Try dueling on hardcore, and consistently winning, MEANWHILE maintaining your high lvl and xping on a regular basis... that'll wet your taste buds.
I did, but everyone just town hugs or sits by their tp. The second they even might take damage they run in, tp, or just leave; it's absolutely pointless.
? The only thing I experience is picking up ears lol
I refuse to listen to people saying that HC is the only way to play Diablo, it's the only true Diablo that sorts boys from men etc. - that's a pile of bullshit really.
Agreed. I remember the funnest times I had in Diablo was joining random pk games with my buddies and trying to 2v6 or 3v5 the rest of the guys in there. We'd literally pk for hours on end, and in the beginning, most of that was getting our asses handed to us. Anytime we hung out we would be thinking of new class combinations, discussing which items were better, etc. etc. It really got us motivated to MF/trade hard for the gear that we needed to dominate in PvP and soon we were just ripping apart pub pk games.
I honestly feel bad for the 'HC purists' that never had a taste for what the rest of the game had to offer. Killing hell baal without dying really isn't much of a challenge.
Try dueling on hardcore, and consistently winning, MEANWHILE maintaining your high lvl and xping on a regular basis... that'll wet your taste buds.
I think we can all agree with this statement here...
Diablo 3 needs to come out so we can spend less time on this forum chatting, and more time playing the game we're all waiting for, however we chose to play it.
ffs you little elitists don't misquote me please. I understand you like hardcore... and I'm not asking for you to be penalized for liking a different playstyle from me, am I? I'm merely asking to not be punished for not enjoying the... fleeting nature of hardcore characters. Sure I understand, it's incredibly fun for you guys - isn't the fun of it reward enough?
I played hardcore, I didn't enjoy it. I never said that YOU GUYS don't get attached to your characters. Read me a line in ANYTHING I said that said 'nobody gets attached to their characters'. I expressed MY PERSONAL OPINION of the times I PLAYED HARDCORE. I found NO JOY in it because I felt no attachment to the characters. NOWHERE did I say YOU GUYS SHOULDN'T FEEL THAT WAY. Just that people shouldn't be rewarded for enjoying different aspects of the game. I don't enjoy hardcore, not because it's hard - I actually kind of found the challenge a bit fun. But after a while, I felt no attachment to my character so I stopped playing it. It was that simple.
Man I hate people who misquote people or change the wording. It's just so incredibly rude and such poor forum etiquette. How can you people even call yourselves friendly posters if you are so RIDICULOUSLY rude to people? God...
Edit: Note: My final statement: I don't feel that any game mode or style of play should receive any power-impacting exclusive. Fluff things like unique dyes or perhaps even have a different appearance to the final tier set - those are all great ideas. And of course the unique banner appearance modifications.
But actual ITEMS... no. Only someone who is truly in their heart elitist would ever agree to that - and that is proven by reading the posts of EVERY person in this thread who has said they're for it.
You mad son? lol...
This would all be fine and dandy but Blizzard already produced a video about hardcore and inferno, and that the bosses would have even more abilities and tweaks for HC only... So wtf is wrong with modifying gear slightly to compensate? Either way, it's trivial, it'll be what it is.
HC D2 is boring as shit. It was fun to begin with due to the fact it was a change from SC, but after a while you realize HC is just SC but with less choices.
You have to play a PvM build with a high focus on survivability; that means ES build for every sorc, summons for every necro, etc. etc. You can't really fool around with other builds because it's too risky; you can't even go kill Hell Nihlathak because the risk is absolutely retarded. You're also completely missing the PvP aspect of the game.
Probably my biggest gripe about HC is how the HC-elitists feel superior to SC players. The game's not that hard. There are only 3 things that will really kill you in HC: 1) On death abilities like fire enchanted ancients/stygian dolls 2) Burning Souls and 3)Iron Maiden from Oblivion Knights if you're melee (but blizzard removed iron maiden from oblivion knights so now there's only 2 things that will really kill you).
Now, if HC D3 is some how different and not just a stripped down version of SC D3 (eg. HC D3 has added content, HC specific gear, etc. etc.) then I'll be excited but at the moment it doesn't seem that way.
NOTE: This is from an experienced hardcore player that had a 94 wind druid/89 blizz sorc.
You just contradicted yourself talking about only "3 things" would kill you on HC between your 2nd and 3rd paragraph. And what about the fact that HC requires a somewhat flawless playstyle... I take it you don't duel much, or did, when you played hc for about 20 minutes that it took to hit 94 on xpac lol
Or when doing baal runs, people would leave the second they saw a pack of souls near the waypoint... I'd dash right in and see how long it took to kill them. Or at least I'd drag them away so someone else could go port to the chamber - even if I died 100 times. Things like that are stuff I enjoy doing.
That's something I just can't do on hardcore.
It's the same way for the hardcore players. What you find fun I find retarded. What's the joy in dying a hundred times to kill a few monsters. Prove that you were up for the challenge? Obviously you weren't since you died those 100 times.
That's the main difference between hardcore and softcore.
Softcore is like "Oh what the hell..." since the only risk involved is loss of gold and hardcore is "Better think this through..." because if you die - you're dead.
Even looking at SC vs HC objectively, hardcore involves much more risk than SC. Everything that your character carries (including the stash, which you can't loot to my knowledge) disappears. That's possibly quite a lot of items if you haven't muled items in a while. Not only would your main character be dead but items you could have used to give your new ones a little head start are also gone. Basically, you start over from scratch.
