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Nope, tons and tons and tons of full duel games. People would wait at Act 1 encampment bridge and go out and fight, group or 1v1. Take turns calling each other out. And there were far more than you think there was.

Just because you're ignorant to the PvP side doesnt mean it did not exist. I did both, a lot of both. I know.

The duelers that spent hours and hours and hours and hours dueling and not PvM'ing would like to have a word with you. As would the Hardcore duelers.

Like I've stated before, when you searched for games at D2 prime, it was "Trade/Duel/Run x location"

If you cant understand that, there is no hope for you.

Your solution is votekick, which was in beta at one point, but didnt work. I havent looked into, or heard any word on that system in recent times. Guess we find out at launch.

You remove a PvP griefer, the same way you remove a PvE one, the boot.

I just explained to you how they do exist in d3

You think this same sort of elitism wont occur in PvM? You've lost your mind. People will vote kick ( if they add it ) or just leave games because someone is bringing them down. When someone joins, shit gets harder, if they dont help you, you're going to stay and die? No, most will leave, rage, tell them off, vote kick etc etc. But, thats only because PvP players fostered this growth of hate right?

Further in D2 there was a ladder, a ranking system that fostered the competitive nature of the game.

If you think having a ladder, or a ranking system leads to elitist behaviour, then there is no point continuing this conversation with you.

It creates competition, how an individual acts or behaves is their own doing. The creation of an in game ladder does not MAKE an individual an elitist asshole, the elitist asshole makes himself an elitist asshole.

I was in school, and I had to get a certain % to pass, I got a 71, and because of that I'm now a serial killer.

^ makes about as much sense as, a video game has a ranking system, so because of that I'm an elitist asshole.

The logic train has left the station for you, and that shit derailed.

All PvP players want is the ability to PvP and a ranking system, for competition, to see where in the global scheme of things we are. If you're the best PvP team in the world for 3's in D3, that would be a cool thing to know. How that group wears the crown of best pvp team is up to them, just because they are the best doesnt mean they have to act like elitist assholes. that call is up to them. Just because there is a ranking system, doesnt make them elitist assholes.

Further, most top tier pro players, are not assholes, are extremely informative, and are very helpful when you talk to them, and they wear the crowns. When you become a top tier player you enter a respect club for the most part, there are very few "Idra" players in the top tier scene.

and if you dont know who Idra is, he is a top tier sc2 player who rages, calls everyone retarded, when he gets stomped by toss or terran he calls it imbalanced, when he plays ZvZ he calls it stupid, and has a history of not being able to control his rage to the point where he will leave games, that he has actually won. He is just your general elitist, raging idiot. Pro players ( a long with everyone else except Idra fanboys ) make fun of him all the time for his attitude.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-kBxbbtYZc

^ for reference

You're still talking from your self experience, trying to pass it off as truth, that's the problem. You said the PvP community is small, you dont have those numbers to back it up, and because it's small it doesnt get the attention that it deserves.

You think PvP is the reason there is elitism?

Gearscore? Harsh raid recruitment, trolling, flaming ALL happen within pve as well.

"Oh that lock cant pull xxxxxx dps, fuck that scrub, kick him"

^ something that occurs everyday, EVERYDAY in PvE. Abuse of vote kick, and raid lead, happens PURELY on PvE. The PvE crowd looks in the mirror and can only see perfection. Apparently we made you guys assholes and elitists? Cause gearscore and DPS meters came from PvP players?

hah, hahahaha that's laughable. Competitive features? Guess what, your PvE crowd invented a vast majority of them. All we want to do is kill eachother, and want rankings, that's it.

You think this same sort of elitism wont occur in PvM? You've lost your mind. People will vote kick ( if they add it ) or just leave games because someone is bringing them down. When someone joins, shit gets harder, if they dont help you, you're going to stay and die? No, most will leave, rage, tell them off, vote kick etc etc. But, thats only because PvP players fostered this growth of hate right?

Diablo is about killing monsters, killing each other, and trading. If you cant support those 3 things, it is NOT diablo. This apparently leads to all the PvM'ers raging saying "JUST CAUSE I DIDNT KILL PLAYERS, THAT MEANS PVP IS NOT A INTEGRAL PART OF DIABLO".
^Dat logic.

The problem is, I defend your right to kill monsters, you don't defend my right to kill players. Then you insult us as a whole, saying we are some necrotic force on gaming. Which is just pathetic.

The only "minority" blizzard refers to in discussion of PvP is the hardcore PvP players. That's it. jay Wilson wants to support them too.

Really, cause my entire YEARS of playing D1, and D2, we always had tons, and tons, and tons, of dueling games. When You looked up the server list, it was duels trading and running locations (chaos, cows etc)

1/3 of those games are not represented, the trade is being moved to GAH/RMAH

Do you KNOW the numbers of the pvp community? No you dont, you're speaking out of your ass. Until blizzard gives you a number, you speaking 110% out of your ass.

also im not putting my nose in the air, I gave you the source, where's his saying PvE was small?

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You lot should be downright gratefull to blizzard for including some kind of PvP in Diablo 3, Since it's first and foremost a player(s) vs envoirment game.

Iam not saying screw PvP but iam not saying that they should make the PvP aspect of the game an priority either, Iam just happy that they add that and I see it as an extra, and TBH if you buy D3 for the sole reason of PvP'ing, You WILL get dissapointed.

no its not, we have been killing eachother since d1. Learn your history.

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That's quite an old plan Mac. Alot could of changed.

Nope, thats what they're going with, if you keep up to date you'd know this.

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Gosh, why are all PvP'ers feeling so buttfucked atm? Stop whining for god sake! You don't know what plans Blizzard has with the PvP, yet you already cry like babies. WAIT TILL THE FUCKING PVP PATCH IS RELEASED - then you can start whatever it is you're doing.

I see myself as a PvM myself, HOWEVER I will of course play a whole bunch of PvP aswell. Just wanted to make that clear.

I can't stop comparing PvP'ers to MW3 players with all of this whining, over and over. If you don't like the game, simply don't buy it. Go back to WoW, or develop your own fucking game.

Cheers lads.

Actually we know what blizzard has planned for PvP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E452S_fJwA

you silly low post count noobs, going hostile right off the bat. Loooveeee it.

You have proved to be... 100% troll, 100% ignorant, or just 100% stupid.