One of the things I loved from Diablo games was the sense of ownership I got from all of my rare loot, I mean that after looting, hunting for gems and collecting everything Ï needed I would be able to craft one awesome piece of equipment, and then having a great feeling of achievement.
I would like that in Diablo III this customization of Items to be deepened, to see a more expanded crafting system that allows me to customize every aspect of the item, like how it looks, what type of benefits it gets, with also the ability to brand the Items with it's creator name.
With that item trading could get a different kick out of it, I can imagine seeing an item that I made and being able to say "hey I made that", also if there were any kind of player corpse looting, the champion of a duel would get something more as a trophy, a piece of equipment with his adversary name on it.
I loved the book too! and all its characters, now I'm trying to get a copy of Moon of the Spider as the events in that book happen after those of Kingdom of Shadow.
One thing tho..., I don't want to be too spoilerific, but all of us who already read the book know what happens to Ureh in the end, so in which way are we getting Ureh in Diablo III? Maybe this is a hit to time travel in D3, are we going back in time to see "The Light among Lights" in its former glory? Or just as a ruined city in the middle of a Jungle? Although in the pic it does not look ruined at all.
I actually went to read the book when it was suggested from the cinematic that this was Ureh, and gotta say I'm glad I read it, awesome book.
And now having Ureh in Diablo III we can be sure we will see some returning characters from Kingdom of Shadow, more so after reading this:
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"We also tried to focus a little more on bringing characters back, and not just from Diablo II but from Diablo I," he said. "We feel like a lot of the focus is on Diablo II but Diablo Istarted it all and has a lot of really good stuff on the gameplay side and on the character side. So people can expect to see characters from Diablo I, more characters from Diablo II, and characters from some of the books. We're definitely going to bring a few of them in."
I'm more than sure that we are going to see Zayl as an NPC with Humbart (Hopefully! :D) and it would be nice to have Kentril as well.
You people worry too much. There will be dark, gritty Diablo defining atmospheres. They showed a very small portion of the game. Calm down.
They showed us what imho is an important aspect of the game if this is what they are showing at the announcement of a game that we have been expecting for 8 years!, then I can assure you that the rest of it wont be much different, it doesn't make sense for them to say:
Guy 1: So what part of Diablo are we going to show at WWI 08 to surpraise everyone?!
Guy 2: I know!, lets show the less Diablo like part of the game for the announcement and keep the real gothic, gritty darker part of the game, what you guys think?
I'm going to trust them and just wait until I actually play DIII to see how it feels.
Well I can understand that, I actually have mixed feelings about it too, since when you hear them talk about it you can sort of feel their commitment, but then I start looking at the the screenshots and I can help being nervous about it, what if it's like we actualy feared?
I don't want to run that risk, and I'm sure that a little change in the lighting and pallette colors would do huge improvements about the way most of us feel at the art direction.
Well I was going to post this in the Diablo III Art Direction discussion but it is closed now, so I guess I'll make a new thread, I hope this hasn't been discussed somewhere else.
Here are some of the points discussed at the Diablo III Art Panel, you can watch or download the video at Gamespot, there is also a very interesting Interview with Rob Pardo.
Anyhow here are the pics:
This is the guy behind the art direction and the reason for Diablo III looking as it does now, basically he choose how everything would look and the reason for it.....
A Summary of all the point that were discussed at the Art Panel at WWI 08, I'll point out a few of them (the ones of interest to this thread) and amply it further.
One wonders how Diablo III art direction is going in the direction it's going with guidelines like this ones....
I think this says it all...
And here we can see that the actual use of color in Diablo III in intentional, I'll explain the reason that Bill Morrismroe is giving for it.
Ok so the general idea as they say is to use color as a way to lead you on your way thru the game, supposely we should notice darker more gothic areas as the need to convey that mood grows, he says that Diablo 1 & 2 had a static gothic look going for it all the time and it was harder to make it darker as you got deeper into the game.
He also claimed that the general idea is make Diablo darker in "Emotion" rather than just darker looking.
So.. there you have it, discuss
EDIT:
Oh also this was at the end of the Panel, doesn't mean anything but I'll just add it for the heck of it
Diablo's got to have his pink dress. Without color he can't make a fashion statement, which is his job really: Is he not known as the Satin ? Lord of Fashion. Yellow is the new Black.
Seriously, all of this sounded to me like Blizzard was doing this on purpose from the beggining. But what would they get? I doubt it is a prank, because they're risking a major lot by staking their competence on the line there. It's all very confusing.
