@Da_Trauko: Yeah, I actually found an ancient AW somewhere on a mule and tried the build and so far it looks like the strongest of them all. Quite squishy though, so decent killspeed+Goldwrap+Boon of the Hoarder might be better to make it easier.
@Umbrasjg: Not sure if I have a WoW good enough to try that; if so I might, but it obviously needs quite some gear to work.
@Beotrix: Interesting build. I'm not really into Jade and Chicken, but might give it a try once I've tested all the others.
@Mad_Tom: Yeah, but elites don't die from just "riding through" on T13. At least not with my gear (I think 280k thorns). So you have to time bombardments for that. Besides - it's not a Sage's build If I'm not running Sage's, I think monk LTK or UE DH on T11 would be best DB/hour.
@ol_baid: From my experience, Inna's can't really keep up in terms of damage - but it looks interesting. I'll give it a try!
@PTXAA: WW (Wastes) can't be combined with Sage's, so it doesn't fit into this topic Also, as someone who absolutely *loves* the WW barb, Raekor is better in every regard. WW is the most brainless build, but Raekor is just orders of magnitude stronger once you got the Charge timing right. Unfortunately.
After some testing and re-rolling and cubing on non-season I all of the sudden found myself with almost no Death's Breath. Since I have literally thousands of GR keys, I want to maximize the DB rate and therefore started looking for builds that includes the Sage's set. However, Torment rifts are really boring, so I usually like to watch something while running them and not pay attention to resources or CoE cycles and so on, so I'm looking for the most brainless build known to mankind. Suggestions? Here's a collection:
This monk build was my go-to because the basic LTK is one of the fastest Torment builds overall and adding Sage's doesn't decrease its damage too much, so damage gets an 8/10. I think it scores a solid 5/10 on the "brainless scale"; In-Geom is the cornerstone of almost all Torment builds but this one really *needs* it to be up. Also, I find the SWK interaction clunky to get into at first, I liked the old SWK better.
For DH there's actually two I found, but I think going non-Sage's UE would be faster while going higher (and netting the same amount of DB/hour). I don't know, for some reason those don't really look like they can hold a candle to other classes' Sage's builds in terms of damage, so probably a 3/10. Not sure how easy to play they are since I can't test them (lack of DB, catch-22!), but it looks like a 7/10 I'd guess.
Of course barb can't be missing. Most Sage's+Raekor's builds rely on Boulder Toss which I really dislike (it's a 1/10 on the brainless scale), but this one is close to a 8/10 (only issue is if you lose Charge charges). But I'd assume it's damage would be mediocre, probably 5/10.
I love Zunimassa. So looking forward to next season, when it's going probably to be starter set. This one is definitely a bit slower in terms of movement speed, but damage should be 8/10 and brainless scale is easy 10/10. Let the pets do all the work!
Crusader had Sage's builds before thanks to Invoker's, but they weren't really *that* great (correct me if I'm wrong and post builds). But with Akkhan's getting an amulet, there's finally another option. This one is what I wanted to test when I started playing NS yesterday, but I'm missing just so many items that I'd like to know if it's worth it. What keeps me from going for it though is the bombardment delay. My LoN bombardment crusader wrecks T13... but in the few seconds between bombardments, he does nothing. That's a bit annoying, and I guess this build will have the same issue? But anyways, I guess this might be 9/10 damage and 8/10 brainless.
This one I found just a few minutes ago, and it looks super exciting. Unfortunately my last DBs all went down the drain to get an Aether Walker (I can't believe I salvaged all of them, I'm an idiot) so I can't test it yet. The Explosive Blast wizard was a lot of fun, but kind of capped out at TX. I never liked the Archon speed farm builds as that seems to be about every wizard build these days; but this one looks like a nice change of pace. Anyone can compare those to the other builds here? Looks like 10/10 damage and 7/10 brainless.
Other suggestions? Post your thoughts on the previous builds or your own builds! I'm especially looking for thoughts from people who play more than one class and can as objectively as possible compare. Thanks!
@Da_Trauko: Yeah, I actually found an ancient AW somewhere on a mule and tried the build and so far it looks like the strongest of them all. Quite squishy though, so decent killspeed+Goldwrap+Boon of the Hoarder might be better to make it easier.
@Umbrasjg: Not sure if I have a WoW good enough to try that; if so I might, but it obviously needs quite some gear to work.
