man please i keep being nice about this but it started to annoy the crap out of me its called the search engine this had been posted only about a 1000 times -.-
The word 'splash' yields five results. My thread is one of them. 'modified splash' shows only my thread. And I wont even bother searching posts for "splash". Normally I would check first, but thats pretty impossible with all of the things that have gone on recently.
Perhaps someone will see it that hasn't yet. Otherwise, I dont really care.
Thank you for actual insightful and meaningful criticism.
Your idea seems very true when it comes down to it.
I still think more red is in the center then anywhere else though.
That can anyone agree on?
You're quite welcome. Its hard to tell where the red actually is, as its hard to isolate it without isolating the white. Personally, I'm not so sure there is more red in the middle. I see alot of gray that could be interpreted as having a little bit of shade. What the shade is depends on the eyes that are looking at it. I'm speaking of the recent splash though. I dont have all of the other images.
When you stack them, its quite possible that most of the red is toward the center. I did see the figure in your image, I'd bet that it isnt intentional though. You never know with Blizzard though.
If by heavier you mean darker with more contrast, that is not indicating more red. Its indicating a lack of color and light. There is more black in the red channel because red has the least amount of representation of the three colors. Most of the white seen in that channel is being represented by white highlights in the image, not red.
The channels in Photoshop display white and black, representing positive and negative values of color, effectively isolating each color and allowing you to adjust it individually. When talking about color in Photoshop terms, you cannot think of crayons and paint. Its quite true that it is impossible to mix anything together and get white. But in the properties of light (Photoshop is by design a photo editing program, not a painting application) white has equal properties of every color. Black has no properties of any color, as color does not exist in darkness.
And because white has equal properties of color, it is displayed equally in all channels. In other words, when there is white on the screen, and you isolate the red channel, you aren't just seeing red, you are also seeing white.
There is red in the image, but no where near the amount that is suggested by the red channel.
As for the image. I played around with it in Photoshop last night. Didnt save it, but it wasnt much better than what has been posted. The left character clearly *looks* like an A but the right one I would say is definitely not a B. It looks more like a G if anything. The bottom portion is curved at too much of an extreme to be a B. But I think this image might not display writing. Below the area that everyone is focusing on there is an element that is common in vine type designs. I think thats what everything is - artistic engravings. Something you may see on armor, helmet, or even just wall.
Point is, it most likely isnt a logo. Its probably just a highly magnified point, most likely on a significant image, but on an area that is certain to not give the topic away.
You can't copyright normal words. You can trade mark them but that usually involves graphics, colours etc as well. There could be no more movies after a while because every name would be copyrighted otherwise.
The actual trademark is the name that represents something. Artwork is only considered trademarked when it represents the name, otherwise it falls under copyright. As you said, colors can also be trademarked, as well as shapes/designs but its the word that these things represent that matters. And it doesnt matter what language the word is in, or what its true definition is.
It has everything to do with the reputation and knowledge of the word and its associated products within a given industry. In this case, it would be entertainment media. Being that Blizzard and its products are well known in the entertainment industry, including film, they have every right to claim ownership of that title in that realm, especially when its a high budged movie with a known action star.
If this were a brand of cereal, or a model of car, then they would have no claim, but it isnt.
Again, doesnt mean New Line or anyone else doesnt have a fight, but Blizzard certainly has one as well. And a strong one at that.
If anyone randomly wants to make a movie with the name "Diablo", they can. The only way they can be sued if they purposefully advertise their product as something relating to the game Diablo.
Not do drag this out, because its quite obvious they can sue, because they did... But I’m quite sure that’s incorrect. I’m not an expert on the issue, but I’m a graphic artist and work with companies on a regular basis that talk about it (I’m not envolved in that aspect however). Though I have done some browsing on the subject in the past.
The main issue is the consumer, not the company’s intentions (though intent can also be considered). If a company can prove that consumers will mistakenly assume the product is associated with something that its not, then that’s all they need. It doesn’t matter whether the offender intended this or not.
Granted the word is from a specific language with a slightly unrelated meaning (the actual word Diablo does not directly reference the game made my Blizzard) though as someone one else pointed out, that’s irrelevant. The word represents the game, regardless of its true meaning.
Being that this would be an American movie staring Vin Diesal (I think) and probubly have some action involved, its quite possible that people would mistakenly think it might have to do with the Diablo game, which means New Line could easily profit from Blizzards work, which would be un lawfull.
If this were a documentary or a religious movie made in Mexico, things may be different as the difference of topics would be more obvious.
New Line could also argue that the difference will be evident enough, but Blizzard certainly has grounds to take legal action.