Hardcore specific items doesn't have to be unique weapon modifiers that would change the game compared to SC. A visually more appealing item to show off your hard work and maybe just a bit higher or optimized stats. No bullshit like:
"Archangels Might"
"Revives character upon death. Effect can only occur once every week of play."
Something like that would be ridiculous, not to mention gamebreaking and that's not what we're suggesting. I just want something to say that I'm a badass motherfucker that beat Diablo 3 on Infero while playing hardcore. Could be a cool looking armor, could be a unique title and banner for my character, could be a unique achievement, could be an awesome weapon.
As for why there should be a reward involved? You have one life. Simple as that. Keeping alive takes a lot of skill and care when playing your character.
=) yo I'm out 30 y/o w/ tattoo on eye wants to go out, and I ain't above it... so I'm sure you and I will be humping these forums tomorrow while I do homework (I HATE college)... lata, enjoy your evening/day wherever you are~
It's cool... Different minds think differently. I guess I just see it as an opportunity for my crew and I to enjoy HC a lil more than we already do. Honestly if someone is willing to pay for an item on HC, they know what they're getting into... there's nothing for them to complain about. They know beforehand the potential risks of their decisions, or so we would hope. Anyway, there's nothing wrong for someone paying real $ for another person's time spent finding the item or what have you, the same way it's a valid idea for SC. D2 JSP is just going to remain priority for HC items being sold, which is unfortunate. HC items will surely remain at a premium, and SC items will quickly dive in price, and it'll be a penny auction within 6 months due to the fact thousands, if not millions of items will be in circulation, without deletion... and a waste of a damn good idea.
No, no it shouldnt, could you imagine the crap blizzard would have to put up with when someone dies in HC due to server lag after they bought something for money from blizzards RMAH? I 100% totally understand and agree with them on that.. it would be horrible for them.
You still run the same risk regardless... There's not a valid reason not to allow it... Anyone playing HC knows risks they run... Anyways, server side crashes do not cause deaths, being that the client (the game) server side, is in fact frozen, meaning npc's stop AI. Been playing D2 HCC since I can remember playing D2, and I've never once seen a server side game crash result in a player death.
edit - I WANT a RMAH on HC because of the fact there will A L W A Y S be a premium on top tier items due to the fact that there WILL in fact be player deaths, and item deletion, thus keeping the value high, and a chance to make some good cash while enjoying the game... People still paypal for D2 HCC items $100+ bucks for a solid item ie 304 martel I found... I mean that's 2 hours of real work for me but still, why not make some dough enjoying the game? I really think it'd be good for the HC economy to be honest.
I am very curious as to the (and if there is any) difference in playing hardcore over softcore. I know you can only die once as a hardcore char(character); what I was actually interested in was if you get better loot, more drops, better drops?
Also, are hardcore items only usable by hardcore chars?
In several videos it has been said that Hardcore will not only be more difficult in terms of bosses such as tactics and dmg output but certain drops will be Hardcore only, as incentive to look different and be a cut above. I don't remember which videos but if you scan through some of the more recent ones produced by Blizzard you will hear it for yourself... HC...... THE ONLY WAY TO BE =)
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Agreed
Why would I make this up? Lol I could care less...
? The only thing I experience is picking up ears lol
Try dueling on hardcore, and consistently winning, MEANWHILE maintaining your high lvl and xping on a regular basis... that'll wet your taste buds.
Diablo 3 needs to come out so we can spend less time on this forum chatting, and more time playing the game we're all waiting for, however we chose to play it.
I wish I could find it... I don't stockpile links to share for convo =(
You mad son? lol...
This would all be fine and dandy but Blizzard already produced a video about hardcore and inferno, and that the bosses would have even more abilities and tweaks for HC only... So wtf is wrong with modifying gear slightly to compensate? Either way, it's trivial, it'll be what it is.
You just contradicted yourself talking about only "3 things" would kill you on HC between your 2nd and 3rd paragraph. And what about the fact that HC requires a somewhat flawless playstyle... I take it you don't duel much, or did, when you played hc for about 20 minutes that it took to hit 94 on xpac lol
Agree to each and every single word.
You still run the same risk regardless... There's not a valid reason not to allow it... Anyone playing HC knows risks they run... Anyways, server side crashes do not cause deaths, being that the client (the game) server side, is in fact frozen, meaning npc's stop AI. Been playing D2 HCC since I can remember playing D2, and I've never once seen a server side game crash result in a player death.
edit - I WANT a RMAH on HC because of the fact there will A L W A Y S be a premium on top tier items due to the fact that there WILL in fact be player deaths, and item deletion, thus keeping the value high, and a chance to make some good cash while enjoying the game... People still paypal for D2 HCC items $100+ bucks for a solid item ie 304 martel I found... I mean that's 2 hours of real work for me but still, why not make some dough enjoying the game? I really think it'd be good for the HC economy to be honest.
Where is this posted????
In several videos it has been said that Hardcore will not only be more difficult in terms of bosses such as tactics and dmg output but certain drops will be Hardcore only, as incentive to look different and be a cut above. I don't remember which videos but if you scan through some of the more recent ones produced by Blizzard you will hear it for yourself... HC...... THE ONLY WAY TO BE =)