If they happen to make a claim that this was all a joke, I'll know for sure that it's not true. They would just be saving their skins and good name.
That's when I'll tell them: Fuck you! I haven't had a decent night's sleep these last few days dreading the rainbows, fuzzy bunnies and unicorns.
If by any chance there is some truth in this crazy theory of mine and they have been playing us for fools all along,all the while keeping grotesquity, blood and gore from me then know this Blizzard: you've lost your good name in one of your ' fans' .
Well gimme a couple of minutes and I'll post the screenies of them explaining why this was done that way and most of the Art director reasons for it.
Signed the petition, I'm guessing that it has been posted also in the Diablo III official forums at battlenet, if not it needs to be there.
I'm hoping for a change really, while I saw all the videos and interviews hosted at gamespot they made it clear how they actually done all this changes on purpose, in one of the presentation there is a slide that reads "Don't be afraid of color" :(.
Well since this thread is just too huge for me to read and find out I'll post this at the risk of it being said already...
I'm watching the interview with rob pardo that game spot has and he is actually saying that all the changes and all the stuff we been discussion are actually intentional, He mentioned games like God of War and how he wanted to add some elements of its gameplay to Diablo III, also he clearly said that both Diablo 1 & 2 had the gothic look going for it but they THOUGHT it lacked color so they decided add brighter more vivid color while (dunno how) keeping the gothic feel :confused:.
But he also said that the general idea of announcing the game now is to get the opinion of the Diablo fanbase, this said he mentioned having done this with SC2 and that it also brought changes on the direction that the game was taking, if any this means that we still have a chance of sulling a little more our beloved Diablo.
He also said another interesting thing on about how long they been working on it and how far they are in development (without talking percentages)
For those who haven't seen it and the other videos go here:
Sadly they are aiming for younger audience.. It's all about money dude.
How can they be aiming at younger audience when the game is rated 16+ :rolleyes:
And I completely agree with this thread, the first thing that it came to my mind when I saw the gameplay trailer was that there were too many light color, and besides that most of creatures I have seen so far don't have the rusted defiled and decayed look to them, take the skeleton with the shield for example, the shield shines with a bright blue light as if enchanted, I prefer when it looked like some random corpse just stood up with its rusted and decayed equipment.
That said I have hopes that there will be some changes, as the guy presenting the demo said "Nothing at this stage is final" meaning that anything could be changed.
If the art direction stays as it is, I would be forced to give Diablo III an 4 out of 5 instead of a full 5/5.
Have fun MD!, and if you are bored and find yourself alone with nothing to do...., you can always break into the conference room before tomorrow and get some first hand information about Diablo III
As someone said before, diabloii.net are one of the most trusted diablo fan sites, plus just like us at diablofans.com they won't post any fake information or make something up because they are waiting for Diablo III as much as we are, and besides iif they are going as far as saying Diablo III will be announced this Saturday and risk being victims of the fanboy rage that would be caused if this turns out to be a lie, then it gotta be true or atleast they believe it in their hearts to be so.
That being said..... :thumbsup: I'M GETTING FUCKING DRUNK TONIGHT!!!! :thumbsup:
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I would like that in Diablo III this customization of Items to be deepened, to see a more expanded crafting system that allows me to customize every aspect of the item, like how it looks, what type of benefits it gets, with also the ability to brand the Items with it's creator name.
With that item trading could get a different kick out of it, I can imagine seeing an item that I made and being able to say "hey I made that", also if there were any kind of player corpse looting, the champion of a duel would get something more as a trophy, a piece of equipment with his adversary name on it.
One thing tho..., I don't want to be too spoilerific, but all of us who already read the book know what happens to Ureh in the end, so in which way are we getting Ureh in Diablo III? Maybe this is a hit to time travel in D3, are we going back in time to see "The Light among Lights" in its former glory? Or just as a ruined city in the middle of a Jungle? Although in the pic it does not look ruined at all.
Meh I want answers!
I actually went to read the book when it was suggested from the cinematic that this was Ureh, and gotta say I'm glad I read it, awesome book.
And now having Ureh in Diablo III we can be sure we will see some returning characters from Kingdom of Shadow, more so after reading this:
I'm more than sure that we are going to see Zayl as an NPC with Humbart (Hopefully! :D) and it would be nice to have Kentril as well.
Blizzard owns the frachise but the people that created it left Blizzard long ago with the banishing of Blizzard North.
