ya ofc everything is an assumption cuz we didn't play diablo 3 and it's not the final version.
but now it's alot more clearer for me thx alot for ur time to explain that to me.
now i see how APS is always taking into account- even in a CD skill- plus even tho cyclone strike uses only main weapon that main weapon also has that extra 15% of his own ASP when i use duel-wield so there is some what a "bonus" effect to the cyclone strike when u use duel-wield :). so now i will also have another thing to take into consideration when i choose my weapon - rather it's duel-wielding, 1h and shield or 2h :D.
i wrote this post on a diffrent thread and i didn't get an answer to is...so i hope u can help me with this:
"i am not sure i get this new thing about duel wielding:
When dual-wielding, certain skills will now always use your main-hand weapon to determine damage
For example, Cyclone Strike will use your main-hand weapon damage even if your off-hand weapon is set to swing next
if i understand it correctly it means that only 1 weapon at a time will modify the dmg of the skill, so technically the only advantage u have with duel wielding is their speed and their stats, but not the fact u r holding 2 different weapons which have each their own dmg. and if thats the case than u better off with a 1 hand and shield cuz atleast than u have more armor while with dw u don't get extra dmg.
if any1 understand it differently or mayB know more about this - plz tell me. cuz if it's the way i think it is - it's a rly sad day for all the monk, barb and DH duel wielders.
"
if u guys already answer it...i apologize,,,guess my english comprehension isn't good as i thought .
thanks again,
Arrok
You quite don't understand how dual wielding works
I'll show you on example.
Lets say you're playing as barbarian, and you want to do Cleave three times. You're equipped with two weapons:
- your main hand has 20 dps
- your offhand has 5 dps
For the sake of simplicity lets assume 1.00 AS and no additional modifiers, I'm also disregarding attack speed buffs.
In this scenario:
- your main hand attack does 20 damage
- your offhand does 5 damage
- your average dps is 12.5 dps (this is what you'll see on character screen).
Beacuse of how you're switching weapon for every other attack, while dual wielding you'll see that:
- your first cleave will do 20 damage
- your second cleave will do 5 damage
- your third cleave will do 20 damage (and so on)
But for Cyclone Strike it would always be (disregarding damage modifier from the skill itself):
- your first Cyclone Strike does 20 damage
- your second Cyclone Strike does 20 damage
- your third Cyclone Strike does 20 damage
My guess is that every 'powerful' skill, with longish cooldown will be like that from now on. It is a good change though. It gives you some flexibility when it comes to weapon choosing. You will benefit from your offhand modifiers though (like dexterity etc).
And it maximizes your damage
I don't know how to explaing it more clearly.
yup i think u explained it rly good - so as long as there r some skills which use the speed of the duel wield and every hit is been made with a different weapon than thats fine....however( if i understand u correctly) when i use a skill with CD - which means speed doesn't affect it much, the dmg is according to ur main weapon - which for ur own good should be the weapon with the highest dmg between the 2 weapons to make it the most effective. so i see the case is that when it comes to skills with CD 2hand weapons is the better weapon to use. but on skills with no CD the balance between 2 hand and duel wield is fine :)( cuz than the speed is getting into account).
thanks alot for explaining it for me, i rly appreciate it and hopefully i understood what u wanted to say
i wrote this post on a diffrent thread and i didn't get an answer to is...so i hope u can help me with this:
"i am not sure i get this new thing about duel wielding:
When dual-wielding, certain skills will now always use your main-hand weapon to determine damage
For example, Cyclone Strike will use your main-hand weapon damage even if your off-hand weapon is set to swing next
if i understand it correctly it means that only 1 weapon at a time will modify the dmg of the skill, so technically the only advantage u have with duel wielding is their speed and their stats, but not the fact u r holding 2 different weapons which have each their own dmg. and if thats the case than u better off with a 1 hand and shield cuz atleast than u have more armor while with dw u don't get extra dmg.
if any1 understand it differently or mayB know more about this - plz tell me. cuz if it's the way i think it is - it's a rly sad day for all the monk, barb and DH duel wielders.
"
if u guys already answer it...i apologize,,,guess my english comprehension isn't good as i thought .
thanks again,
Arrok
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but now it's alot more clearer for me thx alot for ur time to explain that to me.
now i see how APS is always taking into account- even in a CD skill- plus even tho cyclone strike uses only main weapon that main weapon also has that extra 15% of his own ASP when i use duel-wield so there is some what a "bonus" effect to the cyclone strike when u use duel-wield :). so now i will also have another thing to take into consideration when i choose my weapon - rather it's duel-wielding, 1h and shield or 2h :D.
thx again for the help and take care m8,
Arrok
yup i think u explained it rly good - so as long as there r some skills which use the speed of the duel wield and every hit is been made with a different weapon than thats fine....however( if i understand u correctly) when i use a skill with CD - which means speed doesn't affect it much, the dmg is according to ur main weapon - which for ur own good should be the weapon with the highest dmg between the 2 weapons to make it the most effective. so i see the case is that when it comes to skills with CD 2hand weapons is the better weapon to use. but on skills with no CD the balance between 2 hand and duel wield is fine :)( cuz than the speed is getting into account).
thanks alot for explaining it for me, i rly appreciate it and hopefully i understood what u wanted to say
best regards,
Arrok
"i am not sure i get this new thing about duel wielding:
- When dual-wielding, certain skills will now always use your main-hand weapon to determine damage
- For example, Cyclone Strike will use your main-hand weapon damage even if your off-hand weapon is set to swing next
if i understand it correctly it means that only 1 weapon at a time will modify the dmg of the skill, so technically the only advantage u have with duel wielding is their speed and their stats, but not the fact u r holding 2 different weapons which have each their own dmg. and if thats the case than u better off with a 1 hand and shield cuz atleast than u have more armor while with dw u don't get extra dmg.if any1 understand it differently or mayB know more about this - plz tell me. cuz if it's the way i think it is - it's a rly sad day for all the monk, barb and DH duel wielders.
"
if u guys already answer it...i apologize,,,guess my english comprehension isn't good as i thought .
thanks again,
Arrok