The net effect on RIF is next to nothing...People can still invite anyone they want for the rift guardian+turn-in.
Doing RIF you realistically had to pay X number of keys per game to join and get the RG+Turn-in. (X being an average of rift tokens used to open divided by the number of times you've joined a RIF group). So it probably averages out to ~1 key per game anyway...
Everyone stacks pure all resistance which will fall under elemental reduction anyway. Better than devoting a valuable stat slot for mere reduction of a single element. On top of general resistances, many people stack elite damage reduction, which works far better because it applies to all elite affixes.
I didn't make it too clear but I was intending 'elemental reduction' to be all elements. People stack all resist but it also comes at an opportunity cost in some slots, so an additional ehp stat on the less dps centric items could improve a characters stats as a whole.
For a slot like chest, I'd much prefer elemental reduction than ranged/melee.
Also I'll have to read the elite reduction, I did not know it applied to the persistent elemental effects (like how resolve for monks doesn't reduce them).
Just like melee and ranged reduction it would be nice for an elemental damage reduction stat.
The biggest culprits for death are the undodgeable plagues/desecration/fire chains/lightning/molten. An additional stat to reduce these would improve itemization.
On a side note, I have noticed the decline in weapon prices but only on non-optimal items (non 63). 62 and below cannot roll over 65% crit damage, 600 or 650 loh, and I'm guessing lower mainstats as well. I guess it all depends what sort of market everyone is in.
** The discussion is great, its great to learn about another class. I just want to spread the info since echoing fury is cheap considering the hidden bonus.
Last weapon swung aps dictates the number of ticks and mainhand is the damage for sprint (ww takes either weapon).
In the case of sprint then echoing fury would have lower weapon damage to a similar dps unhasted mainhand but would have more ticks due to the aps of the offhand (if your paying that close attention). Other barb builds and monks would gain the full benefit of the aps to the offhand.
I can't remember how the weapon damage compares to other available weapons but the price point was great when I was looking. For a monk it means I can use a slow offhand to gain more damage from the aps and slow weapons are cheap for monks!
I believe they are moving towards a difficulty setting also (besides normal-inferno).
This would be amazing because I'd love to farm different areas of the game with the same difficulty/drops as act3/4. I've been clearing act 3 since pre 1.03 and its getting kind of stale even with the new legendaries. If I could set act 1 or 2 to a higher setting this would be great for replayability.
I would also be happy with another higher difficulty setting such as what was originally in place. But I'm a sucker for competition and challenge, however I'm not sold on lag/bug/etc deaths that I have no control over quite yet (hardcore mode).
If your using a 1.67 speed dagger in your offhand, echoing fury will increase it to 1.87-1.92 aps which directly increases the number of tornadoes you spawn.
Dude, LoH is nothing once you get enough dmg... All you need is a high LL mod on your belt and/or OH weapon
stop being such a noob
Yeah sorry, Im a noob :/. I got enought dmg already, 94k unbuffed with my WW barb and you tell me LoH dosnt matter? Yeah keep dreaming
And yeah i found a LoH rolled one but meh. I rather not gear to much on my weapon choises on my barb. Only armor, but kinda hard to top them aswell.
If you don't use a spreadsheet you could just approximate the dps bonus to offhand by adding 10% of your overall dps. At 94k dps thats a 10k bonus for you!
Looks good, needs LL/Loh or critdmg + socket and over 1k to be worth using tho
There are always stats to balance out on gear, but you can change other pieces also. The price on sockets or other stats is cheap compared to what else you can buy. Are you including a ~20% damage bonus to your offhand?
LL/Loh is both class and gear dependent for how much you need.
Practice and tactics can make difficult things manageable.
As a possible change in perspective:
Two million gold spent is very small. If you are doing good in act 1 and starting into act 2 with two million invested, thats great! Act 2 is realistically the 2nd hardest area of the game as act 3 and 4 are relatively close.
