Adria marked the prime evils before they were killed in Diablo 2 I thought. It made it so instead of them going into the souls stones (like we assumed, and then destroyed to no avail) they were instead sucked into the black soul stone when we killed them in Diablo 2. Adria would have been an allie to the prime evils all along, so she would have the opportunity to mark them before their death.
Yes Adria did indeed mark the souls - she didn't collect them. This is why the black soulstone consumes the souls when "activated" by Kulle.
So Adria just walked in the corrupted monastery, Tal Rasha's thomb and the durance of hatred and said "hey [insert Andy, Duriel, Meph and Baal] i will mark your souls so when you get killed your souls will be sucked inside this badass unknown soulstone, so in an few decades Diablo can all absorb you and become the Prime Evil"
This is not a plan any demons would agree with, speically the top elite ones. If the demons would remotely accept being absorbed by Diablo they wouldn't need an bunch of heroes to kill then in order ti release their souls. Demons refuse the idea of unity, this is execly why the Prime Evil is such a dangerous being.
Diablo tricked the other demons so he could absorb then, thats pretty much confirmed in the Black Soulstone cinematic. I don't see how Adria would mark fucking Greater and Lesser Evils against their will. Seriously Mephisto would turn her inside what in half blink of an eye. In D2 all the Evils you face acts really loyaly towards Diablo so if they are marked they never new it. And I don't see Mephisto and Baal being marked to the slaughter without even knowing it, that sounds ridicolous.
If this is the direction D3 story is, i'm deeply disapointed.
Also, your making it sound like a demon (Lillith) would be more powerful than a nephalem. I think that Adria is indeed a nephalem, just like our characters, which would make sence for both her long life and her assumed power, since nephalem are more powerful than both angels and demons.
Not more powerful, but more knowledgeable of their powers and how the universe works. I've a hard time believing Adria has flourished to that level of power. In that case why would she needs you (and the other heroes) in the first place ? Why she doesn't just go there and defeat Belial, like we did ?
Even Uldyssian had a fucking hard time using his powers in that level. Adria being able to reach the Black Abyss and capturing Evil's souls will or marking then to be absorbed by Diablo against their will sounds fishy as hell.
Yeah, I'm not seeing Lillith working for Diablo. I mean, it appears she's been working for him since possibly before D1, definatly end of D1, just before D2. At that point, she would have no idea (well, I can't see how she would have an idea) that Baal was going to destroy the worldstone, which, IMO, allowed the sudden jump in power (yes, we were getting back our Nephalem powers, but with the worldstone gone, the powers are coming back much, much faster). Additionally, if she IS Lillith, then would Leah been half demon half human, or all demon?
The souls of demons should be in the Abyss, not on Sanctuary.
Says...who?
Tyrael in D2 at the end of Act 4: "Praise be to the Light! You have accomplished the impossible! Diablo and Mephisto have been banished back into the Black Abyss that spawned them, and the corrupted Soulstones are no more"
The soulstones is an Izual's trick. The Horadrim idea was to keep the Evils forever caged inside the Soulstones. Izual knew the stones could be corrupted and telled Tyrael only half of the story, so they could use the whole concept of the soulstone as a passage into the Worldstone-protected Sanctuary.
Breaking the stones with the souls inside is not attempt to kill the Evils. It's just a way to banish then from Sanctuary. Thats the whole Horadrim's tragedy: they offered their world as prison to the great evils, interfering in the Great Conflict. What they gained ? Fucking demons in the doorstep. This is also Tyrael's fault, thats why he feels so guilty about Sanctuary's fate.
So the Evils souls should be in the Black Abyss, not floating around Sanctuary. The Evils respawn as soon as they get killed (this is backed up again in that video unlocked video were Auriel asks Imperius to not kill Diablo), Andariel and Duriel should be respawning in the Black Abyss since D2.
Lilith is working along side Diablo because she would know the Evils would loose every battle they dare to take against an Nephalem (like they did). Archangels and the Evils think they are the supreme beings of the Universe but Lilith believes otherwise. Working alongside the Prime Evils was both a way to destroy the Worldstone (one huge step in her ultimate goals) and a way to destroy the Evils (by sending then against her overpowered children).
