yet maintain a big scruffy gross-beard.
Just google images "monk". No beards right? D3 Monk is obviously an imposter.
They added a few new passives and now you can play your Monks without using EP.
I think that SSS works really good with Madstone and a lot of CDR (first build) to do easily t1-t3 and start to arm your full end game build.
i know that, i own myself a good madstone equipment and run t6 with it, but i don't think its supposed be the only possible way to play this build with 65-75% CDR...
sounds ok, but ... i really hope its not only LTK and WoL they will touch .. i think SSS should be reworked for better CD and more AOE damage possibilities as the best spender. also adding 1-2 completely new skills will be nice too, since we have several skills less than all other classes ...
also some item that lets you have all allies at once would be nice, just as the pets from DH with m6 or barb. SW +5-7 stacks hm .. gonna make much damage i think, but maybe it will make Innas sort of mandatory... a weak vanilla set .. :/
Kekegi (Rolls CDR, and has an effect which removes cast costs for a few seconds, aiding spam)
More Notes (yes, really):
I have not provided alternatives for the sunwuko amulet as the stated pieces provide the most diversity on other gear pieces (specifically, belt, helm and pants). If the amulet is not used, the only way to use both inna's and sunwuko together is with a RoRG and without any special helm, pants, or belt (I would not recommended this at all).
i think new kekegis doesnt roll CDR anymore, instead the Vigilante Belt does.
I'm personally running SWK + Innas with shoulders,gloves and helm from SWK, because the amulet rolled really bad. In addition i use Innas' Daibo with chest + belt. Boots & Pants are Blackthornes, Strongarm gloves proc for CS and I deal quite good damage with combination of CS + Blinding Flash + Relentless Assault passive (~60mil SWK procs) with spamming Mantra of Healing(-Circular breathing) while taking use of MoH's shield. This spec is built on mass spirit regen and quite slow movement through rifts.
@OP:
I prefer my SWK with Madstone + FoA + Borns & Captns with mass CDR everywhere (Vigilante belt also). spec, adding Relentless Assault + Determination as passives. SSS can also use the 14s-rune.
The loot from a Horadric Cache won't change based on the difficulty, but Torment 1 does offer incentives (like an increased drop rate, gold and experience) that help while you're earning a cache. If what you want is to get as many Horadric Caches as possible then a lower difficulty might be optimal, though, since all of the benefits for increasing the difficulty to Torment 1 exist outside of the cache specific loot.
And you sir, are a tool. God forbid someone have misinformation. There was no need to insult. I would thank you for giving me the correct information, but you're a douche bag.
and now compare my sentence with yours and find the insult
The loot from a Horadric Cache won't change based on the difficulty, but Torment 1 does offer incentives (like an increased drop rate, gold and experience) that help while you're earning a cache. If what you want is to get as many Horadric Caches as possible then a lower difficulty might be optimal, though, since all of the benefits for increasing the difficulty to Torment 1 exist outside of the cache specific loot.
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my claiming should be enough, because there is no point in being weaker than others and it's 100% not intended from blizzard to have classes that are as weak as monks. And be satisfied, i play other classes, at least i had played them enough to see the differences. i have a perfect jade wd, also with pets, wizard with 2-3 viable builds, a crusader and i think i just roll a demon hunter, because it's not as damn freaking weak as monk.
to "saying wrong" was ment to be for you, you say in almost every post that other persons are wrong who can't justify the crappy patch notes for monk with just a shitty increase in APS of generators ( ... GENERATORS ffs, who the f"$§ wants to play with generators, it's like if you had a lamborghini in the garage but prefer to go with roller blades)
there is also no fuggin' sense for me to compare myself to other monks, i want to see if my class is EQUAL to other classes and not HANDICAPPED.
no point in competing in paralympics if you're a healthy sports man.
:rolleyes:
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also, most names of D3 monks remind of russian names ending with -ov, -in etc. "monks of Ivgorod" "eye of Peshkov" , "Rospedin" etc.
other fact for you: if you know what a terrestrial globe is, you might take a look at it and recognizing that russia is the neighbour of Mongolia, China and some other asian countries
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i bet it doesn't bother an elephant if a fly sits on his back. and so is the monk class at the moment. its not a ninja like killer, its the fly on the elephan(mob)
moving from t3 to t6 isn't a big thing if what all monk players are talking about is how GOD DAMN WEAK the class is compared to others while doing higher GRifts and blizzard just not doing anything to help out.
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if you attack a bit faster doesnt mean you deal essentially more damage. you just deal little damage in a faster way.
who cares of zDPS build, it died when the nerfed EP. As well as Raiment, the ought to be the strongest set for monks, is getting nerfed by crazy +2 (!!!!) seconds cooldown for the damage dealer skill. even if you play with as much cdr as possible with this, how low do you get now? 3-4s for 1 recharge? have fun surviving in more demanding rift lvls.
besides transcendence, 95% of monk's patch notes are bullsh!t
// Edit: read on the official forum that sss+madstone was not intended and fixed .. well, no viable monk build now then. Let's switch to DH maybe..
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for jade, ias is not important, because you won't be able to use soul harvest faster (which is, how the build deals its damage). rather its the CDR, thats why you put a diamond in the helm and some also add CDR on shoulders,mojo etc. also the DoT ticks won't tick faster, you are simply able to cast haunt & locust more often, but how does that benefit you if these 3-5 mobs already have been haunted each one? not at all.
for jade build in first place, it's the most important how often you can nuke and this managed by the fact of how often you can 1-shot mobs. thus dealing more damage with single nukes with Sunkeeper (meaning on elites, trash is 1 shot anyway).
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um yeah .. makes sense ... not
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also some item that lets you have all allies at once would be nice, just as the pets from DH with m6 or barb. SW +5-7 stacks hm .. gonna make much damage i think, but maybe it will make Innas sort of mandatory... a weak vanilla set .. :/
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I'm personally running SWK + Innas with shoulders,gloves and helm from SWK, because the amulet rolled really bad. In addition i use Innas' Daibo with chest + belt. Boots & Pants are Blackthornes, Strongarm gloves proc for CS and I deal quite good damage with combination of CS + Blinding Flash + Relentless Assault passive (~60mil SWK procs) with spamming Mantra of Healing(-Circular breathing) while taking use of MoH's shield. This spec is built on mass spirit regen and quite slow movement through rifts.
@OP:
I prefer my SWK with Madstone + FoA + Borns & Captns with mass CDR everywhere (Vigilante belt also).
spec, adding Relentless Assault + Determination as passives. SSS can also use the 14s-rune.
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