@Graphics- I need all the wisdom you can spare on core stability and strengthening.
It's still the shit here in the UK but was wondering if any new research has come up around it questioning the validity or evidence behind.
Thanks.
Hmm...the last time i turned down a girl, she went and told all her friends I was gay.
My girlfriend found it hilarious. I thought it was too until a guy asked me out. He was so awfully direct about it- guess he meant business.
In other news, 9 days to go.
In other other news, I came back from an awesome fishing trip today. Need more of those.
Na am not calculative at all in social circles...
Don't they fall into the category of hypocrites? Say you don't like a person but maintain a relatively good and 'forced' relationship so you can have better networking. I am incapable of that.
I will make an effort though if a person X is fairly neutral in my bingo book. To extend the courtesy mostly. Going for games or any other entertainment after an invitation just seems a bit too selfish to me.
These pursuits can be easily satisfied any other time.
So do i end up being classified as calculative but with good intentions? Hmm...
I think it may be ingrained behavior as social animals. We build and set up parameters in order to justify behavior with greater benefits somehow.
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Quit trying to be smart, you fail in pathetic manner.
A cool guy is also a popular guy. So you are knocking at the wrong door here. I don't clamor to popular appeal.
And what's with the dictionary part? Did i write something complicated?
But then again, if your avy is gooby, i can understand how many of the words I am using seem complicated.
Finally if you can't add to the topic, piss off. This is the URT. I don't complain about your retarded gooby speech. So have some consideration on your side now.
You always say the most ironic things. Grapsing at straws. Please. You know as well as I that lightly defending someone doesn't constitute having your "panties in a mix." That's completely absurd.
What's truly absurd is how focused you are on this part when it's almost entirely irrelevant to the core of the discussion.
This is what is called grasping at straws.
Also, you question my honestly, but you fail to bother with pointing out where you consider me to be lying.
I never said you were lying. Reading and understanding anything that comes as criticism on the way you 'debate' seems to be very difficult for you.
Intellectual dishonesty is not synonymous to lying if that's where you are getting your cue from. It's about grasping at straws.
I am going to assume that it is the section about not being able to rate her, and seeing beauty in generaly health and hapiness. If so, I think it's very funny that you would go on and on about how hurtful beauty ideals are, and then accuse someone of lying if they don't hold anyone to a particular standard, as though it's not possible to do. It seems somewhwat duplicious. Some people are more striking than others, often for reasons you can't see in a flat image. But most of it is fairly complex, and it's definitely not something I'd bother to quantify on a 10 point scale. Sorry if that concept is hard for you to grasp.
I'm sorry but that is just plain hypocrisy and trying your best to skirt away from a simple question on appearance appeal.
Some people are more striking than others often for reasons you can't see in a flat image? I am not saying to rate her on personality or social/oratory skills/achievement. But merely on the image.
For it is my assumption that is precisely people who are seeing actual faults in her (appearance) that don't find this funny- Trombone just demonstrated it by mentioning vagina necks. I don't find this a fault...at all.
Also visual analogue scales have good enough sensitivity and reliability in terms of characteristics(appearance here) that cannot be directly measured which is why it was chosen.
However if you can explain exactly WHAT is fairly complex(on judging appearance alone subjectively), I might consider a different form of evaluation that is more 'fair'. The scale is meant to take into account all your preconceived notions ideas/experiences and is subjective.
Is that too hard for you to grasp?
Certainly, as a person who has strategically decided to put emphasis on a certain part of their body for their photo that has been devoted a thread, you must be aware at least on a subconscious level of the power of visual appraisal.
In any case, all the famous people/fashion magazine do consciously know of it even though you want to make it a complex issue which it is obviously not.
Also, you can play the mature card all you want but being a girl showing off her chest on an internet forum to gather attention hardly qualifies you for it. On top of 'going down to my obnoxious level'. Oh my....
Irony, irony.
That's why i said you were boring and lacked intellectual integrity and honesty.
@Trombone- I understand the situation quite well.
You are making an assumption on the insecurity of some people while I on the vanity of same people.
There's a fine line that is crossed which tips the scale between needing to be 'beautiful' and understanding that you realistically can't and you best get used to it.
I have poor analytical skills? That seems somewhat presumptuos doesn't it? "Panties in a mix" suggests a level of agitation. No one seemed agitated... until perhaps now. People were defending her, and questioning the meme, but in a very casual way, that didn't rise to any definiton of getting your panties in a mix.
Actually, coming into a situation where no one is upset, and telling everyone their panties in a mix, feels a bit like you are trying to agitate people. Feels a bit trollish actually.
As for rating the girl, I really can't. I think there are infinite kinds of beauty. If someone takes care of themselves, looks happy, keeps a healthy weight and exercies enough to stay a bit toned, that's beauty to me. I'm insecure in ways and pretty hard on myself, but I've got very easy standards for the rest of the world. LOL!
Lack of intellectual integrity and honesty to top it all.
I never knew you managed to get an oxford definition of panties in a mix. You seem to be an expert at grasping at straws.
Believe it or not Nekrodrac, there are people that are uncomfortable about the silliest of things despite being "beautiful" in the public eye. There are people with low self esteem that these pictures might lower it even further. Why do you think plastic surgery is such a big business today? Because people aren't comfortable with themselves. Hollywood and the media have a lot to do with that.. but so does growing up and getting bullied.
And yes... I can see both perspectives of this, I get it's funny to some people... but I just don't find it funny. It's not a matter of being too dense to get the humor, it's just a matter of personal opinion.
I don't mean to go on about this... but it's always been something that bugs me.
I suppose it is truly a matter of perspective.
One can feel insecure by this picture. Or maybe they can look at it and realize that no girl is or can be perfect. If one wants to nitpick, they will.
In any case the nitpicking on this pic is way too retarded to be taken seriously.
Let alone personality flaws or issues, a girl feeling insecure through those means is just....not very bright.
Further, you previously mention everyone getting their "panties in a mix" over that post, but somehow, I'm completely overlooking that part of the conversation. I see nothing but light discussion specualting about the intent of the meme's creator.
Poor analytical skills on your behalf I suppose.
People were actually trying to defend the girl therefore my prompting my conclusion of their disapproval of said picture.
Personally, I don't see it as inflamatory. It's just unfunny. My first thought when I saw it was "Oh, someone over-analyzing someone's body and pointing out anything they percieve as less than ideal, as if they were dealing with something inanimate instead of a person. That's nothing new."
I think this point of view arises from the conception of the idea that though the girl is pretty, she isn't that pretty.
I find her to be severely bang-able (personality withstanding). Therefore trying to make her out as undesirable is just comically unreal. Simple as that.
A question for you and Tralari- what would you rate that girl on a scale of 0-10.
10 being ideal obviously.
Try and be as honest as possible for the sake of the discussion.
Women with certain body types having been glorified throughout the media/fashion industry and portrayed as 'ideal' is what have deepened the sense of insecurity felt by girls and women around the world. Add to the bill anorexi and bulimea and you have a right mess on top of all that crap.
That chick on the pic is so obviously pretty (from most males' perspectives I would imagine) that picking her apart like that and making her out to be undesirable is simply...hilarious.
Thinking that this is what makes women insecure is why I think you don't get the 'humor' at all.
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It's still the shit here in the UK but was wondering if any new research has come up around it questioning the validity or evidence behind.
Thanks.
Hmm...the last time i turned down a girl, she went and told all her friends I was gay.
My girlfriend found it hilarious. I thought it was too until a guy asked me out. He was so awfully direct about it- guess he meant business.
In other news, 9 days to go.
In other other news, I came back from an awesome fishing trip today. Need more of those.
That's all.
Don't they fall into the category of hypocrites? Say you don't like a person but maintain a relatively good and 'forced' relationship so you can have better networking. I am incapable of that.
I will make an effort though if a person X is fairly neutral in my bingo book. To extend the courtesy mostly. Going for games or any other entertainment after an invitation just seems a bit too selfish to me.
These pursuits can be easily satisfied any other time.
So do i end up being classified as calculative but with good intentions? Hmm...
I think it may be ingrained behavior as social animals. We build and set up parameters in order to justify behavior with greater benefits somehow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu7KIHYlteI
This one's funny though because she gets a reaction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHrL0UXPvOI&feature=related
I've often wondered at that escape goat attitude...It's kind of depressing.