There are lots of upgrading and playtime ahead, keep up the good work.
PS. At act 3/4 farming level, I'm lucky to find any single item for less than 4 or 5million that improves my stats. Consider how well you are doing with 2million on everything.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
Possibly something with retrofitting the old SS at the same time as introducing new rolls?
Edit: Mine sounds the same as NHunter mentioned on page 2.
Doing RIF you realistically had to pay X number of keys per game to join and get the RG+Turn-in. (X being an average of rift tokens used to open divided by the number of times you've joined a RIF group). So it probably averages out to ~1 key per game anyway...
Net change is next to nothing to RIF.
Greater Rifts are another story.
I didn't make it too clear but I was intending 'elemental reduction' to be all elements. People stack all resist but it also comes at an opportunity cost in some slots, so an additional ehp stat on the less dps centric items could improve a characters stats as a whole.
For a slot like chest, I'd much prefer elemental reduction than ranged/melee.
Also I'll have to read the elite reduction, I did not know it applied to the persistent elemental effects (like how resolve for monks doesn't reduce them).
Cold damage doesn't really kill people however. The only dangerous part is the stun which falls under the cc reduction % stat.
The biggest culprits for death are the undodgeable plagues/desecration/fire chains/lightning/molten. An additional stat to reduce these would improve itemization.
Thoughts?
** The discussion is great, its great to learn about another class. I just want to spread the info since echoing fury is cheap considering the hidden bonus.
Last weapon swung aps dictates the number of ticks and mainhand is the damage for sprint (ww takes either weapon).
In the case of sprint then echoing fury would have lower weapon damage to a similar dps unhasted mainhand but would have more ticks due to the aps of the offhand (if your paying that close attention). Other barb builds and monks would gain the full benefit of the aps to the offhand.
I can't remember how the weapon damage compares to other available weapons but the price point was great when I was looking. For a monk it means I can use a slow offhand to gain more damage from the aps and slow weapons are cheap for monks!
This would be amazing because I'd love to farm different areas of the game with the same difficulty/drops as act3/4. I've been clearing act 3 since pre 1.03 and its getting kind of stale even with the new legendaries. If I could set act 1 or 2 to a higher setting this would be great for replayability.
I would also be happy with another higher difficulty setting such as what was originally in place. But I'm a sucker for competition and challenge, however I'm not sold on lag/bug/etc deaths that I have no control over quite yet (hardcore mode).
If your using a 1.67 speed dagger in your offhand, echoing fury will increase it to 1.87-1.92 aps which directly increases the number of tornadoes you spawn.
If you don't use a spreadsheet you could just approximate the dps bonus to offhand by adding 10% of your overall dps. At 94k dps thats a 10k bonus for you!
There are always stats to balance out on gear, but you can change other pieces also. The price on sockets or other stats is cheap compared to what else you can buy. Are you including a ~20% damage bonus to your offhand?
LL/Loh is both class and gear dependent for how much you need.
The weapon can roll with LoH and a socket or Crit and socket etc etc.
I am dissappointed with Inna's set lacking survival stats....
Short duration.
Fears elites.
Mostly stay in place when feared.
Survival boost and ~20% damage increase, how can anything compete?
Was searching for this on D3 forums and found some interesting info, the attacks per second apply to the offhand also.
Tested myself and definitely true, you can see it from having a different speed offhand and swinging.
This boosts your offhand damage by a huge amount, in the15-22% range!
Not only that it can roll mega high dps.
As a possible change in perspective:
Two million gold spent is very small. If you are doing good in act 1 and starting into act 2 with two million invested, thats great! Act 2 is realistically the 2nd hardest area of the game as act 3 and 4 are relatively close.
There are lots of upgrading and playtime ahead, keep up the good work.
PS. At act 3/4 farming level, I'm lucky to find any single item for less than 4 or 5million that improves my stats. Consider how well you are doing with 2million on everything.