At that point, she would have no idea (well, I can't see how she would have an idea) that Baal was going to destroy the worldstone
Destroying the Worldstone was the Prime Evil's plan since the Dark Exile. Open the door from the inside. Thats the whole plot of D1 and D2. She just bet Baal would succed.
Additionally, if she IS Lillith, then would Leah been half demon half human, or all demon?
Aindan was not demon, but an possessed human. What the natural law have to say about the child of an demon and an demon possessed person is beyond me =p She definetly have a human looking body but she also have demonic powers. Leah would make sense in both ways (Adria being Lilith or not).
Look even me is not taking this theory too seriously. It was just something i tought and felt like I should share, once this add alot of perpective to D3 plot imho. It does not only close a large plothole, it creats a connection between the Sin War, D1, D2 and D3.
I was reading the other thread (Adria is more powerful then e think). In this thread people adressed one of plot holes in D3's story: the souls of the greater and lesser Evil should be at the Abyss (were dead demon souls return and respawn) so Adria wondering across Sanctuary collecting those souls makes no sense.
Adria gotta be something more then a human witch. Gathering souls of greater demons ? Ploting side by side with Diablo himself against two of the Evils ? Trick Tyreal (who doesn't have powers but a eternity of wisdom and experience) ?
In my opnion D3's start to make alot more sense if Adria is actually Lilith. A short list of "evidence" (more hints then evidence actualy). Heres the short list:
* As mentioned above Adria gotta have some godly deception skills in order to make a fool out of Tyreal. In the Sin War it is very clear Lilith is a insane master plotter and deceptionist.
* Adria seduced Aidan in order to give birth to Diablo's future host, Leah. Again theres an convergence in skills and praxis of Adria and Lilith.
* As mentioned above Adria gotta have SICK dimensional traveling skills or else D3's plot have hole. The souls of demons should be in the Abyss, not on Sanctuary. The Abyss doesn't sound like a accessible place for a human witch. Adria being Lilith would kind explain that: Lilith found an way out of the Void once, hinting she has the power to travel dimensions above the avarage (Inarius didn't expected her to escape). For the third time theres an convergence between Adria and Lilith's powers.
This even explain why she lied about gathering the souls on sanctuary. If she telled "wow i was at the abyss bro" it would be really suspicious.
Why Tyreal believed the seven souls wasn't on the Abyss is another question though.
* Lilith would have all the motivations to make what Adria did in D3. First she tricked you and Tyreal into raising the Prime Evil (following Diablo's plot). With this she would crush the High Heavens by sending the powered Diablo there. Then she tricked Diablo once she knew you (the Nephalem) would stop him. Remember she's the only Demon that truely believe Nephalem are the superior beings. By doing that she crushed Hell.
With both sides broken she freely raise the Nephalem the way she wants.
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This is not a plan any demons would agree with, speically the top elite ones. If the demons would remotely accept being absorbed by Diablo they wouldn't need an bunch of heroes to kill then in order ti release their souls. Demons refuse the idea of unity, this is execly why the Prime Evil is such a dangerous being.
Diablo tricked the other demons so he could absorb then, thats pretty much confirmed in the Black Soulstone cinematic. I don't see how Adria would mark fucking Greater and Lesser Evils against their will. Seriously Mephisto would turn her inside what in half blink of an eye. In D2 all the Evils you face acts really loyaly towards Diablo so if they are marked they never new it. And I don't see Mephisto and Baal being marked to the slaughter without even knowing it, that sounds ridicolous.
If this is the direction D3 story is, i'm deeply disapointed.
Not more powerful, but more knowledgeable of their powers and how the universe works. I've a hard time believing Adria has flourished to that level of power. In that case why would she needs you (and the other heroes) in the first place ? Why she doesn't just go there and defeat Belial, like we did ?
Even Uldyssian had a fucking hard time using his powers in that level. Adria being able to reach the Black Abyss and capturing Evil's souls will or marking then to be absorbed by Diablo against their will sounds fishy as hell.
