After saying those words to Dave, the man who brought us our passion, you will never be widely accepted, Jay. Your PR excuses cannot hide your aggressive hateful nature.
he is merely a human, therefor even he has the right to every now and then blow of steam like he did. Nothing wrong with that and does not make you a ''hateful aggressive person''
Most of all it was on his PERSONAL facebook page FOR FUCKS SAKE!
I still remember post 2008 election posting a big ol "FUCK OBAMA"... on my facebook status....
Jay has bad aura. He works hard, but he's not a nice person. Same goes for Mike Morhaime.
LOL who the fuck cares if he is a nice person? Isn't it more important how our d3 game plays out instead of worrying about someone ( that we don't even know) character?
Paragon levels and now the idea of adding "players 8" command. Seems like Blizzard is listening to massive outcry of people upset who think D3 is garbage because it's not a copy and paste of D2. I think these are both welcomed changes but calling it now:
May 2012: Fuck Diablo 3. It's nothing like Diablo 2.
May 2013: Fuck Diablo 3. It's a copy and paste of Diablo 2 now.
Because he's the developer this community deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll find small issues and act personally offended by them, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight.
I've said plenty of things in anger, not usually in public though. They thought that conversation was private for some reason.
That was my reaction too. I've said far, far worse about former co-workers in private conversations. And I'd be mortified if what I thought was private turned out to be public. I don't use Facebook, though, so it seems I'm a lot less at risk of that happening than most of the human race.
He did so off clock hours and on facebook away from anything related to blizzard. How does that link in with the company? Is he NEVER allowed to express his opinion? Grow a pair and stop acting butthurt as if that comment affected you in any way. Bunch of pansies.
This is kind of pathetic isn't it? We are all human, but someone in Jay's position needs to refrain from acting so childish, and be a bit more cognisant of the weight his words carry. I mean really, on a public medium you're going to say something like that?
For those of you defending Jay, you really shouldn't be. This apology was necessary, and doley noted. And for those of you pointing fingers at this board for behaving similarly insinuating hypocrisy; you're being moronic. None of us get paid at the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop games. And lets not forget, we also still have our animity on these message boards; our real identity isn't attached.
So, what does this boil down to? Jay Wilson, used his personal facebook account, to go onto a public page to say "Fuck that loser" in regards to the creator of the Diablo franchise. Cool bro, real fuckin' cool.
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Paragon levels and now the idea of adding "players 8" command. Seems like Blizzard is listening to massive outcry of people upset who think D3 is garbage because it's not a copy and paste of D2. I think these are both welcomed changes but calling it now:
May 2012: Fuck Diablo 3. It's nothing like Diablo 2.
May 2012: Fuck Diablo 3. It's a copy and paste of Diablo 2 now.
May 2013: Fuck Diablo 3. It's nothing like Diablo 2.
May 2013: Fuck Diablo 3. It's a copy and paste of Diablo 2 now.
Never forget that at any given point in time, very large numbers of D3 players believe things that are the exact opposite of what very large numbers of other D3 players believe. Therefore, to the extent that it is Blizzard's goal to please some players, they will piss off others. Game design is the fucking Kobayashi Maru over and over and over.
I hope they finally delete the cancer that is the auction house.
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This appology/state of the game was pretty awesome.
1: More than just PvP coming in the next patch (endless mode?, some kind of challenge mode? who knows)
2: They recognize the "short circut" the AH has caused - I made a post a few days talking about why I hadted the AH and felt having millions of items at your finger tips was a bad thing - looks like they are on the same page.
Most importatnly, its nice to just hear they are still working - the game still needs alot of love
i have to say i honestly like this new "trying to be sincere and professional" Jay a hell of a lot more than the aloof "i'm so awesome cause i make diablo" Jay. If he keeps to this demeanor and shows the community the respect it deserves i might eventually be a convert.
Either way, this one gets a thumbs up from me, keep up the good work guys
Three interesting parts are highlighted below, but you should read the full thing for yourself to get the most information out of it!
And then when I decide to read the full blue comment, all that you've highlighted pretty much sums everything up in a nutshell (well Hear in this case).
But on another note, PLEASE I BEG PLEASE do not add the ability for us on this side to change difficulty level, that's what gear is for. If we can change the difficulty does that also alter the type of gear we get, I just don't see the logic in this train of thought.
Three interesting parts are highlighted below, but you should read the full thing for yourself to get the most information out of it!
And then when I decide to read the full blue comment, all that you've highlighted pretty much sums everything up in a nutshell (well Hear in this case).
But on another note, PLEASE I BEG PLEASE do not add the ability for us on this side to change difficulty level, that's what gear is for. If we can change the difficulty does that also alter the type of gear we get, I just don't see the logic in this train of thought.
I imagine that gear quality would scale also so perhaps you could make Inferno Act1 have the same difficulty as Act3/4 and likewise have the same loot quality ie greater chances of ilvl 63's and Legendary drops.
Dave called it like it is and has customer feedback to back it up. Jay couldn't be a man about it and instead acted like a 13 year old. You don't ever think anyone is awesome and a loser at the same time. If he just said "fuck that" then I'd understand but he made a personal remark about Dave with his "loser" addition and for that he's not getting a pass.
Should we dredge up people from this community's online comments and judge them the same way?
Because THAT would be far, FAR worse, don't ya think?
The community IS actually full of children (but not all, and you can certainly find plenty of adult comments that are respectful despite the generalization). Children are the largest demographic of gamers so, duh, most of them are going to be childish. Jay Wilson is obviously not a child but certainly acted like one. His facebook is going to be one of the very few ways to get a candid view of him and this is how he reveals himself when not behind PR like this letter. You don't get to be in a position of power like this where your position is owed to your customers when you can't handle yourself appropriately. There are plenty of Game Directors who don't have evidence of acting like this.
