Perhaps i should have been a little more clear. Your question that stood out to me the most was "People spend millions of gold to get the gear to finish Inferno then go back and farm areas for more gold and better items but for what reason?"
You then finish the post by stating that you see the game as done once you have beaten Inferno.
What i got from these two points was you asking for justification to continue playing the game hence my answer.
I too play games as a form of entertainment granted i play more than the avg person i know.
Im sorry if my original post was a little confusing but you asked questions that only really you can answer for yourself
As to not replaying games more than a couple times. if you dont play them more than a couple times thats fine and your choice as an individual however there are hundreds of games ive played through dozens of times. Final Fantasy 1-10 Every Zelda game ever created 8 years of diablo 2 just to name a few
Apparently OP you never played diablo 2 pre 1.10 or any gear driven game for that matter if your asking these questions. Why I myself play these games should not be your question. Why YOU YOURSELF play these games should be. If you cant justify playing these types of games for yourself why would our answers serve to justify them for you?
There are so many problems in the game it's amazing and it does need fixing, and Inferno DOES need to be nerfed damage wise.
Barbarians are not meant to be played with 1h + shield, but currently it's the only way to effectively farm Act 3/4.
Monks are in the same shit. Just because you're a ranged class shredding through monsters doesn't mean that other classes have it as easy.
Izual Act 4 is bugged as shit. He does his aoe which insta kills me on my DH. He does yell 2 things randomly before he casts, but the problem is he sometimes casts at the same time as he yells, sometimes near the end of the meaning, and our only defensive ability against it (Smokescreen) lasts for 1.5 sec. Broken mechanic is broken.
i am a barbarian so yes i know the plight of which u speak and yes playing a sword and board is a little aggravating but i do whatt i must
i dont use the ah because i dont pay to win. say what u will about that but thats just how i play. i agree with the gear drop change it just makes sense. but like i said the balancing as most of you will call it is easily fixed by my first point now that u can get the gear
Lots of respect for not using AH. AH hurts the game imo.
The game should always be balanced around people who do not trade.
But there are things in act 3-4 which WILL kill people, no matter how good gear they get - so allowing gear to drop in act 1 wont fix everything.
thats the point of inferno though. your supposed to get killed wheres the fun in a game that has no chance of death even if i have all the best possible loot in the entire game i do not want to be immortal
I was promised by blizzard that inferno difficulty would be unlike anything i had ever experienced in one of there games and that progressing through a single act could takes weeks...... they lived up to that so far. i spent 12 days farming mahdga just so i could kill ZK. it has taken me three weeks to farm enough gear from act 2 just to get to belial im a barb btw. this is what i was promised. i dont use the ah because i dont pay to win. say what u will about that but thats just how i play. i agree with the gear drop change it just makes sense. but like i said the balancing as most of you will call it is easily fixed by my first point now that u can get the gear
i care about nothing in this patch save for 2 things and they relate to one another
1. Act 1 inferno will now have a small percentage to drop lvl 62 and 63 loot effectively allowing players to progress without spending mind blowing prices at the ah. Bravo blizz you got it right it makes sense that u farm a previous act to get the gear to progress not the 2 acts above it. im in this for weeks of farming to progress not pay to win.
2. there nerfing inferno act 2 and above. NO STOP THAT you fixed the problem with point number one now leave it alone,
I agree with alot of what the op said in terms of gear affixes.
What i dont agree with is people wanting runewords brought back.
The introduction of runewords broke diablo 2's individuality by forcing everyone into having the same runeworded armor and weapons regardless of what class you were.... runewords will again take away your individuality in this game as everyone will have the same exact gear..... thats not what diablo 2 started as, that not what diablo 3 should be about.
The items in diablo 3 atm suck big time with the exception of a few truly nice pieces we cant get because of where there located.
bringing back runewords will not solve this problem it will force peole into cookie cutter item builds.
i dont agree that diablo three will wink out anytime soon even with all the flaws im having a blast.
How about you guys shut up trying to deffend blizzard. This is wow all over again with a bunch of blizzard fanboys defending blizzard. I'm not saying it's not hard I'm not saying that a game can't have problems but if a game have problems it is ALWASY THEIR FAULT. Sure I'm not hating on blizzard but the matter of the fact is this is not a beta this is not a test of servers they have had the exact same problem every time they launch a new game yet they are still to realise how to solve the problem. For instance arena net had a BETA event with gw2 where they had major problems but they fixed it faster than blizzard. Tbh it leads me to believe the problem isn't the amount of people logging in it's how their servers handle the loggin in (a good example of a game with a lot more players would be lol and they have a system that works and queue u up).
I try to keep my bitching to a minimum cause I'm fine with it but it's allowed to bitch if u buy a product that doesn't work and I'm pretty sure you could actually get your money back in some countries (read I live in Denmark and a lot of the eula from wow doesn't count cause it violate national laws I think about consumer rights. So yes they can ban you but legaly there are some grey areas) and possibly in most if u just bitch enough at the store that sold you. And no blizzard didn't sell me a license they can revoke at any time they sold me a game that sure they can ban me but I bought the game I didn't borrow it.
