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    posted a message on QuinFans ???
    Quote from reh



    In the end we all know that Quin didn't invent that build. Neither did Philos. Neither did Wudijo. Neither did it the person from Anthony's group. It was a random guy from China nobody knows.

    Quote from Gromralgo-next

    Also this whole build thing is fucked anyways - if i find out about the most OP build ever and put it on dfans, someone who is "famous" will take it an sell it as its own (maybe he will mention me) but in the end its his build that gets upvoted just because he has his fans and even i personally trust the builds more if i read "oh thats from chainer/quin/alk/phil etc." than if i've never heard from whoever made the build.

    Thats just how it is in diablo, someone finds a build and the big guys make it popular.
    But somehow some people realize it just now and we have this threat here ;)
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    posted a message on QuinFans ???
    Quote from Psyborggo-next

    Quote from rehgo-next

    It even links to Philo's build. Linking to a build is quiiiite different than copying & pasting a build, isn't it? :)




    The copy paste includes the Build Link of DFans of course, since it is copied... Where is the reference about Philo again? Oh nowhere...


    Maybe


    [S6] GR80-100+ LoN FoK GR Build

    by philosophios


    there.


    But i'm sure since the argument was "he could just link phils build" the new argument will be he didn't write

    "THE DH BUILDS ARE BY PHIL"

    somewhere into the guide.

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    posted a message on QuinFans ???
    Quote from reh
    I didn't even notice that ... now i'm looking forward for what bullshit will come next :)
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    posted a message on QuinFans ???
    Quote from Dark_Sol



    A couple
    1) Quin was favored above everyone else (i don't care much about it, but many others do care)
    2) Quin basically stole and copypasted a lot of builds and used them under HIS name. Now this is problem for me.
    He could just link to other ppl builds instead.

    It was like "Ok thank you guys. Now let me copypaste your builds and make them mine"



    1) it may favour Quin but on the other hand it's what is "best for business" for Dfans i think because Quin is the most known streamer and it's one thing to have his name there than someone half of the people who visit the site has never heard of.


    2) if the people gave permission to Quin there is no problem either. You may think its stupid of them but that doesnt matter, if the people who made the build don't care, why do you?


    Also this whole build thing is fucked anyways - if i find out about the most OP build ever and put it on dfans, someone who is "famous" will take it an sell it as its own (maybe he will mention me) but in the end its his build that gets upvoted just because he has his fans and even i personally trust the builds more if i read "oh thats from chainer/quin/alk/phil etc." than if i've never heard from whoever made the build.

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    posted a message on QuinFans ???
    Quote from Psyborggo-next

    Quote from Gromralgo-next

    Quote from Dark_Sol


    Well, then philos is somewhat dumb i think. He just gave all his hard work to the richest and famous streamer Quin, for free. How modest is that.. oh my gawd. But wait.. now he has the BLESSING to play with Quin himself! This explains everything! :) So you have to donate a build to Quin and then you will MAYBE be allowed to play with him for a couple of hours.. maybe even days! oh my oh my.




    The sarcasm is strong in this one.
    Also nice job ignoring the benefits of Quin sending people to phil. I guess your opinion is made anyways and even the best tennis player can't win against a wall, so have a nice day.



    That is completely BS, the compilation of the builds is so bad that there is no link or anything written about Philosophios.

    "LoN Fan of Knives – GR Solo

    This build is probably the build with the highest skill ceiling to
    date. It is based around staying at low health, and nothing for people
    with heart issues. It features a highly mobile playstyle with a
    nuke-like ability that can eradicate an entire screens worth of enemies
    when used correctly. This will probably end up being the top solo GR
    builds for Demon Hunters"


    0 reference to Philo, just the copy pasted build of his

    "Support Demon Hunter – GR Group

    Demon Hunters can also play support. People say it can compete with
    Support Witch Doctors, however, that makes no sense mathematically. If
    you are playing with your friends and do not care for rank 1, this is a
    fun build to pick up and support your group with"


    0 reference to Philo, just again the copy pasted build of his


    From his stream yesterday and about any other time somethin about DH gets asked "if you have questions about the DH go to phil's stream" and yesterday "come one phil start streaming, many people in my chat want the Support DH viewpoint"


    And i think it's safe to say if they don't come to his stream after using the guides they wouldn't have gone to phils stream either if it was his guide / there was a link to his stream.

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    posted a message on QuinFans ???
    Quote from Dark_Solgo-next


    Quote from Psyborggo-next


    no-one else has made a comprehensive guide for all classes for Season 6 on DF...







    Anyone can make such guides, just play 1 class and copy paste builds from others. Hell even I can do that.. This seemed to happen here
    The Guides should be something like this : "DH Guides from Philosophios, Wudijo etc." "Monk guides from Quin etc."





    But the point is no-one made a comprehensive guide for all classes for season 6, if you or I did it all on DF then it would be your name on the tab for the guides...Quin simply took the time to do it first...even if the guides are not all his work he collectively put them together for a player...