Sure he's allowed to say "fuck you" to someone. But if he's going to be dumb enough to say it to the creator of the franchise that gave him his fucking job, you better actually back your shit up (like Dave did). He didn't. Just a flippant statement like any kid would. Your job as a leader (and a Director is a leader of multiple leaders) is to set an example. When I get paid to do what he does and control huge franchises like that, you be sure to put me in my place if you catch me doing shit like that.
M rated game.
Average age every time a community poll comes up is 27-ish. (24-30 average demograph)
They aint children bud. They are sad, painfully obsessed, socially aberrant, keyboard warriors.
Case in point;
Lets take average Diablo 3 forum troll #45687 as an example.
Lets grab a weeks worth his of comments from the site.
Then show them publicly, to their family, their co workers, etc.
What do you think the reaction would be?
Yeah man, so Jay got pissed at his team getting slammed, thats NOTHING compared to the back and forth mudslinging several "un-named" companies practice on a weekly basis.
Its just something for the meme obsessed community to rant and rave about for weeks on end, they desperately cling to anything new to attempt (and fail) to spawn some form of wit.
I have literally lost respect for gamers as a whole due to the sheer quantity of morons that heaves and pupates under the thick and dank blanket of the inter-webs.
I imagine he was writing that during a lot of 1.04 development as they had realized the mark they missed prior to it.
Takes guts, he admits the game isn't the best and has flaws they want to fix it. That's ok in my book. We all know that team works hard and has put in far more hours than anyone's Barb/Wizard/Monk/WD/DH. Keep in mind rarely do developers disclose anything to their community.
To anyone who's played Mass Effect 3, look at the terse and poor handling of community outrage, and then compare it to D3. Blizzard has handled this situation and has delivered a decent product (though after the fact) and is continuing to improve.
Still not sure if I'll continue playing after this week though...
LOL who the fuck cares if he is a nice person? Isn't it more important how our d3 game plays out instead of worrying about someone ( that we don't even know) character?
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The tooltip specifically says "There is no cow level". It's all there, black and white, clear as crystal! YOU GET NOTHING! GOOD DAY, SIR!
May 2012: Fuck Diablo 3. It's nothing like Diablo 2.
May 2013: Fuck Diablo 3. It's a copy and paste of Diablo 2 now.
Girl, you know it's true.
That was my reaction too. I've said far, far worse about former co-workers in private conversations. And I'd be mortified if what I thought was private turned out to be public. I don't use Facebook, though, so it seems I'm a lot less at risk of that happening than most of the human race.
For those of you defending Jay, you really shouldn't be. This apology was necessary, and doley noted. And for those of you pointing fingers at this board for behaving similarly insinuating hypocrisy; you're being moronic. None of us get paid at the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop games. And lets not forget, we also still have our animity on these message boards; our real identity isn't attached.
So, what does this boil down to? Jay Wilson, used his personal facebook account, to go onto a public page to say "Fuck that loser" in regards to the creator of the Diablo franchise. Cool bro, real fuckin' cool.
Never forget that at any given point in time, very large numbers of D3 players believe things that are the exact opposite of what very large numbers of other D3 players believe. Therefore, to the extent that it is Blizzard's goal to please some players, they will piss off others. Game design is the fucking Kobayashi Maru over and over and over.
Mind you 1.04 is the sex at the moment.
This appology/state of the game was pretty awesome.
1: More than just PvP coming in the next patch (endless mode?, some kind of challenge mode? who knows)
2: They recognize the "short circut" the AH has caused - I made a post a few days talking about why I hadted the AH and felt having millions of items at your finger tips was a bad thing - looks like they are on the same page.
Most importatnly, its nice to just hear they are still working - the game still needs alot of love
Either way, this one gets a thumbs up from me, keep up the good work guys
I'll put you under the "Did not approve of 1.04" column, then.
Man, you always say:
And then when I decide to read the full blue comment, all that you've highlighted pretty much sums everything up in a nutshell (well Hear in this case).
But on another note, PLEASE I BEG PLEASE do not add the ability for us on this side to change difficulty level, that's what gear is for. If we can change the difficulty does that also alter the type of gear we get, I just don't see the logic in this train of thought.
I imagine that gear quality would scale also so perhaps you could make Inferno Act1 have the same difficulty as Act3/4 and likewise have the same loot quality ie greater chances of ilvl 63's and Legendary drops.
M rated game.
Average age every time a community poll comes up is 27-ish. (24-30 average demograph)
They aint children bud. They are sad, painfully obsessed, socially aberrant, keyboard warriors.
Case in point;
Lets take average Diablo 3 forum troll #45687 as an example.
Lets grab a weeks worth his of comments from the site.
Then show them publicly, to their family, their co workers, etc.
What do you think the reaction would be?
Yeah man, so Jay got pissed at his team getting slammed, thats NOTHING compared to the back and forth mudslinging several "un-named" companies practice on a weekly basis.
Its just something for the meme obsessed community to rant and rave about for weeks on end, they desperately cling to anything new to attempt (and fail) to spawn some form of wit.
I have literally lost respect for gamers as a whole due to the sheer quantity of morons that heaves and pupates under the thick and dank blanket of the inter-webs.
But hey, maybe its just me, amirite?
Takes guts, he admits the game isn't the best and has flaws they want to fix it. That's ok in my book. We all know that team works hard and has put in far more hours than anyone's Barb/Wizard/Monk/WD/DH. Keep in mind rarely do developers disclose anything to their community.
To anyone who's played Mass Effect 3, look at the terse and poor handling of community outrage, and then compare it to D3. Blizzard has handled this situation and has delivered a decent product (though after the fact) and is continuing to improve.
Still not sure if I'll continue playing after this week though...