Yes it's a very fun game. But by no means is it an RPG.
it is very much an RPG
- you have a skill tree (one skill per level)
- you build character stats
- you follow a story line (role) where you have variable outcomes
- you customize you character appearance, armor, and weaponry
- there are quests that both affect the main storyline and side quests
- the developers even made homage to classic turn-by-turn fighting style
in actuality Fallout 3 is more of an RPG than any of the Diablo games, its just that people generally can't accept that a game is both a RPG and a first-person shooter
Uh World of Warcraft. Last time I checked it was a massive multiplayer online ROLE PLAYING GAME. MMORPG. But I could be wrong. But you said free, so WOW is out.
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- you have a skill tree (one skill per level)
- you build character stats
- you follow a story line (role) where you have variable outcomes
- you customize you character appearance, armor, and weaponry
- there are quests that both affect the main storyline and side quests
- the developers even made homage to classic turn-by-turn fighting style
in actuality Fallout 3 is more of an RPG than any of the Diablo games, its just that people generally can't accept that a game is both a RPG and a first-person shooter
Let us compromise a little, yes? Okay, it's not that it is totally not an RPG. But it has fewer RPG elements than most supposed RPGs I've ever played.
Okay, you can level up and upgrade stats, that's RPGish.
As for following a storyline with variable outcomes, in Fallout 3, you have a few choices of what you want to do in some sidequests, but in the mainquests, you really only have that main choice at the end whether to distribute the virus or not in the water. And that only slightly alters the end cinematic. The sidequests hade more options than any of the mainquests did.
The level at which you can customize your character is pretty impressive from an RPG standpoint, but to what end? The only time you see your character is either when you rotate the camera around or during those VATS sequences. It's nothing like Mass Effect where your character is in the story, talking to people and reacting to characters. I just wondered what the point of all that character customization in Oblivion and Fallout 3 was for if your character never even utters a word during the whole game. It doesn't seem very roleplaying to me.
But then, I've played RPGs where you do little to no character customization in terms of appearance. What matters is that your character is really involved in the story and not just some silent observer. And that's what my character feels like in Fallout 3.
As for the turn based combat that Fallout 3 did, that's not necessarily an RPG thing. And while there is the VATS system, it is not turn based in Fallout 3. Your enemies do no take their turn to target you in anything but real time. Very different than how it was done in Fallout 1 and 2.
So yes, in some ways Fallout 3 is an RPG. But I think in more ways it is just nothing more than a sophisticated simulation which lacks story depth, a thing that RPGs really need to be deserving of the name.
Try Titan Quest, it's not free but you can find it pretty cheap if you look hard enough. People were calling it D3 wannabe back when it came out so you might like it.
-Balder Gates series
-Icewind Dale series
-Oblivion
-Morrowind
-Fallout series
-Planescape Torment(nvr played it but hear its godly)
-Dungeon Siege 2...maybe 1
-Titan Quest
-World of Warcraft(ignor the hate it gets its a really top notch game in every way)
-The Witcher
-Zelda
-Secret of mana
-Diablo 1 and 2
Thats all i can think of off the top of my head...im sure theres a ton more
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I disagree. Diablo has always been almost exclusively plot driven, rather than character driven.
There still very rpgish tho. With all the character upgrading you do
I think that people simply have another definition of "RPG" then you do.
It would be nice if RPGs were defined by being character driven, but what would we call games like Diablo where the character gets to manipulate their stats as they level up (or whatever the equivelent is)?
Usually the term used here is Action RPG, which I do find to be a more fitting description.
In either case, most games suggested here are all solid titles, but perhaps a bit old. I know myself that if may often be hard to grasp older games if you didn't play them while they were new. if you are specifically looking for something similar to Diablo however, then perhaps Titan Quest or Sacred 1&2 might be good options.
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BTW Fallout 3 is amazing! and if your looking for a game that is free and an RPG, try Guild wars, it's basicly a more realistic, (better graphics) and less generic version of WoW.
Fallout 3 is an FPS with some RPG elements tacked on. The Diablo games are RPGs.
I kind of hate to keep yapping off of topic but I really have to disagree with you. I suppose it does come down to what is your personal definition of an RPG so I would have to ask what are your criteria? I mean by saying that Fallout3 isn't an RPG then by extension you are also saying that Oblivion isn't an RPG since they are virtually the same game just with different 'time periods' and therefor one game uses swords and the other pistols. Both games use:
-Quest systems that outline a specific storyline with many tangents and outcomes.