    Wrong, did you read what admin wrote?
    "However, the S6 guides in the nav bar are not part of that deal and Quin didn't ask us for this either. We approached him in the matter."
    they approached Quin on purpose. It was their initiative from the beginning. So if i understand correctly they asked Quin to write the whole s6 guide and he did that. Some people linked him to working builds, philos linked him to his DH builds.. he stole some wd builds and here we go. No brainer S6 guide ready. Everyone could do that, seriously.

    And the problem about that is what?
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    posted a message on QuinFans ???
    Quote from Dark_Sol


    Well, then philos is somewhat dumb i think. He just gave all his hard work to the richest and famous streamer Quin, for free. How modest is that.. oh my gawd. But wait.. now he has the BLESSING to play with Quin himself! This explains everything! :) So you have to donate a build to Quin and then you will MAYBE be allowed to play with him for a couple of hours.. maybe even days! oh my oh my.
    The sarcasm is strong in this one.
    Also nice job ignoring the benefits of Quin sending people to phil. I guess your opinion is made anyways and even the best tennis player can't win against a wall, so have a nice day.
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    posted a message on QuinFans ???
    Quote from Dark_Solgo-next

    Quote from Psyborggo-next

    Dark_Sol, you triggered me to check his DH builds since I know DH better than the rest of the classes and you know what i found?


    Quin's DH builds are COPY PASTED from Philosophios builds! Are we freaking serious here?



    Well, even if philos gave him OK to use this builds, this still isn't fair. I mean.. richest become richer. When poor are still poor.

    Maybe you should let the people who made the builds decide if it is fair for Quin to use them ... i watched Quin yesterday and Philos encouraged Quin to update his DH stuff and copy from him.


    Also if you watch Quin and he gets asked a question about DH then he sends people to Philos, so i don't really get what the problem is ... Quin never said he made all the builds by himself and in this example Phil has no problem with Quin using his builds ... so i don't get why everyone is freaking out.

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    posted a message on Is there attack speed cap in diablo 3?

    There is one at 5 aps in your character sheet.

    Things that multipliy the attackspeed of a certain skill (like the rainment 2pc for 25% generator as) still work but attackspeed on gear (or pain enhancer buff or flying dragon buff) becomes useless.

    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on A helm transmog. My unexpected dissapointment of path 2.4...

    You can get a hood model from the other new dh helm i think.

    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/visage-of-gunes

    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on How much has Blizz nerfed drop/crafting ?

    Wat?

    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on No love for Akkhan?

    The main Problem with Akkhan is survivability just compared to Invoker Akkhan has AC and Unity, Invoker has the new Ring with Block, Aquila Cuirras, the invoker 4pc, a huge uptime on Iron Skin and also on AC with the shield that reduces CD on block and also Unity (which is not even that important). Also Akkhan needs high CDR as well as CC and CHD, Invoker just need IAS and CDR so you have more room for defensive stats.


    With Akkhan i had problems surviving in greater rifts in the low 60s.

    Posted in: Crusader: The Church of Zakarum
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    posted a message on Follower sets, should we have them? Do you want them?

    If i am honest i'd rather run around without follower at all ... at least in this season it was such a pain in the ass to always position the mobs next to the follower so you dont have half of the pack on you and half on the follower who stands one screen away. Or some option like "always run next to me before you do something" for the follower.

    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on Tool for usable Legendaries

    As far as i know there is no such list, and even if there was it would be incredibly long if you wanted to include every build that is viable, or could be viable again after a patch.


    Generally speaking you can definitly salvage everything that has no legendary effect, and most weapons that have just a damage procc as effect.


    So if your Profile is correct and you are playing monk, so right now you should keep all the sets (if you have pieces more than once you can transmute them into other pieces in the cube or just keep the ones with better rolls) and the Shenlong Weapons, Fist of Az, Lions Claw, Flying Dragon, Furnace, Focus and Restraint, Convention of Elements, Unity, Thundergods Vigor, String of Ears, Witching Hour, Spirit Guards, Gungdo Gear, Eye of Pershakov, Eye of the Storm ... that is just the viable items that i remember just now. Also for the next patch there are changes to many items so it might be good to keep them too, but i'd need to read the patchnotes again to tell you which to keep.

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    posted a message on The Rebirth of Pony Express

    I don't think it will be better than condemn - so i always had the feeling back in season 1 that condemn and pony both are about equal. Now according to the patchnotes condemn gets (with perfect rolls) 300% more damage from weapon+shield and phalanx gets 120% damage from shield+helmet. Also with stricken the difference between both on the RG won't be that big anymore.

    That being said i never played pony because it just fucks up everything in groups with the knockback so i am no expert and maybe i'm overlooking something.

    Shotgun will be interesting too with the stricken-like shield.

    Posted in: Crusader: The Church of Zakarum
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