Diablo 3 - Console or PC Game?
The new Console Discussion forum over at Battle.net brought a lot of arguments with its very existence. Because of the huge marketing focus on the console version right now, some players started to wonder if Diablo III on consoles was Blizzard's dream all along. But, as it is clearly stated, the two version have pretty separate lives, goals and development.
[blizzquote author='Blizzard' battle='http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7617402153#6']Both versions are adapted to their platforms.
Very much this!
rofl, great excuse for being lazy
I am not sure I follow your logic, so it could be great if you would elaborate on why or how you think we are being lazy :-)
To me it is anything but lazy to properly adapt the game for each platform it is released on, with things like specifically developed user interfaces, cameras, and controls optimised for delivering the best gameplay experience possible no matter if you are sitting on a couch playing in front of a TV using a controller, or sitting on an office chair playing in front of a monitor using a mouse and keyboard.
Had we just been porting the game copy-paste style without paying any attention to the fact that different platforms are in fact different, then I would agree with you that we were being lazy.
My guess would be that it was about the comment being too simple, rather than the idea.
If that is what he meant, then in retrospect I can certainly agree that I could have posted a more elaborate comment.
The expansion pack for Diablo 3 hasn't even been announced yet and you're only releasing like one minor patch every second or third month. I don't think you're lazy but I think you take way too long to make decisions for your games. If you're not so creative to come up with something new that will keep the game fun for your community then you should hire some more devs, there has been so many great threads on these forums with suggestions and none of them as been added to the game, only Kripparrians "Champion Levels" aka Paragon Levels. Waiting almost 2 years just for an announcement for a expansion pack to such a short game like Diablo 3 that didn't deliver up to it's hype and promises is really bad for a big company like Blizzard. I understand you want the game to be as close to perfect as possible but waiting so much time for those small extra improvements are just not worth it. I love the game and the effort you putted into it although a lot of things went wrong it's still a good game... disappointing, but good. The game has been improved since it's launch but it's still far from the Diablo game I thought I was buying and I know I'm not the only Diablo fan with this opinion, everyone I know IRL has the same thoughts. I'm almost Paragon 100 and I honestly can't see any reason to keep playing after this, and I've just been taking a long 6 months break from the game so I really don't want to quit again already. I'm not writing this to bash you, but because I love Diablo so much it's just painful to wait so long, especially when you know that the expansion pack might not even be what I'm looking for. I know I've been negative in some of my posts on these forums but it has all been because I have a lot of passion for the game and I really want it to be great, and I think you're the only game development company out there who can come up with a quality Action-RPG title.
There is not much I can say to this, except that I totally hear you. We know it can be frustrating that we aren't releasing patches at a faster rate, but we do not want to rush things as we want to make sure that Diablo III will be the game that you guys deserve. I want you to know that we truly appreciate your passion, and we are happy to see you and others express that passion in ways that helps us to better understand what you like and don't like about the game.
Teleporting to Town While Sharing a Screen on the PS3
Grimiku explains how Town Portal works when sharing a screen on console.
[blizzquote author='Blizzard' battle='http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9281828262#2']Will you be able to player with 2 or more at the same time on the same console.
Yes, you will be able to play with up to 4 players on the same console, and same screen. You'll also be able to quickly jump in and out of a game that's currently in session, just like you can for PC.
How will a player be able to port to town? Four ppl sitting on a couch, one ports to town...how does that work on the screen? Do I drag everyone with me to town?
That's a good question, and I hunted down an answer for you! If someone cast town portal while you're in a multiplayer game on a single console, then everyone in the local coop party goes back to town. If you're playing a multiplayer game online, however, town portal will just send the caster back.
Pretty close...how about what was advertised? Two players on the couch add two randoms from online, so a party of 4. I read your answer as...major grief...in a fight with big pack, my buddy on the couch opens a portal and me, sitting next to him, and the buddy go back to town leaving the two to fight alone. Or how about 3 on the couch...1 poor soul online. Wow..he's screwed.
I edited my original post after reading your comment to clarify how town portal works in situations where local coop is combined with online multiplayer. You're correct on how it works, regarding the local coop players porting back to town while leaving the others in the field. There is some griefing potential there, but we think the usefulness of this feature outweighs the risk.
Targeting With a Controller
Everyone knows playing with a console controller is very different than playing with a mouse. For a game like Diablo III it's even a little worrying trying to imagine how spells would be cast at a certain direction and affect a particular spot on the field. Thankfully, Grimiku provides an answer.
[blizzquote author='Blizzard' battle='http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9281268343#2']This was something I was, personally, very curious about, and genuinely surprised when I discovered how easy precise skill execution is with the controller. A lot of the skills in the console version were specially tuned for controller support, and skills will automatically center on whatever monster you have targeted, or fire off in the direction your hero is facing if you don’t have a monster targeted. On that note, you can hold L2 (PS3) or Left Trigger (Xbox 360) to lock on to your target for those situations that you want to be able to freely maneuver while keeping your eye on the enemy.
Details on Xbox 360 Co-Op
Playing Co-op on the XBox 360 requires a few specific steps to follow.
[blizzquote author='Blizzard' battle='http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9281758552#4']Each player will need a profile in order to play on the Xbox 360 (all of these profiles can be from the same machine, or not). Silver and Gold accounts can download their profile (and character save) from cloud storage, but Silver accounts will need an external storage device to save any progress they make when they're playing on a friends console. Gold accounts will have the additional option of cloud storage to save their characters. I'll have to ask around to make sure that multiple Silver profiles on one machine can save to its hard drive, but I'll update this thread when I find out.
It really sounds like the console version is going to be a lot more fun to play. Every class having a quick dodge sounds fun, being able to "lock onto" an enemy and strafe around them sounds fun, no AH sounds fun, better droprates and *whites turning into gold automatically* sounds fun.
I hope they bring these features to the PC because I don't want to have to buy this game again just to play a more fun version.
Hello Chelate. Does people cheating and getting done with the game in 2 hours sound fun? How about people that die on hardcore then just reupload the toon over a USB as much as they want. Does that sound fun? How about some pvp? Oh wait now you can strafe around people like in WoW so instead of skill playing a major part it just comes down to how good you are at being cheap. Does getting pwned over and over sound fun too? Yeah i dont think so.
The only thing good is that you can promise that stuff such as better drops whites to gold will all come to the PC, Both games are going to end up being the samething. Console is not going to get anything over PC and vice visa. Folks at blizzard even talked about making the boss fights on PC like the console verson when they plan to update them.
Hello Chelate. Does people cheating and getting done with the game in 2 hours sound fun? How about people that die on hardcore then just reupload the toon over a USB as much as they want. Does that sound fun?
Why do I give a damn what other people do with their characters? If the system isn't going to stop people from hacking their characters then that's on them, but it has no affect on me.
How about some pvp? Oh wait now you can strafe around people like in WoW so instead of skill playing a major part it just comes down to how good you are at being cheap. Does getting pwned over and over sound fun too? Yeah i dont think so.
Soooo "skilled pvp" to you is standing still facing each other and mashing buttons? Who cares, you have to be crazy to pvp in a game that doesn't have server stored characters precisely because of the possibility and probability of some kind of hacking.