Thing is, spawn rate of the tornadoes from "Run like the wind" is related to your movement speed - the more, the better. Hence why it's important to keep your movement speed as high as possible while whirling.
Besides, other runes are pretty lackluster, dust devils only proc LoH once, blood funnel is extremely bad in general (1% life, which is nerfed to 0.2% on Inferno, per crit), 1 rage per hit is just a joke, so you're left choosing between hurricane and lava flows or w/e it was called.
I noticed your wearing your mighty weapon in the main hand slot, is this important or doesn't it matter ?
Of course it matters. Your Weapon Mastery only takes your mainhand into account, so if you want the extra rage from the mighty weapon to work, mainhand it.
str 879
vit 1016
armor 5316
crit 49%
crit dmg 207%
resists 700
37k hp
21k dps
1.6 loh
Your armor and resistances are fine, get more health (like 15-20k more) and more strength/crit damage, and maybe a tiny bit more LoH.
And for the love of god, disregard the posters who tell you to get life leech with 21k dps.
-goblins are quite hard to kill as my single target damage is a lot lower than before and hitting them with sprint / ww is nearly impossible for me
-any kind of ranged pack can give me huge troubles, especially shielding ones (the only easy ones in a3 being morloks)
-invul. minions with no other mobs nearby is a pain in the ass
These are true. Shielding is a pain in the ass, invulnerable minions, for me at least, are easier but can still hurt because LoH doesn't work on them.
About the goblins, I mentioned it multiple times, unless you happen to find a goblin while an elite pack is beating on you, you just won't get the goblin. The way their AI works, they just don't stand in tornadoes and you won't have enough rage to just whirlwind them down. People say getting bash/frenzy instead of overpower helps, but I just find overpower to be alot more efficient for everything else.
so for the offhand would you really pick a like 550 dps dagger with lets say 600 loh, 150 vit and a socket for some chd?
it just feels so wrong somehow
Well comparing this dagger to another one with 700 dps but no vit and 300 loh, yeah, this one's going to be better. I mean it depends on the stats. The only attack for this build that actually uses offhand dps is every second whirlwind hit. Which is, uh, not a very big margin of your overall damage.
1k LoH, is that enough? Atm im using a 1h with 300 ish dps but big str and vit and a whopping 956 LoH and another with 816 dps and about 650 LoH, so would probably change the low dps weapon and lose out on alot of LoH, but does that matter? Aiming for a 7-800ish MW with 3-400 LoH.
1k is enough for a2, you want to be closer to 2k in a3 and a4.
Don't worry about your offhand dps too much, its mostly a stat stick for this build (despite what the dps in your character sheet might imply).
A couple of tips on buying gear for this build:
1. Buy a neck with 500+ LoH and 6%+ crit. Other stats are irrelevant and anything extra will put the item in the price level of above 10kk. So just type in those two and keep sniping the AH.
2. For the weapons, put max buyout at 4 million gold, type in 500 LoH, 100 Vit and first do a search with socket being the third affix, then with crit damage instead of socket. This will usually show weapons good enough to get through the game without much trouble. Having strength as an extra or DPS above 650 on these weapons is nice but these are going to be costly.
3. Get to 500-600 resistance buffed. You won't need more with superstition and a good LoH value.
4. Stack vit. 50k health is the comfortable level to be doing a3-a4 with.
5. Get a lot of crit. That's 40%+ if not using a mighty weapon.
Working on getting a 1h mighty weapon as I don't have one atm.
This. Get one ASAP, it really makes a difference especially if undergeared.
I'm guessing you're hitting the enrage timer on elites if you just suddenly die. What ability did you replace with Bash?
I hear those molten/desecrator/arcane/plagued mobs that constitute for roughly 90% of elites in this game kinda hurt without overpower.
But sure, goblins are worthwhile.
Hope to find q goblin while you have WotB up and a pack of angry elites beating on you. Or a couple of demon hunters doing all the killing from behind in your group.
Failing either of these, safely run past, you won't kill the thing.
The lovely thing about this build lies in the fact that your dps matter not. As long as you can kill shit before it enrages (I haven't tested but enrages might also be possible), I'd actually go as far as to say that getting too much DPS might be detrimental, as there's a threshold of DPS which allows you to keep WotB up throughout the whole cooldown by not killing the groups too fast.
In the end, your stat priority will look like: LoH > Crit > AllRes > Vit > Armor > Str/CritDmg/IAS.
Initially when I was presented with a video of this build in action the maker was advising to bind the move action to space key or something, so that's what I tried. In the end it wasn't at all necessary but you're going to be struggling with controls for the first couple of days either way.
What you need to do is really get used to watching your buff panel and keeping sprint and berserker rage up. I had a lot of problems with rage even after I did, so I bought a mighty weapon for myself and put in mainhand, which is a great boost to rage generation. I also recommend using Superstition passive as your defensive passive because it's going to help you with rage in a lot of situations.
Next up, the biggest misconception about this build is that WW is endless - it's not. There are certain fights and certain bosses where you can whirlwind most of the time, but that's it, you don't kill a lone fallen shaman by whirling over him. You do, however, kill a lone fallen shaman by sprinting in circles around him - technically you can kill anything in the game using only Sprint.
You start the fight by hitting up Warcry and Battle Rage, and then depending on whether you have Leap or Overpower , either leap sso you hit some enemies when landing or use overpower while enemies are standing next to you and let them hit you a couple of times. Once you have enough fury, hit up Sprint and start circling. If you didn't get enough fury and you're facing a big group of monsters, you can whirlwind through it, this will usually net you enough so you can immediately use sprint and maybe continue whirling.
Do NOT use whirlwind if you're facing a lone elite or less than 3-5 regular monsters, the only exception is when the elite is a desecratior, plagued, or molten and you have Overpower - using Overpower while standing or moving through any of the aoe effects will usually give you enough Fury to allow whirling. Keep a close eye on your fury meter anyway, if you see it dropping below 50 stop whirling and just sprint around for a bit.
And practice it in the easier act, initially when I started playing this build I went into a3 straight away and had my ass kicked. Do a2 if you were progressing in a3, do a1 if you were in a2.
I cannot stress this enough, SPRINT IS YOUR MAIN ABILITY. Not whirlwind. You can keep WotB up endlessly without using WW, too.
Oh, and pay attention to your character. Sometimes you might hit whirlwind when you don't want to. Just click on the ground and the character will cancel WW, saving you the fury. This ain't an issue for people who have WW bound to right click but the build kinda shines with Overpower and you'll end up binding WW to LMB if you use Overpower, so yeah.
No, not really. If you're running with a two-hander and using bash hitting once per second, you're much better off stacking LL than any numbers of LoH, for example.
The speed at which your life replenishes is much slower than mine mate, despite having almost twice as much DPS.
Proves LoH is better with realistic DPS values with this build.
I don't see how this table is relevant, Frenzy is supposed to deal twice the tornado's damage and has different LoH coefficient.
I did half the math for you in my post above, and you're not going to be hitting 20k damage with tornadoes when sitting at 50-60k dps on the character screen.
I'll type in the tips for the build a bit later, had my share of fury problems as well when I began.
For those who were wondering, just made a full a3-a4 run (and I can't remember whether I mentioned soloing 4 ppl Ghom yesterday), Rakanoth remains remotely challenging, everything else is cakewalk.
Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGovmQPGcA
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Besides, other runes are pretty lackluster, dust devils only proc LoH once, blood funnel is extremely bad in general (1% life, which is nerfed to 0.2% on Inferno, per crit), 1 rage per hit is just a joke, so you're left choosing between hurricane and lava flows or w/e it was called.
Your armor and resistances are fine, get more health (like 15-20k more) and more strength/crit damage, and maybe a tiny bit more LoH.
And for the love of god, disregard the posters who tell you to get life leech with 21k dps.
These are true. Shielding is a pain in the ass, invulnerable minions, for me at least, are easier but can still hurt because LoH doesn't work on them.
About the goblins, I mentioned it multiple times, unless you happen to find a goblin while an elite pack is beating on you, you just won't get the goblin. The way their AI works, they just don't stand in tornadoes and you won't have enough rage to just whirlwind them down. People say getting bash/frenzy instead of overpower helps, but I just find overpower to be alot more efficient for everything else.
