Introducing the Paragon System

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    Introducing the Paragon System
    It looks like the Paragon levels that we spotted a few days ago will be making their way into 1.0.4

    Update: We have a look at the EXP needed from level 1 to 100

    Also worth pointing out. Even with the patch files on the servers, and a long maintenance period Tuesday, at the bottom the text states: "Stay tuned to for the final patch notes and official launch announcement in the days ahead.". However, keep in mind these articles are also wrote well in advance before being posted.

    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

    While working on patch 1.0.4, we came up with all sorts of ideas for ways to improve Diablo III. Some of them you’ve probably already seen, such as the general systems changes, the awesome buffs for Legendaries, and the improvements we’re making to the barbarian, demon hunter, monk, witch doctor, and wizard. The entire team really banded together to get as much into this patch as possible, and one of the exciting changes I’d like to tell you about today is called the Paragon system.

    Two of the issues we’ve been thinking about while working on patch 1.0.4 have been what to do with Magic Find and how to give level-60 players who aren’t satisfied with the item hunt something more to strive for. I’m sure many of you are aware of the blog we posted proposing some different Magic Find gear-swapping solutions, as well as our general thoughts on how rewarding the game is once you hit level 60. The Paragon system is designed to help us address these concerns -- but before we get into exactly how it works, let’s go over these two core issues in a little more detail.

    Magic Find
    As you may remember, we posed a number of possible solutions to the gear-swapping issue and asked you to give us your feedback. While we saw some support for a couple of the options, what your responses ultimately told us was that although having to swap into Magic Find gear mid-fight annoyed some of you greatly, others were ambivalent, didn’t gear swap themselves, or -- in a few cases -- wanted to see gear-swappers penalized in some fashion. Those who do swap gear generally do so for the raw power advantage it gives, so we wanted any solution we went with to provide the same level of power. Overall, our analysis of the situation really hammered home one stark truth: we needed to come up with a way to make our Magic Find system more fun.

    Level 60 Rewards
    We understand that some players feel frustrated once they hit level 60 because they no longer feel like they’re making progress. It can be demoralizing to play for an hour, not get any drops, and also be out a big chunk of gold from repair costs. Your play session may not only end without an upgrade, it can wind up being a net loss. Everyone wants to feel like they’re making some progress when they log in, even if they don’t get that new sword.

    Introducing the Paragon System
    The new Paragon system coming in patch 1.0.4 is designed to address Magic Find gear-swapping while providing players who’ve reached level 60 with an extended progression system.
    Here’s how it works:
    • After you hit level 60, any further experience you earn from killing monsters will begin to count toward Paragon levels
    • There are 100 Paragon levels
    • Every Paragon level will reward you with:
      • Core stats such as Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, and Vitality in amounts similar to what you’d gain from a normal level
      • 3% Magic Find and 3% Gold Find
    • In addition, a distinctive increasingly-impressive border will surround your character portrait in the in-game party frame to denote your Paragon progression, with a new frame earned after every ten levels. Your Paragon level will also be visible to other players wherever your normal level is shown
    We know that a lot of you out there are level 60 -- maybe on multiple characters -- and this system provides a way to make progress every time you log in to the game.

    To support the new system, Nephalem Valor (NV) will now also provide a 15% experience bonus per stack, applicable toward Paragon levels. The first Paragon level should take about as long as it took most players to get from level 59 to 60, and the experience requirement will rise from there. The time to reach the upper Paragon levels approximates the long-term time investment required to get a level 99 character in Diablo II.

    … What Was That About Magic Find On Items?
    While the benefits to progression are obvious, you may be asking how this impacts Magic Find on items. We wanted to find a solution that was not only very forgiving of gear swapping, but one that would ultimately help us slowly and gently move Magic Find off of items in the future. It’s such an intrinsically important stat to the core purpose of playing the game that tying it to gear -- which is a customization system in many ways -- is ultimately an approach that would continue to cause problems. We need to transition away from it, and do so in a way that doesn’t flip the entire game end-over-end.