This was kind of mentioned in previous posts in this thread, but just to show where the logic comes from:
The way that we develop things, each time a development team becomes available, because they're done with creating the games that they've been doing, they have a lot of say over what their next game is. So what it would take is for one of our teams to decide that they want to make Warcraft RTS and of course, there'll be some talk about doing that and I'm sure after StarCraft 2 ships, it will be one the ideas on the table for that team to do, but that's pretty far off in the future and it would really be determined by a combination of the dev team and the company leadership.
Everything is speculation, and no matter what they say, we'll never know until an official announcement is made. But out of the three teams, the Starcraft one will be the first to decide whats next for Blizzard. The WoW team will have their hands full for a LONG time, and its safe to assume that the Starcraft team is further into development than Team 3, meaning their product will be released first, freeing them up, therefore allowing them to be first to decide on what to do next (most likely a Starcraft 2 expansion).
Anyway, by mentioning the Starcraft team with having the option of developing Warcraft (most likely due to what I said above) he has effectivley eliminated Team 3 from any possible Warcraft development...
For those that do not have the time or energy to watch the video and wait for it to load... Here is the question and answer:
IGN: Alright so, I have to ask this because our fans wont stop emailing us, but us, or readers I should say, fans of you, but uh; Whats going on with Diablo? Paul Sams: Diablo... Well uhm, its obviously a very important franchise to us. And I would say that as with Starcraft and Warcraft, we will certainly get back to it at some point. We're focused very much on World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King and the content updates associated with World of Warcraft as well as StarCraft 2. We do have some other things in development that we're not ready to talk about, but what I would say is, is that we love that franchise, and its something that will get revisited at some point.
If you watch the video, he seems a little surprised at the subject of the question. However, I dont think this has anything to do with what he may feel is a lack of activity, interest, or development. I think its just the fact that he is conducting a mostly Warcraft oriented interview, and when the interviewer said "all the fans keep emailing us, so I have to ask" I bet quite a few things went through his head about features that did or didnt make it into the expansion, and then he gets hit with a Diablo question. As obvious as the subject is to us, it may not have been to him at that moment, therefore surprised him.
Also, as 'closed doors' as Blizzard is, I doubt he would mention 'things in development', unless it was directly related to the question at hand, and he didnt have much choice but to mention it.
So this pretty much officially confirms, as officially as a confirmation will get before an announcement, that they are infact working on it. Blizzard is just the kind of company that does not publicly announce they are working on a game from day 1. They have a kick ass cinematic team that is recognized worldwide by the computer graphics industry, and their game development is obviously damn good as well. So when they do announce something, they dont want to just mention it and let the hype slowly roll along over the next few years. They want to hit you with an amazing short video that will hook you, and then rather than release a few trailers over the next few years during development, they immediately show you a working product, and let you see first hand what to expect. They like to start with a bang, and build ON TO IT, not start with nothing, and build up to it.
Cant blame them there. They'll announce it when they are ready.
Blizzard has "no comment" on the Diablo movie. Mmmmmnn hmmmmnnn...
Told ya...
Of course they have no comment... This is either a mistake (the kind of mistake that gets people fired), or a marketing ploy that they knew fans would pick up on and keep us talking until August.
This is just one more thing to throw into that large pile of hints and clues that Blizzard feeds us over time. Which is a good thing, because its one more thing that points toward a game. I dont think they would just be announcing a movie at a BlizCon (a gamers convention), and not a game...
Here is the original search, there is nothing unusual: http://battle.net/forums/thread-search.aspx?
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The word 'splash' yields five results. My thread is one of them. 'modified splash' shows only my thread. And I wont even bother searching posts for "splash". Normally I would check first, but thats pretty impossible with all of the things that have gone on recently.
Perhaps someone will see it that hasn't yet. Otherwise, I dont really care.
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Anyway, this is NOT official art. Someone did some edits to the splash image.
The last part still looks kinda cool tho, so I thought I'd post it here
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You're quite welcome. Its hard to tell where the red actually is, as its hard to isolate it without isolating the white. Personally, I'm not so sure there is more red in the middle. I see alot of gray that could be interpreted as having a little bit of shade. What the shade is depends on the eyes that are looking at it. I'm speaking of the recent splash though. I dont have all of the other images.
When you stack them, its quite possible that most of the red is toward the center. I did see the figure in your image, I'd bet that it isnt intentional though. You never know with Blizzard though.
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And because white has equal properties of color, it is displayed equally in all channels. In other words, when there is white on the screen, and you isolate the red channel, you aren't just seeing red, you are also seeing white.
There is red in the image, but no where near the amount that is suggested by the red channel.
