I really want to know how those Gladiator people you were talking about think of this game....
well you're talking to someone that took 3 premade teams and got them to marshal-grand marshal ranks, back in vanilla.
and i've been leading RBGs in cata before i quit wow for good.
playing a rogue or frost mage or what ever you want to name out, with all those abilities/trinkets for any senario. is not really into your skill of survival more of simple minded buttons clicking.
in GW2 you set your 7-10 skills before the fight or after the fight is over, and you have 2 sets of weapon setup that you premake for either intense melee fights, aoe dmg or range fights. and you flip in and out mid fight, avoid dmg incoming, no "homing missile" casts or range shots.
like others said before me, WoW guys either adapt to the challange of GW2 and enjoy it or simply rant about it and run back to wow, with its "balanced" pvp, where ppl "dont" whine about a specific class being to OP, untill its nerfed again, so ppl could whine about another class being to OP...
here's wow for you, frost mage drops shatter combo on its target pops everything and 2 shot it...so much skills...yeah...
Madnek you likely didn't read the whole post. I address everything you said
actually i did read it, i think you missed the point or how the game works.
i've been talking with ex-wow/swtor players and active ones, some of them were running for glad ranks others doing heroic dragon soul.
all of them stated that they are having more fun then they had most of the time in wow or swtor.
you its boring, its a matter of opinion.
you say pvp offers no skill, but you cannot back yourself up with any solid proof.
you say thief and rogue are basicly the same, while even though the have few similar abilities, their mechanics is different.
bottom line is, you're probably one of VERY few that did miss the point of the game.
give it another go, this time PLAY the game, dont start comparing it to pvp-unbalance, grind fest mmos. simply try to enjoy.
1. No class roles. Healer / Assassin / Tank / Self-Sustaining damage-dealer Etc.
2. Skills are BORING and "weapon based." You unlock all of youre main skills in the first 10 levels or so. No self-synergy.
3. Big zerg fests that really question what you are actually contributing to anything.
4. Boring Carbon-Copy class ideas, with an awkward Guild Wars 2 wrapping
5. PvP is LAAAAAAAAME and skill-less. #1 and #3 dont help. Big zerg of randomness with no obvious team work.
6. A new idea for leveling that just comes-off as cluttered and unfinished.
7. Leveling is SLLLOWW and un-rewarding. Dont give me this "enjoy the ride!" nonsense
8. Feels like a non-subscription fee game. There just isn't that weight of the extra money. It's like they tried to fit everything into a lower budget.
i'm coming with +6 years WoW exp and +6 months in SWTOR...
1. Arena Net said from the first days of announcement, they are "killing" the "holy trinity", which is an amazing thing, since GW always was the best pvp provider from most mmos, including wow.
2. those are not your skills, those are weapon based abilities, skills unlock on the 6-10 on the right side of your HP. and even the weapons abilities are amazing with their combination. something wow doesnt give.
3. big grp quests are great, personally i get mostly gold medals for little effort when there are many players at the same quest. that also solves in a way the "camp spawn" problems WoW gives.
4. boring copy class ideas? try thief, its most fun char i've played so far.
5. pvp is skill-less? well if your idea of skill is gear based and OP classes then yes you're completely right!. wow is well known for class buffing/nerfing on almost EVERY patch. GW2 is not based on gear or class, those factors play a VERY minor role. if you know how to play your class, with your skill you have a fair chance of winning. doesnt depends on your gear nor class.
6. the lvling is amazing, no need to pick up quests and read BORING quest logs. you run by an area and there is a quest going on? you want to assist, you get rewarded, if you dont really care and keep running with your business thats fine as well.
7. i dont know where you lvl, but i went on a "mining trip" the other day, i've gained +2 lvls in 2 hours. thats just from mining and random quests, how about leveling in WvWvW?
8. i'm glad its non sub fee game, because games like WoW are a dying breed, SWTOR going to be F2P in about a month or two and when MOP will fail, most likely wow will go f2p as well.
all in all, i've been enjoying myself just as much i was enjoying myself back in Vanilla-TBC times, if not even more.
but ArenaNet also stated that wow players, will look for an easy-wow-like-game. i'll be honest, i'm glad that is not!
well you're talking to someone that took 3 premade teams and got them to marshal-grand marshal ranks, back in vanilla.
and i've been leading RBGs in cata before i quit wow for good.
playing a rogue or frost mage or what ever you want to name out, with all those abilities/trinkets for any senario. is not really into your skill of survival more of simple minded buttons clicking.
in GW2 you set your 7-10 skills before the fight or after the fight is over, and you have 2 sets of weapon setup that you premake for either intense melee fights, aoe dmg or range fights. and you flip in and out mid fight, avoid dmg incoming, no "homing missile" casts or range shots.
like others said before me, WoW guys either adapt to the challange of GW2 and enjoy it or simply rant about it and run back to wow, with its "balanced" pvp, where ppl "dont" whine about a specific class being to OP, untill its nerfed again, so ppl could whine about another class being to OP...
here's wow for you, frost mage drops shatter combo on its target pops everything and 2 shot it...so much skills...yeah...
actually i did read it, i think you missed the point or how the game works.
i've been talking with ex-wow/swtor players and active ones, some of them were running for glad ranks others doing heroic dragon soul.
all of them stated that they are having more fun then they had most of the time in wow or swtor.
you its boring, its a matter of opinion.
you say pvp offers no skill, but you cannot back yourself up with any solid proof.
you say thief and rogue are basicly the same, while even though the have few similar abilities, their mechanics is different.
bottom line is, you're probably one of VERY few that did miss the point of the game.
give it another go, this time PLAY the game, dont start comparing it to pvp-unbalance, grind fest mmos. simply try to enjoy.
i'm coming with +6 years WoW exp and +6 months in SWTOR...
1. Arena Net said from the first days of announcement, they are "killing" the "holy trinity", which is an amazing thing, since GW always was the best pvp provider from most mmos, including wow.
2. those are not your skills, those are weapon based abilities, skills unlock on the 6-10 on the right side of your HP. and even the weapons abilities are amazing with their combination. something wow doesnt give.
3. big grp quests are great, personally i get mostly gold medals for little effort when there are many players at the same quest. that also solves in a way the "camp spawn" problems WoW gives.
4. boring copy class ideas? try thief, its most fun char i've played so far.
5. pvp is skill-less? well if your idea of skill is gear based and OP classes then yes you're completely right!. wow is well known for class buffing/nerfing on almost EVERY patch. GW2 is not based on gear or class, those factors play a VERY minor role. if you know how to play your class, with your skill you have a fair chance of winning. doesnt depends on your gear nor class.
6. the lvling is amazing, no need to pick up quests and read BORING quest logs. you run by an area and there is a quest going on? you want to assist, you get rewarded, if you dont really care and keep running with your business thats fine as well.
7. i dont know where you lvl, but i went on a "mining trip" the other day, i've gained +2 lvls in 2 hours. thats just from mining and random quests, how about leveling in WvWvW?
8. i'm glad its non sub fee game, because games like WoW are a dying breed, SWTOR going to be F2P in about a month or two and when MOP will fail, most likely wow will go f2p as well.
all in all, i've been enjoying myself just as much i was enjoying myself back in Vanilla-TBC times, if not even more.
but ArenaNet also stated that wow players, will look for an easy-wow-like-game. i'll be honest, i'm glad that is not!