    With the Paragon system in place, we’re capping Magic Find and Gold Find to 300% (before Nephalem Valor). This means that without any Magic Find gear at all, you’ll hit the cap when you reach Paragon level 100. This way, you can continue wearing your current Magic Find gear as you slowly but surely work to gain Paragon levels. Eventually, once you hit Paragon level 100, you’ll have the freedom to completely focus every slot on stats that help your character kill stuff faster and stay alive longer. The idea is that if you’re currently swapping gear in and out for the Magic Find bonuses, you can continue to do so… but gain enough Paragon levels, and you won’t need to anymore.

    The Paragon system is a fairly big addition to the game, and one we’re pretty excited about. On behalf of the entire Diablo III development team, we hope you enjoy the changes we’re making with patch 1.0.4, and we look forward to seeing you in-game when it releases. Stay tuned to for the final patch notes and official launch announcement in the days ahead.

    Jay Wilson is Game Director for Diablo III, and his Necron army is WAY better than your Eldar army.
  • #2
    ... 100 additional lvls?

    *Memories of legit baal-running till 99...*
    -= Reelix =-
  • #3
    Yay, a reason to play.
  • #4
    So basically they want to remove MF from gear and they make a "transition"...


    Oh well, back to the drawing board.
  • #5
    Excited now. Want patch NOW! :)
    ☆ ✮ ✯
  • #6
    Man o man./
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    This patch IS gonna be big
  • #8
    "official launch announcement in the days ahead."

    so no patch this week. uninstalling.
  • #9
    This sounds really exciting. I may actually be back for this one.
  • #10
    i liked what i read until this part
    "With the Paragon system in place, we’re capping Magic Find and Gold Find to 300%"
  • #11
    I wonder if slapping that red gem in your helm would increase the XP rate here as well. I would imagine it does.
  • #12
    Paragon levels = awesome, I'm glad we get more powerful as we play more.

    Cap on MF though? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! That was the ONE thing that that majority of people agreed upon..... we DO NOT WANT A CAP TO MF. I'm extremely sad about this....
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    Quote from Nuvian

    i liked what i read until this part
    "With the Paragon system in place, we’re capping Magic Find and Gold Find to 300%"


    You'll still have 300 % ONTOP of the nephalem valor buff... which is 4x15%.... Mass MF aint a good thing, working hard to get mass mf is.
  • #14
    While I like the idea of the system, there are two points to this blog that I really see as bs:
    • MF will be capped.
    • MF will be removed on items over time.
    That's really so much Jay'ish...

    But one thing I currently am unanswered with: Will the previous MF effeciency be normalized to the new cap or will the cap just be put plain at 300% and it will work like it always have? Jay, I need an answer x)
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    Quote from quin0r

    "official launch announcement in the days ahead."

    so no patch this week. uninstalling.

    Don't forget that these blogs are written well in advance of when they're posted. There could still be a chance of it coming this week. The fact that two blogs were posted back to back already today almost makes me want to bet on it.
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    Quote from quin0r

    "official launch announcement in the days ahead."

    so no patch this week. uninstalling.

    Where did you see this quote? :S

    EDIT: nvm I found it xD damn!
  • #17
    I'm a bit torn on the removal of MF off items (long term) but my gutt, intitial recation is that its a good change. I like the idea of eventually being able to "Out Level" the need to wear magic find. In fact, I like that idea ALOT.

    Edit* I'm suprised at the addition of Core stats when you leve up - lets say you get 2 Dex per level.. thats 200 more Dex.. pretty huge amount!
  • #18
    Basically, the Paragon system is quite nice, more stats and mf while you lvl up, and it will take a while to reach 100.
    What i don't like is that they are putting a hard cap to MF, so now, when i lvl up i need to throw away my DPS/MF gear that i spent a quite amount of money on it....
  • #19
    super, 100 more levels to grind through....

    this is blizzards idea of "fixing" the end game, 100 levels of grinding, at a slower rate than 59-60?

    pure bs, color me dissapointed
  • #20
    I'm disturbingly excited about this. DO WANT! NOW!
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