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Now show me a Rolands build that's using a 3993 DPS Fate of the Fell. You can't compete, I'm getting more DPS out of my weapon then you are gaining with 100% attack speed.

I have the entire set twice over, nearly 3 times over and some pieces 5 times over. I have Ak's too. I compared them.

I have a heartslaughter with 3500 damage and 29% physical. Rolands sucks.

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I'm glad this is catching on, because Shock Pulse - Piercing Orb is absolutely bonkers with a Shard of Hate, Odyn Son, or TF equipped. So good, in fact, that you don't even need a spender. The build works very well with either maxed out CDR or Tal's (sadly you can't have both) in T4+

I am a firm believer that Odyn is BiS though, as it's the best proc for single target DPS in game, which is the builds only weak spot. If you play with Arcane Orb, you have some of the best stacking AOE/trashclear dps in game, and Odyn melts packs/RG's with ease. That said, Shard of Hate has a ludicrous proc rate with Shock Pulse, and is hands down the best clearing weapon available to the spec. Honestly it might even be bugged, because it reminds me of how often the proc would trigger alongside WW back when it was glitching.

Also, in party play, swapping Blur for Paralysis is bonkers for utility/survivability. Alongside Exposure, and to a lesser extent Slow Time, you actually bring a lot to the table in groups other then just raw DPS.

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Quote from vanillacape

In 2.0.5, when you use Shattering, you're splitting your 1 big shield into 3 smaller shields that ping around. With Combust, your shield hits the first target and then remains as a big strong shield that smashes into many more targets after that, each one with a chance at a decent aoe explosion (that does more aoe damage than shatters do single target.) I think that Shattering is funny, but I can't find any situation in which it is actually better than Combust. You don't get the screen filling madness because everything has already exploded.

Other benefits include fantastic AC synergy with Fire Starter, fast horsey becoming a surprisingly damaging attack (as well as transport and ohsht button.) You even get great synergy with Punish:Roar if you're a masochist and want to melee things instead of flinging shields (to be fair I do still wind up in melee a lot because it's just faster so someone might like the counterattack.)

The only thing fire doesn't really have is a good secondary single target spell. I've been bouncing between the holy beam of death + cause and bowmen (phys but 20% dmg with short mount speed) but it would be even better with fire archers (why are there no fire archers?) Obviously holy has really really good synergies too, but fire isn't lacking right now.

Also there is way more fire gear available than holy (although this becomes a bit moot if you switch to 6pc, since it kills 2-3 20% fire slots.) (Thank you Blizzard design team for not understanding how your own itemisation works -.-) Obviously it depends on what gear you have, but if you have a ton of fire gear, Combust is in no way "bad".

I thought that was what was meant to happen with Combust, but even if stuff was still alive I did not get the same amount of bounces when using combust even with a +6 Jek, whereas shattering was far more ready to ricochet and improved my clearing times in those situations even though I was using far more +fire than +holy gear. I'm not saying combust is bad by any stretch of the imagination, it is a clearly superior rune under normal circumstances, but I just don't think it takes full advantage of a Jek.

As far as Phalanx not having a fire option, it doesn't have any elemental damage, it might just be the case that blizzard didn't want people to feel forced into using a particular one depending on their choice of element. A more reasonable complaint might be HF not having different elemental options, but if you are looking for a fire attack, having you considered falling sword as it has a fire rune, gives you another mobility option and had a decent damage buff in the last patch.

As far as having to give up fire gear if you want to use the 6pc bonus, this is not a case of blizzard not understanding itemisation so much as you having to make choices between the two gearing styles and not be able to expect everything to slot together exactly as you'd like as otherwise the eventual endgame gearing of every crusader would end up being the same for everyone which is something they have said they wanted to avoid in the past.

One under-rated bonus to going holy despite less +holy gear would be all the extra healing you get from holy cause.

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I'm using the Gryf/Jek combo (~2200dps version, 4rico shield) with a pure fire build (all fire items sans helm + aug) thinking about swapping to holy once I have 6pc, but so far holy has looked really underwhelming compared to combust's aoe.

I find that you just don't get the screen-filling madness of the holy rune when you switch to combust and I think that using that rune would be a waste of that shield.

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The top result of that google search is from 2012. It is entirely probably that the coefficients have changed since then. I'm also curious what the most up-to-date list may be.