@Beotrix: Interesting build. I'm not really into Jade and Chicken, but might give it a try once I've tested all the others.
@Mad_Tom: Yeah, but elites don't die from just "riding through" on T13. At least not with my gear (I think 280k thorns). So you have to time bombardments for that. Besides - it's not a Sage's build If I'm not running Sage's, I think monk LTK or UE DH on T11 would be best DB/hour.
@ol_baid: From my experience, Inna's can't really keep up in terms of damage - but it looks interesting. I'll give it a try!
@PTXAA: WW (Wastes) can't be combined with Sage's, so it doesn't fit into this topic Also, as someone who absolutely *loves* the WW barb, Raekor is better in every regard. WW is the most brainless build, but Raekor is just orders of magnitude stronger once you got the Charge timing right. Unfortunately.
UPDATE: Thread locked, continue here:
http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-iii-general-forums/diablo-iii-general-discussion/221227-brainless-builds-comparison-sages-set-builds-with
After some testing and re-rolling and cubing on non-season I all of the sudden found myself with almost no Death's Breath. Since I have literally thousands of GR keys, I want to maximize the DB rate and therefore started looking for builds that includes the Sage's set. However, Torment rifts are really boring, so I usually like to watch something while running them and not pay attention to resources or CoE cycles and so on, so I'm looking for the most brainless build known to mankind. Suggestions? Here's a collection:
[UPDATED] No-CDR Sunwuko LTK + Sage's (1k+ DB/h / T13)
This monk build was my go-to because the basic LTK is one of the fastest Torment builds overall and adding Sage's doesn't decrease its damage too much, so damage gets an 8/10. I think it scores a solid 5/10 on the "brainless scale"; In-Geom is the cornerstone of almost all Torment builds but this one really *needs* it to be up. Also, I find the SWK interaction clunky to get into at first, I liked the old SWK better.
[2.5.0] Shadow4p/Sage3p | 600+db/h [Torment 10]
[2.5.0] Natalya6p/Sage3p | 600db/h [Torment 10]
For DH there's actually two I found, but I think going non-Sage's UE would be faster while going higher (and netting the same amount of DB/hour). I don't know, for some reason those don't really look like they can hold a candle to other classes' Sage's builds in terms of damage, so probably a 3/10. Not sure how easy to play they are since I can't test them (lack of DB, catch-22!), but it looks like a 7/10 I'd guess.
[S9][2.4.3]Speed Death's Breath farming
Of course barb can't be missing. Most Sage's+Raekor's builds rely on Boulder Toss which I really dislike (it's a 1/10 on the brainless scale), but this one is close to a 8/10 (only issue is if you lose Charge charges). But I'd assume it's damage would be mediocre, probably 5/10.
Death's Breath Farm build T VIII - X
I love Zunimassa. So looking forward to next season, when it's going probably to be starter set. This one is definitely a bit slower in terms of movement speed, but damage should be 8/10 and brainless scale is easy 10/10. Let the pets do all the work!
DB Farming (Akkhan + Sage + Norvald)
Crusader had Sage's builds before thanks to Invoker's, but they weren't really *that* great (correct me if I'm wrong and post builds). But with Akkhan's getting an amulet, there's finally another option. This one is what I wanted to test when I started playing NS yesterday, but I'm missing just so many items that I'd like to know if it's worth it. What keeps me from going for it though is the bombardment delay. My LoN bombardment crusader wrecks T13... but in the few seconds between bombardments, he does nothing. That's a bit annoying, and I guess this build will have the same issue? But anyways, I guess this might be 9/10 damage and 8/10 brainless.
[2.4.3] (TXIII) (650+ DB/hr) Tal Electrocute - Manald Heal + AW + Sage's
This one I found just a few minutes ago, and it looks super exciting. Unfortunately my last DBs all went down the drain to get an Aether Walker (I can't believe I salvaged all of them, I'm an idiot) so I can't test it yet. The Explosive Blast wizard was a lot of fun, but kind of capped out at TX. I never liked the Archon speed farm builds as that seems to be about every wizard build these days; but this one looks like a nice change of pace. Anyone can compare those to the other builds here? Looks like 10/10 damage and 7/10 brainless.
Other suggestions? Post your thoughts on the previous builds or your own builds! I'm especially looking for thoughts from people who play more than one class and can as objectively as possible compare. Thanks!