-Chacter stat manipulation and growth.
-Skill-point development that greatly affect character strategy.
-A great deal of character customization in overall appearance, weaponry, and clothing/armor/accessories.
-Dialog in which the player can steer the conversation.
And its not like any of these traits are merely tacked on but instead are heavily focussed on, which by my definition means RPG. The Diablo games which barely touch these traits are RPG so why not a game that is also FPS?
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yes thats a good one
Played it for way to long, but yes it was a great game
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it is very much an RPG
- you have a skill tree (one skill per level)
- you build character stats
- you follow a story line (role) where you have variable outcomes
- you customize you character appearance, armor, and weaponry
- there are quests that both affect the main storyline and side quests
- the developers even made homage to classic turn-by-turn fighting style
in actuality Fallout 3 is more of an RPG than any of the Diablo games, its just that people generally can't accept that a game is both a RPG and a first-person shooter
Titan Quest. Arcanum, Neverwinter Nights, Icewind Dale, Temple of Elemental Evil
Oh and Planetscape Torment for sures. For sures.
Legend of Zelda?
Uh World of Warcraft. Last time I checked it was a massive multiplayer online ROLE PLAYING GAME. MMORPG. But I could be wrong. But you said free, so WOW is out.
Okay, you can level up and upgrade stats, that's RPGish.
As for following a storyline with variable outcomes, in Fallout 3, you have a few choices of what you want to do in some sidequests, but in the mainquests, you really only have that main choice at the end whether to distribute the virus or not in the water. And that only slightly alters the end cinematic. The sidequests hade more options than any of the mainquests did.
The level at which you can customize your character is pretty impressive from an RPG standpoint, but to what end? The only time you see your character is either when you rotate the camera around or during those VATS sequences. It's nothing like Mass Effect where your character is in the story, talking to people and reacting to characters. I just wondered what the point of all that character customization in Oblivion and Fallout 3 was for if your character never even utters a word during the whole game. It doesn't seem very roleplaying to me.
But then, I've played RPGs where you do little to no character customization in terms of appearance. What matters is that your character is really involved in the story and not just some silent observer. And that's what my character feels like in Fallout 3.
As for the turn based combat that Fallout 3 did, that's not necessarily an RPG thing. And while there is the VATS system, it is not turn based in Fallout 3. Your enemies do no take their turn to target you in anything but real time. Very different than how it was done in Fallout 1 and 2.
So yes, in some ways Fallout 3 is an RPG. But I think in more ways it is just nothing more than a sophisticated simulation which lacks story depth, a thing that RPGs really need to be deserving of the name.
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-Icewind Dale series
-Oblivion
-Morrowind
-Fallout series
-Planescape Torment(nvr played it but hear its godly)
-Dungeon Siege 2...maybe 1
-Titan Quest
-World of Warcraft(ignor the hate it gets its a really top notch game in every way)
-The Witcher
-Zelda
-Secret of mana
-Diablo 1 and 2
Thats all i can think of off the top of my head...im sure theres a ton more
There still very rpgish tho. With all the character upgrading you do
You might want to try it, I think it tops diablo 2 in the pvp aspec.
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In either case, most games suggested here are all solid titles, but perhaps a bit old. I know myself that if may often be hard to grasp older games if you didn't play them while they were new. if you are specifically looking for something similar to Diablo however, then perhaps Titan Quest or Sacred 1&2 might be good options.
Also, definitely check out Divine Divinity. In my opinion, easily one of the best isometric RPG's ever created. Skip Beyond Divinity.
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I kind of hate to keep yapping off of topic but I really have to disagree with you. I suppose it does come down to what is your personal definition of an RPG so I would have to ask what are your criteria? I mean by saying that Fallout3 isn't an RPG then by extension you are also saying that Oblivion isn't an RPG since they are virtually the same game just with different 'time periods' and therefor one game uses swords and the other pistols. Both games use:
-Quest systems that outline a specific storyline with many tangents and outcomes.
-Chacter stat manipulation and growth.
-Skill-point development that greatly affect character strategy.
-A great deal of character customization in overall appearance, weaponry, and clothing/armor/accessories.
-Dialog in which the player can steer the conversation.
And its not like any of these traits are merely tacked on but instead are heavily focussed on, which by my definition means RPG. The Diablo games which barely touch these traits are RPG so why not a game that is also FPS?