Some of you sound more like Blizzard fans then Diablo fans, which is not the same.
They showed us what imho is an important aspect of the game if this is what they are showing at the announcement of a game that we have been expecting for 8 years!, then I can assure you that the rest of it wont be much different, it doesn't make sense for them to say:
Guy 1: So what part of Diablo are we going to show at WWI 08 to surpraise everyone?!
Guy 2: I know!, lets show the less Diablo like part of the game for the announcement and keep the real gothic, gritty darker part of the game, what you guys think?
Everyone: Agreed!
Well I can understand that, I actually have mixed feelings about it too, since when you hear them talk about it you can sort of feel their commitment, but then I start looking at the the screenshots and I can help being nervous about it, what if it's like we actualy feared?
I don't want to run that risk, and I'm sure that a little change in the lighting and pallette colors would do huge improvements about the way most of us feel at the art direction.
Here are some of the points discussed at the Diablo III Art Panel, you can watch or download the video at Gamespot, there is also a very interesting Interview with Rob Pardo.
Anyhow here are the pics:
This is the guy behind the art direction and the reason for Diablo III looking as it does now, basically he choose how everything would look and the reason for it.....
A Summary of all the point that were discussed at the Art Panel at WWI 08, I'll point out a few of them (the ones of interest to this thread) and amply it further.
One wonders how Diablo III art direction is going in the direction it's going with guidelines like this ones....
I think this says it all...
And here we can see that the actual use of color in Diablo III in intentional, I'll explain the reason that Bill Morrismroe is giving for it.
Ok so the general idea as they say is to use color as a way to lead you on your way thru the game, supposely we should notice darker more gothic areas as the need to convey that mood grows, he says that Diablo 1 & 2 had a static gothic look going for it all the time and it was harder to make it darker as you got deeper into the game.
He also claimed that the general idea is make Diablo darker in "Emotion" rather than just darker looking.
So.. there you have it, discuss
EDIT:
Oh also this was at the end of the Panel, doesn't mean anything but I'll just add it for the heck of it
Well gimme a couple of minutes and I'll post the screenies of them explaining why this was done that way and most of the Art director reasons for it.
I'm hoping for a change really, while I saw all the videos and interviews hosted at gamespot they made it clear how they actually done all this changes on purpose, in one of the presentation there is a slide that reads "Don't be afraid of color" :(.
I'm watching the interview with rob pardo that game spot has and he is actually saying that all the changes and all the stuff we been discussion are actually intentional, He mentioned games like God of War and how he wanted to add some elements of its gameplay to Diablo III, also he clearly said that both Diablo 1 & 2 had the gothic look going for it but they THOUGHT it lacked color so they decided add brighter more vivid color while (dunno how) keeping the gothic feel :confused:.
But he also said that the general idea of announcing the game now is to get the opinion of the Diablo fanbase, this said he mentioned having done this with SC2 and that it also brought changes on the direction that the game was taking, if any this means that we still have a chance of sulling a little more our beloved Diablo.
He also said another interesting thing on about how long they been working on it and how far they are in development (without talking percentages)
For those who haven't seen it and the other videos go here:
http://www.gamespot.com/videos/index.html?tag=nav-top;videos&navclk=videos
Diablo = Santuary, Santuary = not real, play the games, read the lore then come back.
Anyhow now I know what was in my mind when I saw this
And it was this
Anyone who has played WoW, know the similarities.
How can they be aiming at younger audience when the game is rated 16+ :rolleyes:
And I completely agree with this thread, the first thing that it came to my mind when I saw the gameplay trailer was that there were too many light color, and besides that most of creatures I have seen so far don't have the rusted defiled and decayed look to them, take the skeleton with the shield for example, the shield shines with a bright blue light as if enchanted, I prefer when it looked like some random corpse just stood up with its rusted and decayed equipment.
That said I have hopes that there will be some changes, as the guy presenting the demo said "Nothing at this stage is final" meaning that anything could be changed.
If the art direction stays as it is, I would be forced to give Diablo III an 4 out of 5 instead of a full 5/5.
http://www.xfire.com/cms/xf_wwi08/
I like some pc gamers said have started to do de pee-pee dance
Have fun MD!, and if you are bored and find yourself alone with nothing to do...., you can always break into the conference room before tomorrow and get some first hand information about Diablo III
That being said..... :thumbsup: I'M GETTING FUCKING DRUNK TONIGHT!!!! :thumbsup: