ok, but for me to read them i would have to start again, i dont have any chars that havent finished the act 5 yet. i suppose i could use an editor to cheat myself into act 5.
but feel free to chim in every once and awhile. also good to have a lore expert in discussions like this.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
though you could have just given us some quotes, save us the time of having to play the game to find these speeches, assuming we dont have the time to play.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
doesnt it also protect Harrogath, somewhat similar to the Gibdinn in act III?
thats is why the fear they will not survive the seige much longer without the relic. luckily there isnt much game left when it goes missing, its been a while since ive played but i dont think it was missing when you first arrived in act 5. can anyone confirm or disprove this.
where in the burning hells is Solomir? he seems to be wuite the lore Expert.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
mostly likely thru an emmisary. i doubt Baal would make a personal appearance.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
i think its more of a ward that make the holder invisible in a sense. the one who holds it can pass freely passed the guardians.
im not sure if it has any other powers but it might, it never says it does.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
But at any rate, the Nephilim were indeed powerful. Baal probably surmised that he could not defeat them and thus struck a deal with Nihlathak for the Relic. Just as in the books, both demons and angels fear and are wary of the Nephilim.
it difinitely seems that way, Baal could not defeat them with his massive army or by himself so he secured another method of getting by them, a trade of sorts, and i sure Baal had no plan to keep his end of the bargin, whatever it was he was willing to offer Nihlathak, power or whatever it was.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
Wow. Nice comeback, Elfen. Even a quote to go with it. High-five.
*hive five* thats how i roll.
dont know if there will be more of them in d3, maybe.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
hmm it never actually says how they were born out of the chaos, simply that they were, it also never says why the are ordered in "age" like they are simply that they are.
Diablo simply means devil, not the devil.
Mephisto is a shortened version of Mephistopheles, another name for the most powerful demon or devil, Lucifer.
Baal is another name for Beelzebub, a very highly ranked demon.
but Beelzebub is the third most powerful demon know to exist. yet Baal seems to be the most powerful, weird?
with Mephisto being somewhat based on the demon Mephistopheles (Lucifer) you would expect him to be harder if not the hardest. he is the older of the three, he should have more skills and knowledge
-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
Baal seems to be the more powerful of the 3, but prehaps that is just due to his nature, He is the Lord of Destruction. Destruction to me seems more powerful than Terror or Hatred.
on a side note, Diablo is said to be the youngest of the three, and Mephisto is said to be the oldest.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
yeh it not my fav moive but its a good one. i actually prefer the cinematic where diablo assumes his true form, its pretty good graphics for back then.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
Who he thinks he is speaking to though isn't that relevant.
thats why i corrected myself
He is in the beginnig healthy, even through his expereinces in the monastery. He later journey's with Diablo,and continues to look healthy. Now, this could imply that the soulstone corrupted him, but it might just as well be the poor living conditions in the Asylum.
But at the same time, he has worn the stone close to himself constantly for five years. He emphazises the stone when saying "look what the stone..." That could although also mean the chain of events the stone caused him.
Either way, a conclusion seems hard to get with the facts we have.
i like to think more along the lines of chains of events, seeing as the whole thing has well forced him into an asylum.
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Baal is disguised as Tyrael so he can reclaim his soulstone, marius would give Baal his soulstone back, but Tyrael he gave mankind the stones in the first place surely he can be trusted to take the stone...
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he still thinks Baal is Tyrael at that point remember. wait what? that doesnt have much to do with what you said, except for clearing up who marius thinks he is talking too.
can you not wave something in someone face and talk about how badly its messed your life up?
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but feel free to chim in every once and awhile. also good to have a lore expert in discussions like this.
all the elders except for Nihlathak are dead.
though you could have just given us some quotes, save us the time of having to play the game to find these speeches, assuming we dont have the time to play.
thats is why the fear they will not survive the seige much longer without the relic. luckily there isnt much game left when it goes missing, its been a while since ive played but i dont think it was missing when you first arrived in act 5. can anyone confirm or disprove this.
where in the burning hells is Solomir? he seems to be wuite the lore Expert.
im not sure if it has any other powers but it might, it never says it does.
it difinitely seems that way, Baal could not defeat them with his massive army or by himself so he secured another method of getting by them, a trade of sorts, and i sure Baal had no plan to keep his end of the bargin, whatever it was he was willing to offer Nihlathak, power or whatever it was.
*hive five* thats how i roll.
dont know if there will be more of them in d3, maybe.
"we are the Nephilim...."
Diablo simply means devil, not the devil.
Mephisto is a shortened version of Mephistopheles, another name for the most powerful demon or devil, Lucifer.
Baal is another name for Beelzebub, a very highly ranked demon.
but Beelzebub is the third most powerful demon know to exist. yet Baal seems to be the most powerful, weird?
with Mephisto being somewhat based on the demon Mephistopheles (Lucifer) you would expect him to be harder if not the hardest. he is the older of the three, he should have more skills and knowledge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_devils
Baal seems to be the more powerful of the 3, but prehaps that is just due to his nature, He is the Lord of Destruction. Destruction to me seems more powerful than Terror or Hatred.
on a side note, Diablo is said to be the youngest of the three, and Mephisto is said to be the oldest.
still it made for some interesting cinematics.
i like to think more along the lines of chains of events, seeing as the whole thing has well forced him into an asylum.
Baal is disguised as Tyrael so he can reclaim his soulstone, marius would give Baal his soulstone back, but Tyrael he gave mankind the stones in the first place surely he can be trusted to take the stone...
can you not wave something in someone face and talk about how badly its messed your life up?