Tyrael in D2 at the end of Act 4: "Praise be to the Light! You have accomplished the impossible! Diablo and Mephisto have been banished back into the Black Abyss that spawned them, and the corrupted Soulstones are no more"
The soulstones is an Izual's trick. The Horadrim idea was to keep the Evils forever caged inside the Soulstones. Izual knew the stones could be corrupted and telled Tyrael only half of the story, so they could use the whole concept of the soulstone as a passage into the Worldstone-protected Sanctuary.
Breaking the stones with the souls inside is not attempt to kill the Evils. It's just a way to banish then from Sanctuary. Thats the whole Horadrim's tragedy: they offered their world as prison to the great evils, interfering in the Great Conflict. What they gained ? Fucking demons in the doorstep. This is also Tyrael's fault, thats why he feels so guilty about Sanctuary's fate.
So the Evils souls should be in the Black Abyss, not floating around Sanctuary. The Evils respawn as soon as they get killed (this is backed up again in that video unlocked video were Auriel asks Imperius to not kill Diablo), Andariel and Duriel should be respawning in the Black Abyss since D2.
Lilith is working along side Diablo because she would know the Evils would loose every battle they dare to take against an Nephalem (like they did). Archangels and the Evils think they are the supreme beings of the Universe but Lilith believes otherwise. Working alongside the Prime Evils was both a way to destroy the Worldstone (one huge step in her ultimate goals) and a way to destroy the Evils (by sending then against her overpowered children).
Destroying the Worldstone was the Prime Evil's plan since the Dark Exile. Open the door from the inside. Thats the whole plot of D1 and D2. She just bet Baal would succed.
Aindan was not demon, but an possessed human. What the natural law have to say about the child of an demon and an demon possessed person is beyond me =p She definetly have a human looking body but she also have demonic powers. Leah would make sense in both ways (Adria being Lilith or not).
Look even me is not taking this theory too seriously. It was just something i tought and felt like I should share, once this add alot of perpective to D3 plot imho. It does not only close a large plothole, it creats a connection between the Sin War, D1, D2 and D3.
Adria gotta be something more then a human witch. Gathering souls of greater demons ? Ploting side by side with Diablo himself against two of the Evils ? Trick Tyreal (who doesn't have powers but a eternity of wisdom and experience) ?
In my opnion D3's start to make alot more sense if Adria is actually Lilith. A short list of "evidence" (more hints then evidence actualy). Heres the short list:
* http://www.diablofans.com/topic/52672-adria-more-powerful-than-we-know-spoilers/ post #3 by Pyrrhic hints that Adria is more then humam (do not drink or eat wtf).
* As mentioned above Adria gotta have some godly deception skills in order to make a fool out of Tyreal. In the Sin War it is very clear Lilith is a insane master plotter and deceptionist.
* Adria seduced Aidan in order to give birth to Diablo's future host, Leah. Again theres an convergence in skills and praxis of Adria and Lilith.
* As mentioned above Adria gotta have SICK dimensional traveling skills or else D3's plot have hole. The souls of demons should be in the Abyss, not on Sanctuary. The Abyss doesn't sound like a accessible place for a human witch. Adria being Lilith would kind explain that: Lilith found an way out of the Void once, hinting she has the power to travel dimensions above the avarage (Inarius didn't expected her to escape). For the third time theres an convergence between Adria and Lilith's powers.
This even explain why she lied about gathering the souls on sanctuary. If she telled "wow i was at the abyss bro" it would be really suspicious.
Why Tyreal believed the seven souls wasn't on the Abyss is another question though.
* Lilith would have all the motivations to make what Adria did in D3. First she tricked you and Tyreal into raising the Prime Evil (following Diablo's plot). With this she would crush the High Heavens by sending the powered Diablo there. Then she tricked Diablo once she knew you (the Nephalem) would stop him. Remember she's the only Demon that truely believe Nephalem are the superior beings. By doing that she crushed Hell.
With both sides broken she freely raise the Nephalem the way she wants.