I can't even find a reasonable way to compare the items in terms of a "which is better?" manner.Quote from BandytoThese games are hardly comparable.
Each game takes a completely different approach to loot. WoWs loot wouldn't work in D3. D3s loot wouldn't work in wow. Both systems are "right" for each game's respective genre.
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1000 Caches of Data
Back Story:
I'm Crusader and I'm a streamer over on twitch. Here's a link to the stream: http://www.twitch.tv/cultistsofscorpitox To explain a little bit about the stream for those that do want to come hang out we are a multibroadcaster stream meaning we have 5 uniques players that are part of the broadcast. Myself, Davidson, Andrew, Skydriver, and Majarcus. Anyway enough about the stream.One week ago we decided to do our usual restock of rift key stones and like many others we decided to save up a few bags. As we progressed we remembered a video from here of someone opening 170 act 1 caches. This gave us an idea.
We decided collectively over 4 players to collect 1000 caches. We are collected the caches from acts 1-4 on normal. We intended to do these bags on torment but realized that 1000 bags is quite a few and went with normal instead.
All this was posted on my previous thread here: http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-iii-general-forums/diablo-iii-general-discussion/89236-1000-caches
The Data:
This project took us about 6 days at 4 hours a day of constant farming a total of aproximately 24 hours to acquire 1000 caches. As previously stated all we did acts 1-4 but were very heavily doing act 1 3 and 4 and occasionally 2. We gathered as much information as we possibly could.Legendaries:
After opening all 1000 caches collectively as a group we received 97 legendary drops. These drops are both cache specific and non-cache specific legendaries. So based on our sample size of 1000 normal caches you have a 9.7% of receiving a legendary of some sort. Me personally expected a much lower number but the numbers support it.Cache Specific Legandaries:
This is number we wanted to know from the very beginning. What is the % chance for a cache specific legendary from a bounty bag? In 1000 bags we recieved 78 cache specific legendaries. This gave us a number of about 7.8% chance per cache to recieve a cache specfic legendary.You are probably wondering what we got of these well your in luck. We kept track of that as well.
- Avarice Band: 2
- Boots of Disregard: 7
- Burst of Wrath: 4
- Cloak of Deception: 7
- Coven's Criterion: 2
- Death's Bargain: 0
- Envious Blade: 3
- Gloves of Worship: 2
- Golden Gorget of Leoric: 6
- Helltrapper: 0
- Ilusory Boots: 2
- Insatiable Belt: 4
- Mad Monarch's Scepter: 8
- Overwhelming Desire: 7
- Pandemonium Loop: 1
- Pauldrons of the Skeleton King: 7
- Pride's Fall: 1
- Ring of Royal Grandeur: 4
- Salvation: 3
- Sanguinary Vambraces: 6
- Soulsmasher: 2
After seeing these drops we began to realize that not only world drops have weighted numbers applied to there drop rates but cache legendaries do a well. Items such as the Mad Monarch's Scepter are much more common that items such as the RoRG. This should be taken with a grain of salt this is just based on our sample size.Crafting Materials:
We made sure to not keep track of the legendaries but everything else we possibly could as well. Note for Crafting materials we salvaged all rare and magic items before counting the craft mats.- Arcane Dust: A total of 2785 were collected making the average of receiving them 2.785 per cache
- Veiled Crystal: A total of 1903 were collected making the average amount per cache 1.903
- Reusable Parts: A total of 3268 were collected making the average amount per cache 3.268
With these numbers simply put, you should receive approximately 3 arcane dust 2 veiled crystals and 3-4 reusable partsGems:
Gems were interesting as we collected the data it initially seems like amethysts were the top dog but we continued to keep adding them together and found that you have ~50% chance to receive 1 gem. No matter what class you are playing you dont recive any more or any less of any one gem. Here are the numbers.- Ruby: 511
- Amethyst: 588
- Diamond: 529
- Emeralds: 526
- Topaz: 535
All though the for Amethysts we did in fact receive them the most it was by such a marginal amount it leads us to believe that gems have no weighting in caches.Blood Shards:
Some interesting things came out this number although we expected alot more than we received looking back we realized something that we hadn't before. This may be common knowledge but to us it was new information, The Difficulty you do the bounties on affects the number of blood shards you recieve. We only received 2.586 blood shards per cache.Video:
We wouldn't do you guys justice opening 1000 caches without you being able to watch it happen. So, I made sure to highlight the VOD of us opening them.http://www.twitch.tv/cultistsofscorpitox/c/4466848
I do want to say this we do consider ourselves an 18+ stream so any language used by us will be considered for adult ears
Spreadsheet:
Now another thing that wouldn't be fair is if we put all this data in a thread with out compiling it in to one place so we made a spreadsheet as well.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlN0xxYht-VkdFhFTlVpLUJ1OU96VFhEMHhoTGIza3c&usp=sharing
I do want to say this this took a ton of effort and me and my friends started to go insane gathering this much information for you all. so all I ask if you found this information useful do us a favor and stop by the stream http://www.twitch.tv/cultistsofscorpitox/ and say what's up
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Horadric Caches Opened: 1000
Number of 'Normal' Legendaries: 17
Number of Bounty-Only Legendaries: 79
Number of Torment-Only Legendaries: 0
All information needed with to prevent any assumption of troll data here:http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-iii-general-forums/diablo-iii-general-discussion/89415-1000-caches-worth-of-data
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Well Im Crusader and I have this....stream twitch.tv/cultistsofscorpitox now but before you stop reading hear me out. Im simply stating why this is happening why we are doing what we are doing. To explain a little bit about the stream for those that do want to come hang out we are a multibroadcaster stream meaning we have 5 uniques players that are part of the broadcast. Myself, Davidson, Andrew, Skydriver, and Majarcus. Anyway enough about the stream.
The otherday we decided to do our usual restock of rift key stones and like many others we decided to save up a few bags. As we progressed we remembered a video from here of someone opening 170 act 1 caches. This gave us an idea.
We decided collectively over 4 players to collect 1000 caches. Our Current progress is at 159 caches. We are collecting the caches from acts 1-4 on normal. We intended to do these bags on torment but realized that 1000 bags is quite a few and went with normal instead.
Now since I shamelessly plugged my stream I should probably give the community here on diablo fans something in return. That something is the data. My question for you all is what do you want us to track?
On a side note we have decided that all the loot and data we collect will only come from the caches themselves.
Here are some of our ideas of data to collect:
- Number of legendaries
- Number of Gems and How many of each type
- Of the legendaries collected how many were cache only and how many were not
- Number of bloodshards total
- Average Number of Bloodshards per bag based on a 1000 bag sample
- After salvaging all Rares and Magic item the total number of veiled crystals and arcane dust
- Average Number of arcane dust and veiled crystals per bag based on a 1000 bag sample
If there is anything else you guys would like us to keep track of souley based on the collected caches let us know.Current Count: 817
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