The PVP Blog Is Here

  • #1
    PVP Blog Is Here
    This is not a crazy work day dream, the PVP Blog is really here!

    Big News:
    • Dueling is scheduled for patch 1.0.7
    • Team Deathmatch is going back to the drawing board for a replacement, we wont be seeing this for a long time.

    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

    We've been working really hard on the features, content, and systems for PvP in Diablo III and I wanted to take some time to provide an update on where we're at. Of course, our goal has been to release our Team Deathmatch mode as soon as possible, but we don't want to put anything out there before it's ready. Right now, Team Deathmatch isn't yet where we want it to be, and I want to provide some insight into where we are at in the development process.

    The State of PvP

    Our original intent with PvP for Diablo III was to provide more formal support for the dueling community that existed in Diablo II. We wanted to give players some kind of structure that would not only make it easier for you to duel with one another, but also allow you to have duels that were team-based. This is how our Team Deathmatch mode emerged, and it's been instrumental in making a lot of improvements to Diablo III. But in continuing to develop this mode, playtest it, and put it in front of other developers within the company, we've found that it falls short of our expectations for a high-quality Blizzard experience.

    Putting people into an arena and letting them hurl fireballs and swing crazy-ass swords at one another always has an element of fun to it. I imagine it's no surprise to anyone reading this blog that people like battling each other in video games, so if you had the chance to play our Team Deathmatch at one of the BlizzCons where we featured it you might not understand why we'd say that we don’t feel the current mode is good enough.

    Well, Here's Why…

    For us it comes to a few issues, one of which is depth. Simply fighting each other with no other objectives or choices to make gets old relatively quickly. We've brought a lot of people in to try out Team Deathmatch and, while some found it entertaining, most of our testers didn't feel like it was something they'd want to do beyond a few hours. Without more varied objectives, or very lucrative rewards, few saw our current iteration as something they'd want spend a lot of time in.

    Another is class balance. Like Diablo II, Diablo III was designed to be a PvE-first kind of game, where we never compromised on player abilities in the name of future PvP balance. We want to be able to carry over as many of the crazy runes, items, and skills as possible, with their crazy effects, and alter them as little as possible. In a casual PvP mode, something equivalent to a WoW Battleground, this would be fine, but Team Deathmatch felt very hardcore, and it put a laser focus on class balance in a way that we didn’t think would be good for the game as a whole.

    Certainly, we've gotten a lot of benefits from the development of Team Deathmatch, especially in the areas of controls and combat model tuning, but at this point we don't believe it's the experience we feel it needs to be in order to ship, so we will be shelving it for now and exploring other options.

    What's Next

    So, our core problem is that our Team Deathmatch mode doesn't feel like a great addition to Diablo III. It's not up to the quality that Blizzard gamers expect or that we feel you deserve, and it doesn't really fit with our goals for the rest of the game. The question now is what are we going to do about it?

    First and foremost, if our original goal was to support dueling, then we're not achieving that goal very well if we don’t actually give players a way to duel in-game. You’ve been asking us for dueling for a while, so we're going to add it to the game soon. Dueling is currently scheduled to release with patch 1.0.7, which is set to hit sometime after the new year. (We'll be providing details about that feature very soon, so stay tuned.)
    But as I mentioned before, we are going back to the drawing board on a new replacement for Team Deathmatch, something that feels more appropriate for Diablo III. And as we stated previously, regardless of when we release it, it'll be a free addition to the game. Team Deathmatch provided us with the foundation that we needed and served us well. Hell, it may even still be added in some form in the future. For now, though, we're going to first be looking at new modes that play up to the strengths of the character classes, focus on objectives beyond just defeating other players, and possibly even integrate PvE elements and rewards.

    Keepin' It Real

    We wanted to be upfront and honest with the community about where this particular project is at. It's certainly not ideal, and I know some of you got to play Team Deathmatch at BlizzCon and are probably thinking, "It seemed good enough! Just give us that." I also know how I feel whenever a game or game feature I'm looking forward to is delayed, but, as with all things Blizzard, we want to be sure that the features we add to Diablo III are actually worth it and will make the game better, and PvP is no exception.
    While we don't have any further information to share right now about our plans for additional PvP modes, we look forward to posting more about dueling in the next few days.
  • #2
    LOL! Nearly a year late ... to tell us it's not coming ...
  • #3
    Looks like PoE it is
  • #4
    Dueling rules! Expected much more to be announced though... Well, let's wait until the "next few days" come.
  • #5
    Shameful. Double shame for waiting till AFTER XMAS to break the news you already knew. Just another attempt to milk it, cant say I blame them, but i can blame the people that will drop the game forever after this either.
  • #6
    This is not a PvP blog, this is an excuse written in blue text.
  • #7
    PVP BLOG = dueling is coming 1.0.7 ...
    change it to dueling blog!!!
  • #8
    Ha ha ha. Seriously funny.

    So they took 7 months to come to the conclusion that DM dueling was a failure and they are starting all over again?

    And dueling? That should have been implemented on Day1 of game's release.
    You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
  • #9
    Well, this is gonna get ugly.

    Honestly I think it's good news that they understand the problems with Team Deathmatch. It wouldn't have been fun for long, enthusiasm for it was always lukewarm. The bad news is that they're obviously still nowhere near implementing proper PvP(i.e. a DotA-style mode). I just wish they had realized this from the start.
  • #10
    Bring on the dueling! Can't wait to beat my brother's chars and collect he's ears.
  • #11
    Huh huh HUh Huh.
  • #12
    Really cool that duelling soon is available, but it's a shame with Team Deathmatch, I think it had potential and if it would get boring in the long run they in the mean while think of more options for PvP in the game. But that's just my view at it.
  • #13
    omg dueling yay!!! /sarcasm off i was never a dueler in Diablo 2 i didn't see the point and it isn't something I'm interested in for Diablo 3.
  • #14
    rofl what a blog post...the fact it took them this long to basically write an excuse and not a blog is a joke. They basically just spit in the faces of all the people who paid for the game.

    "Well our idea we've been working on all this time didn't do very well , so we're scrapping it and just enabling 1v1 duels..thanks guys!"
  • #15
    Diablo III is really going towards the failed promises now.... What the F man Blizzard. You could just redo WoW battlegrounds into D3 and everyone will love it.
    The little boat gently drifted across the pond exactly the way a bowling ball wouldn’t...
  • #16
    I give up on this game .. PATH OF EXILE developers give more respect to there players . i advice you to play this game if you liked D2
  • #17
    "I promised Marko we'd have PvP, and now it's dead!" :QQ:
  • #18
    7 months of expectations of PVP arenas/deathmatch
    after 7 months getting just dueling, which should and also could have been since release
    after 7 months they say, they are starting all over again

    and they also call this a "PVP BLOG"!! really?! where is that PVP part?! Its an apologize post after so fkin long time!
    They could also been doin nothing since last patch and now just tell us they are starting all over again lol.
  • #19
    "All generalizations are false, including this one." -Mark Twain
  • #20
    Well at least we get Dueling. Thats a plus :) Hopefully it will hold over until actually PvP is implimented. for all your Trans Siberian Orchestra listening pleasure
    If you want to arrange it
    This world you can change it
    If we could somehow make this
    Christmas thing last

    By helping a neighbor
    Or even a stranger
    And to know who needs help
    You need only just ask

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