Since bigdaddyden had the chance to respond, I'll close this thread as all that's left now are personal issues that should not be resolved publicly but via PM between the involved parties. If anyone wants to make suggestions to the build system and the frontpage widget please do so constructively and without attacking others personally. Thanks.
I get your point, but what is the alternative? If the widget takes "old builds" into account, then certain people will just update their 2000+ upvote builds indefinitely and forever remain #1 on the widget. At some point there has to be a cut. If we do not allow people to post similar builds twice (which is close to impossible anyways from a development point of view without messing up usability) then no one would point any PTR builds anymore altogether.
Every solution has drawbacks. No system is ever perfect. But on this one I'm not exactly sure what the takeaway from your criticism is. So because he did a lot of PTR testing and made those builds during PTR (when the system still had a different patch number), you're saying he has forfeit his right to re-create the builds now that 2.4.2 is live and get to the frontpage with those builds? Note that many many people create duplicates of builds - be it only for having two variants and not having to edit back and forth because you have two very similar (yet in playstyle different) builds.
Your criticism in #3 says that it's unfair if someone does a lot of PTR testing and then the big guys come and claim the fame. Well, but in this case it's his own fame. If he doesn't recreate the builds, someone else does. And you being a WD you know exactly that probably 99% of the WD builds in 2.4.2 are going to be very very similar (basically 2.4.1 builds with Wormwood+Haunt+RoE somehow incorporated).
On a more general rant: I think we all realized that whoever makes the frontpage widget is not the "inventor" of a build or the "first" to make it or the "best written" build... it's all about advertising. Welcome to the Internet in 2016 - I'd be happy to see Diablofans being different to the rest of the world but it's not. A troll thread on Reddit recently got 1000 upvotes, repetitive meta/"what should I play" threads are all over the place, and useful contributions usually hover around 50 upvotes and vanish quickly. Don't blame the system, blame the people. (Very very relevant to politics at the moment, btw.)
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ModeratorI get your point, but what is the alternative? If the widget takes "old builds" into account, then certain people will just update their 2000+ upvote builds indefinitely and forever remain #1 on the widget. At some point there has to be a cut. If we do not allow people to post similar builds twice (which is close to impossible anyways from a development point of view without messing up usability) then no one would point any PTR builds anymore altogether.
Every solution has drawbacks. No system is ever perfect. But on this one I'm not exactly sure what the takeaway from your criticism is. So because he did a lot of PTR testing and made those builds during PTR (when the system still had a different patch number), you're saying he has forfeit his right to re-create the builds now that 2.4.2 is live and get to the frontpage with those builds? Note that many many people create duplicates of builds - be it only for having two variants and not having to edit back and forth because you have two very similar (yet in playstyle different) builds.
Your criticism in #3 says that it's unfair if someone does a lot of PTR testing and then the big guys come and claim the fame. Well, but in this case it's his own fame. If he doesn't recreate the builds, someone else does. And you being a WD you know exactly that probably 99% of the WD builds in 2.4.2 are going to be very very similar (basically 2.4.1 builds with Wormwood+Haunt+RoE somehow incorporated).
On a more general rant: I think we all realized that whoever makes the frontpage widget is not the "inventor" of a build or the "first" to make it or the "best written" build... it's all about advertising. Welcome to the Internet in 2016 - I'd be happy to see Diablofans being different to the rest of the world but it's not. A troll thread on Reddit recently got 1000 upvotes, repetitive meta/"what should I play" threads are all over the place, and useful contributions usually hover around 50 upvotes and vanish quickly. Don't blame the system, blame the people. (Very very relevant to politics at the moment, btw.)