Will get back to you later on your latest post. There's an idea i wanted to expand/share there.
In reply to this-
Quit trying to be smart, you fail in pathetic manner.
A cool guy is also a popular guy. So you are knocking at the wrong door here. I don't clamor to popular appeal.
And what's with the dictionary part? Did i write something complicated?
But then again, if your avy is gooby, i can understand how many of the words I am using seem complicated.
Finally if you can't add to the topic, piss off. This is the URT. I don't complain about your retarded gooby speech. So have some consideration on your side now.
I would love to fight OUR YOUR puberty.
TO WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am taking the pick-axe.
What a constructive post. I think this convinced me to stop.
+1 there.
Edit- I am not 'restarting' anything. Different time zones..
So it's just continuing gooby.
This is what is called grasping at straws.
I never said you were lying. Reading and understanding anything that comes as criticism on the way you 'debate' seems to be very difficult for you.
Intellectual dishonesty is not synonymous to lying if that's where you are getting your cue from. It's about grasping at straws.
I'm sorry but that is just plain hypocrisy and trying your best to skirt away from a simple question on appearance appeal.
Some people are more striking than others often for reasons you can't see in a flat image? I am not saying to rate her on personality or social/oratory skills/achievement. But merely on the image.
For it is my assumption that is precisely people who are seeing actual faults in her (appearance) that don't find this funny- Trombone just demonstrated it by mentioning vagina necks. I don't find this a fault...at all.
Also visual analogue scales have good enough sensitivity and reliability in terms of characteristics(appearance here) that cannot be directly measured which is why it was chosen.
However if you can explain exactly WHAT is fairly complex(on judging appearance alone subjectively), I might consider a different form of evaluation that is more 'fair'. The scale is meant to take into account all your preconceived notions ideas/experiences and is subjective.
Is that too hard for you to grasp?
Certainly, as a person who has strategically decided to put emphasis on a certain part of their body for their photo that has been devoted a thread, you must be aware at least on a subconscious level of the power of visual appraisal.
In any case, all the famous people/fashion magazine do consciously know of it even though you want to make it a complex issue which it is obviously not.
Also, you can play the mature card all you want but being a girl showing off her chest on an internet forum to gather attention hardly qualifies you for it. On top of 'going down to my obnoxious level'. Oh my....
Irony, irony.
That's why i said you were boring and lacked intellectual integrity and honesty.
@Trombone- I understand the situation quite well.
You are making an assumption on the insecurity of some people while I on the vanity of same people.
There's a fine line that is crossed which tips the scale between needing to be 'beautiful' and understanding that you realistically can't and you best get used to it.
Lack of intellectual integrity and honesty to top it all.
I never knew you managed to get an oxford definition of panties in a mix. You seem to be an expert at grasping at straws.
Bleh. You are boring beyond measure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rz4I69mQMo&ob=av2e
And yes, I really like it.
I suppose it is truly a matter of perspective.
One can feel insecure by this picture. Or maybe they can look at it and realize that no girl is or can be perfect. If one wants to nitpick, they will.
In any case the nitpicking on this pic is way too retarded to be taken seriously.
Let alone personality flaws or issues, a girl feeling insecure through those means is just....not very bright.
I said i found it hilarious(and refreshing). Not life or society-changing.
Get a grip.
Poor analytical skills on your behalf I suppose.
People were actually trying to defend the girl therefore my prompting my conclusion of their disapproval of said picture.
I think this point of view arises from the conception of the idea that though the girl is pretty, she isn't that pretty.
I find her to be severely bang-able (personality withstanding). Therefore trying to make her out as undesirable is just comically unreal. Simple as that.
A question for you and Tralari- what would you rate that girl on a scale of 0-10.
10 being ideal obviously.
Try and be as honest as possible for the sake of the discussion.
Women with certain body types having been glorified throughout the media/fashion industry and portrayed as 'ideal' is what have deepened the sense of insecurity felt by girls and women around the world. Add to the bill anorexi and bulimea and you have a right mess on top of all that crap.
That chick on the pic is so obviously pretty (from most males' perspectives I would imagine) that picking her apart like that and making her out to be undesirable is simply...hilarious.
Thinking that this is what makes women insecure is why I think you don't get the 'humor' at all.