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wtf is that from? lmao
As for the image. I played around with it in Photoshop last night. Didnt save it, but it wasnt much better than what has been posted. The left character clearly *looks* like an A but the right one I would say is definitely not a B. It looks more like a G if anything. The bottom portion is curved at too much of an extreme to be a B. But I think this image might not display writing. Below the area that everyone is focusing on there is an element that is common in vine type designs. I think thats what everything is - artistic engravings. Something you may see on armor, helmet, or even just wall.
Point is, it most likely isnt a logo. Its probably just a highly magnified point, most likely on a significant image, but on an area that is certain to not give the topic away.
www.clan-ngru.com
The actual trademark is the name that represents something. Artwork is only considered trademarked when it represents the name, otherwise it falls under copyright. As you said, colors can also be trademarked, as well as shapes/designs but its the word that these things represent that matters. And it doesnt matter what language the word is in, or what its true definition is.
It has everything to do with the reputation and knowledge of the word and its associated products within a given industry. In this case, it would be entertainment media. Being that Blizzard and its products are well known in the entertainment industry, including film, they have every right to claim ownership of that title in that realm, especially when its a high budged movie with a known action star.
If this were a brand of cereal, or a model of car, then they would have no claim, but it isnt.
Again, doesnt mean New Line or anyone else doesnt have a fight, but Blizzard certainly has one as well. And a strong one at that.
www.clan-ngru.com
Not do drag this out, because its quite obvious they can sue, because they did... But I’m quite sure that’s incorrect. I’m not an expert on the issue, but I’m a graphic artist and work with companies on a regular basis that talk about it (I’m not envolved in that aspect however). Though I have done some browsing on the subject in the past.
The main issue is the consumer, not the company’s intentions (though intent can also be considered). If a company can prove that consumers will mistakenly assume the product is associated with something that its not, then that’s all they need. It doesn’t matter whether the offender intended this or not.
Granted the word is from a specific language with a slightly unrelated meaning (the actual word Diablo does not directly reference the game made my Blizzard) though as someone one else pointed out, that’s irrelevant. The word represents the game, regardless of its true meaning.
Being that this would be an American movie staring Vin Diesal (I think) and probubly have some action involved, its quite possible that people would mistakenly think it might have to do with the Diablo game, which means New Line could easily profit from Blizzards work, which would be un lawfull.
If this were a documentary or a religious movie made in Mexico, things may be different as the difference of topics would be more obvious.
New Line could also argue that the difference will be evident enough, but Blizzard certainly has grounds to take legal action.
www.clan-ngru.com
Everything is speculation, and no matter what they say, we'll never know until an official announcement is made. But out of the three teams, the Starcraft one will be the first to decide whats next for Blizzard. The WoW team will have their hands full for a LONG time, and its safe to assume that the Starcraft team is further into development than Team 3, meaning their product will be released first, freeing them up, therefore allowing them to be first to decide on what to do next (most likely a Starcraft 2 expansion).
Anyway, by mentioning the Starcraft team with having the option of developing Warcraft (most likely due to what I said above) he has effectivley eliminated Team 3 from any possible Warcraft development...
Why? Because they are busy with something else...
www.clan-ngru.com
If you watch the video, he seems a little surprised at the subject of the question. However, I dont think this has anything to do with what he may feel is a lack of activity, interest, or development. I think its just the fact that he is conducting a mostly Warcraft oriented interview, and when the interviewer said "all the fans keep emailing us, so I have to ask" I bet quite a few things went through his head about features that did or didnt make it into the expansion, and then he gets hit with a Diablo question. As obvious as the subject is to us, it may not have been to him at that moment, therefore surprised him.
Also, as 'closed doors' as Blizzard is, I doubt he would mention 'things in development', unless it was directly related to the question at hand, and he didnt have much choice but to mention it.
So this pretty much officially confirms, as officially as a confirmation will get before an announcement, that they are infact working on it. Blizzard is just the kind of company that does not publicly announce they are working on a game from day 1. They have a kick ass cinematic team that is recognized worldwide by the computer graphics industry, and their game development is obviously damn good as well. So when they do announce something, they dont want to just mention it and let the hype slowly roll along over the next few years. They want to hit you with an amazing short video that will hook you, and then rather than release a few trailers over the next few years during development, they immediately show you a working product, and let you see first hand what to expect. They like to start with a bang, and build ON TO IT, not start with nothing, and build up to it.
Cant blame them there. They'll announce it when they are ready.
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You'll get server busy errors =D
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Told ya...
Of course they have no comment... This is either a mistake (the kind of mistake that gets people fired), or a marketing ploy that they knew fans would pick up on and keep us talking until August.
This is just one more thing to throw into that large pile of hints and clues that Blizzard feeds us over time. Which is a good thing, because its one more thing that points toward a game. I dont think they would just be announcing a movie at a BlizCon (a gamers convention), and not a game...
www.clan-ngru.com