And btw people that got hacked didn't get hacked they got keylogged I'm pretty sure blizzard even said this and I'm pretty sure there is no problem where you can actually hack people. I'm just throwing the idea out there that people might not have been entirely honnest or entirely inteligent in their internet activities (I'm prob not any better but lets be fair u don't get hacked it's too much work it's so much easier to keylog people)
Actually they did rent you the game.... you really need to read thing before you hit accept
To the OP it's not that people are ungrateful or that nobody understands the problem of maintaining servers. It's just that people want the game to work and the game should have had offline mode, to start with, which could negate most of the problems we're facing right now.
Offline would ruin online. See "Diablo 2" for evidence. Great game, but it was ruined by hackers and manipulators. Unless you think you can successfully argue that D2 kept it's integrity intact? I have a sneaky suspicion that many of the complainers probably were the same people that complained about D2 the whole time it's been out, as well, they're likely part of the bunch that was hacking it to death, all the while, complaining.
For some perspective; At the risk of sounding like an old man, back in my time as a kid, playing 4-bit and 8-bit games, and PC games were all burdened with errors, If this sort of game suddenly became available (online Diablo 3) ....I would think fuckin space wizards had taken over the Earth. This sort of gaming experience would've seemed other-worldy.
Yet a few errors and some issues with server stability have caused an entire generation of demanding brats to forget how lucky they are to have such technology at their disposal. Y'all mother#$%*ers are spoiled, whether you realize it or not, spoiled.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL THISSSSSSS^^^^^^^^^ A MILLION FUCKING TIMES.... i too am from the 8 bit era. my best friends nephew was born in 2001...... my friend and i were talking about the NES. his nephew looked at me and asked what is that and how many online games did it have? i was shocked into silence..... This is not a generation thing...... i meet adults on a daily basis like these kids.
Usually the people who complain about the servers are people who don't have knowledge about what it takes to keep them maintained.
It is harder than Inferno on hardcore, I know. But it is not impossible. And if you expect people to pay for a product, that product should live up to certain standards. And while Blizzards games are awesome fun, the speed at which they handle technical issues, is a disaster...
You have to think of maintenance like a doctor treating a patient. Patient complains... doctor diagnoses problem.... starts treatment.... has to wait and see if treatment worked..... didnt work.... try another treatment.
Well, I'd say that when you pay what amounts to full price for a game you'd like it to work, instead you get a really terrible launch followed by days of huge bugs and server issues.
I think most people would be a lot calmer if the game's launch and subsequent first week had gone a lot smoother.
Remember Wrath launch? How bout Cata? Both had severe issues and i didnt see anywhere neare the amount of complaining i see here.. People piss and moan about the game, how they hate it or how shitty it is, but they still play it? Where is the logic?
Why are people so ungrateful for what blizzard has done for us?
There are bugs in the system ill grant you that but they are trying to fix them.
All day in general chat i see people complaing about how blizz sucks they wasted there money bla bla, like they are entitled to a game just because they payed money for it.
You dont own this game my friends and if you dont believe me read the TOS agreement.... your renting the right to play.... they own it and can take it from you at any time for no reason at all.
Have some Gd appreciation for what these people have givin you.
i love the diablo franchise and i appreciate what blizz gave me...... patience and understanding people... they give it to us everyday.
You then finish the post by stating that you see the game as done once you have beaten Inferno.
What i got from these two points was you asking for justification to continue playing the game hence my answer.
I too play games as a form of entertainment granted i play more than the avg person i know.
Im sorry if my original post was a little confusing but you asked questions that only really you can answer for yourself
As to not replaying games more than a couple times. if you dont play them more than a couple times thats fine and your choice as an individual however there are hundreds of games ive played through dozens of times. Final Fantasy 1-10 Every Zelda game ever created 8 years of diablo 2 just to name a few
i am a barbarian so yes i know the plight of which u speak and yes playing a sword and board is a little aggravating but i do whatt i must
and yes i have noticed leap give nothing for fure but since im generally at max fury when i use it n e way it does not bother me
1. Act 1 inferno will now have a small percentage to drop lvl 62 and 63 loot effectively allowing players to progress without spending mind blowing prices at the ah. Bravo blizz you got it right it makes sense that u farm a previous act to get the gear to progress not the 2 acts above it. im in this for weeks of farming to progress not pay to win.
2. there nerfing inferno act 2 and above. NO STOP THAT you fixed the problem with point number one now leave it alone,
What i dont agree with is people wanting runewords brought back.
The introduction of runewords broke diablo 2's individuality by forcing everyone into having the same runeworded armor and weapons regardless of what class you were.... runewords will again take away your individuality in this game as everyone will have the same exact gear..... thats not what diablo 2 started as, that not what diablo 3 should be about.
The items in diablo 3 atm suck big time with the exception of a few truly nice pieces we cant get because of where there located.
bringing back runewords will not solve this problem it will force peole into cookie cutter item builds.
i dont agree that diablo three will wink out anytime soon even with all the flaws im having a blast.
There are bugs in the system ill grant you that but they are trying to fix them.
All day in general chat i see people complaing about how blizz sucks they wasted there money bla bla, like they are entitled to a game just because they payed money for it.
You dont own this game my friends and if you dont believe me read the TOS agreement.... your renting the right to play.... they own it and can take it from you at any time for no reason at all.
Have some Gd appreciation for what these people have givin you.
i love the diablo franchise and i appreciate what blizz gave me...... patience and understanding people... they give it to us everyday.
This is assuming a 2h weapon and plenty of crit
i may also switch out the corpse explosion rune on cleave foir the additional fury gen
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