Well comparing this dagger to another one with 700 dps but no vit and 300 loh, yeah, this one's going to be better. I mean it depends on the stats. The only attack for this build that actually uses offhand dps is every second whirlwind hit. Which is, uh, not a very big margin of your overall damage.
Don't worry about your offhand dps too much, its mostly a stat stick for this build (despite what the dps in your character sheet might imply).
A couple of tips on buying gear for this build:
1. Buy a neck with 500+ LoH and 6%+ crit. Other stats are irrelevant and anything extra will put the item in the price level of above 10kk. So just type in those two and keep sniping the AH.
2. For the weapons, put max buyout at 4 million gold, type in 500 LoH, 100 Vit and first do a search with socket being the third affix, then with crit damage instead of socket. This will usually show weapons good enough to get through the game without much trouble. Having strength as an extra or DPS above 650 on these weapons is nice but these are going to be costly.
3. Get to 500-600 resistance buffed. You won't need more with superstition and a good LoH value.
4. Stack vit. 50k health is the comfortable level to be doing a3-a4 with.
5. Get a lot of crit. That's 40%+ if not using a mighty weapon.
I'm guessing you're hitting the enrage timer on elites if you just suddenly die. What ability did you replace with Bash?
Enchantress for the armor definitely. Besides, you can get more MF on her than on the scoundrel I believe.
But sure, goblins are worthwhile.
Failing either of these, safely run past, you won't kill the thing.
In the end, your stat priority will look like: LoH > Crit > AllRes > Vit > Armor > Str/CritDmg/IAS.
Initially when I was presented with a video of this build in action the maker was advising to bind the move action to space key or something, so that's what I tried. In the end it wasn't at all necessary but you're going to be struggling with controls for the first couple of days either way.
What you need to do is really get used to watching your buff panel and keeping sprint and berserker rage up. I had a lot of problems with rage even after I did, so I bought a mighty weapon for myself and put in mainhand, which is a great boost to rage generation. I also recommend using Superstition passive as your defensive passive because it's going to help you with rage in a lot of situations.
Next up, the biggest misconception about this build is that WW is endless - it's not. There are certain fights and certain bosses where you can whirlwind most of the time, but that's it, you don't kill a lone fallen shaman by whirling over him. You do, however, kill a lone fallen shaman by sprinting in circles around him - technically you can kill anything in the game using only Sprint.
You start the fight by hitting up Warcry and Battle Rage, and then depending on whether you have Leap or Overpower , either leap sso you hit some enemies when landing or use overpower while enemies are standing next to you and let them hit you a couple of times. Once you have enough fury, hit up Sprint and start circling. If you didn't get enough fury and you're facing a big group of monsters, you can whirlwind through it, this will usually net you enough so you can immediately use sprint and maybe continue whirling.
Do NOT use whirlwind if you're facing a lone elite or less than 3-5 regular monsters, the only exception is when the elite is a desecratior, plagued, or molten and you have Overpower - using Overpower while standing or moving through any of the aoe effects will usually give you enough Fury to allow whirling. Keep a close eye on your fury meter anyway, if you see it dropping below 50 stop whirling and just sprint around for a bit.
And practice it in the easier act, initially when I started playing this build I went into a3 straight away and had my ass kicked. Do a2 if you were progressing in a3, do a1 if you were in a2.
I cannot stress this enough, SPRINT IS YOUR MAIN ABILITY. Not whirlwind. You can keep WotB up endlessly without using WW, too.
Oh, and pay attention to your character. Sometimes you might hit whirlwind when you don't want to. Just click on the ground and the character will cancel WW, saving you the fury. This ain't an issue for people who have WW bound to right click but the build kinda shines with Overpower and you'll end up binding WW to LMB if you use Overpower, so yeah.
Proves LoH is better with realistic DPS values with this build.
I did half the math for you in my post above, and you're not going to be hitting 20k damage with tornadoes when sitting at 50-60k dps on the character screen.
I'll type in the tips for the build a bit later, had my share of fury problems as well when I began.
Proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGovmQPGcA