Okay so it's time for me to get an upgrade. This one just hasn't got the power to run games that are coming out nowadays smoothly on full.
My budget is at the very max 1000$.
I was looking at this one, seems pretty good for the price was just wondering if anyone else had some suggestions.
Building one is out of the question as I'm sure I'd find some way to ruin it terribly. I've installed GPU's and RAM but am not comfortable at all with building it all from scratch.
Second I need a new laptop as well, the old one died completely. I'm not really looking for a gaming laptop but one that can browse, watch movies on, maybe play some minor games on, nothing too fancy.
I don't have too much knowledge on laptops, the last we bought was pretty terrible.
Building one is out of the question as I'm sure I'd find some way to ruin it terribly. I've installed GPU's and RAM but am not comfortable at all with building it all from scratch.
Building computers is really simple! You shouldn't completely rule out this option. It's just like lego but with bigger and more expensive bits.
I ended up building my computer about 1.5 years ago, and I'll agree before that I had no experience and was scared something would break =) But believe me it's actually super damn easy.
BUT, I know that a place like tigerdirect.com will build your computer. You are MUCH better off selecting every piece of your computer instead of buying a pre built one.
Personally, don't waste money on alienware or the like if you don't have the bucks to blow. The only difference between my desktop I built and an alienware of comparable stats would be ~2k, and some flashy lights. Built mine for ~1200, I see desktops with worse stats going for 2.5-3k +.
If you don't build it yourself, grab a nerdy friend who will help you, or get a website to build it =)
Well I just added it up and if I bought all the parts separately it would be 920$, so 999$ is not a bad deal AT ALL. I think I'll go with that one if they're still available once I round up the cash.
Well I just added it up and if I bought all the parts separately it would be 920$, so 999$ is not a bad deal AT ALL. I think I'll go with that one if they're still available once I round up the cash.
That's actually not that bad, in our stores (in Soviet Russia so to say) they sell stuff with "M" graphic cards (mobile) and other crap for the same money. And what's worse there are people buing it out of ignorance.
But still. I don't know your prices tbh, but I could've bought similar PC for about $100 less or more 'cause an illegal copy of Windows is not a concern here =)
I'll recommend to first find out if where ever you're going to buy from, if they can assemble the pc for you. It's a fact that pre build pc's are much more expensive than buying the components apart. Even with the assembly charged, it will work out cheaper OR the same as the pre build one, but MUCH better!
As for being scared of building it yourself, I order my pc just before xmas and got all the parts a couple of days after. It was the first pc I ever build myself. My brother was with me just to help and keep an eye on things. I was also scared of breaking stuff, but it really is easy! The hardest part for me was installing the cpu...and that was easy. It was just the fact that when you push down the small lever to install the cpu, you have to FORCE that motherfucker down! But all went well and the pc is still working fine!
It's almost the same, except the processor is a 2500k instead of a 2600k. The graphics card is a HD6870 though vs the HD6850 in the first one. So basically you trade a bit of CPU power vs GPU power. The main difference of 2500k vs 2600k is that the latter has hyperthreading which basically lets the CPU run double the amount of threads on the four cores. This is great for certain applications (such as movie compression, rendering and that kind of stuff) that can make use of 8 threads, but for games, which usually has very poor multi-threading capability you won't notice a difference. The HD6870 will be an improvement though. So solely for gaming this rig will have better performance. If you are into other stuff that you know uses many threads then the 2600k is probably the better choice though.
I looked around on other sites as well but it's hard to find pre-built stuff that has good value for money. Almost all manufacturers save in on the GPU and it costs a shitload extra if you want to upgrade it.. And still they label it "gamer"..
Anyway the newegg pack is pretty good except maybe that the PSU is from a generally unknown brand, but you should probably do ok with it. If you are considering building it yourself (or can find some other site that does assembly for you) then come again and we can help you put something together :).
Well there is always the potential of a leak, which doesn't necessarily have to completely ruin your system (as the liquid is non conductive) but it could still be a nuisance. That said it's not something that commonly happens unless you assemble it yourself and does it poorly (and with that I mean custom liquid cooling. Coolers such as Corsair H80 shouldn't leak ever.)
Why are you asking though? I wouldn't recommend liquid cooling for your price point since a good air cooler usually can keep up with liquid but for a cheaper price.
My budget is at the very max 1000$.
I was looking at this one, seems pretty good for the price was just wondering if anyone else had some suggestions.
Building one is out of the question as I'm sure I'd find some way to ruin it terribly. I've installed GPU's and RAM but am not comfortable at all with building it all from scratch.
I found this one for not much more but with a lot better hardware: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227386
Second I need a new laptop as well, the old one died completely. I'm not really looking for a gaming laptop but one that can browse, watch movies on, maybe play some minor games on, nothing too fancy.
I don't have too much knowledge on laptops, the last we bought was pretty terrible.
Budget for the laptop is around 800$ max.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Building computers is really simple! You shouldn't completely rule out this option. It's just like lego but with bigger and more expensive bits.
I'm the guy that uses his teeth to pry apart legos that are stuck together.
And if I break it? Then what? I'm computerless.
BUT, I know that a place like tigerdirect.com will build your computer. You are MUCH better off selecting every piece of your computer instead of buying a pre built one.
Personally, don't waste money on alienware or the like if you don't have the bucks to blow. The only difference between my desktop I built and an alienware of comparable stats would be ~2k, and some flashy lights. Built mine for ~1200, I see desktops with worse stats going for 2.5-3k +.
If you don't build it yourself, grab a nerdy friend who will help you, or get a website to build it =)
But still. I don't know your prices tbh, but I could've bought similar PC for about $100 less or more 'cause an illegal copy of Windows is not a concern here =)
As for being scared of building it yourself, I order my pc just before xmas and got all the parts a couple of days after. It was the first pc I ever build myself. My brother was with me just to help and keep an eye on things. I was also scared of breaking stuff, but it really is easy! The hardest part for me was installing the cpu...and that was easy. It was just the fact that when you push down the small lever to install the cpu, you have to FORCE that motherfucker down! But all went well and the pc is still working fine!
Just ask a nerdy friend to help you.
It's almost the same, except the processor is a 2500k instead of a 2600k. The graphics card is a HD6870 though vs the HD6850 in the first one. So basically you trade a bit of CPU power vs GPU power. The main difference of 2500k vs 2600k is that the latter has hyperthreading which basically lets the CPU run double the amount of threads on the four cores. This is great for certain applications (such as movie compression, rendering and that kind of stuff) that can make use of 8 threads, but for games, which usually has very poor multi-threading capability you won't notice a difference. The HD6870 will be an improvement though. So solely for gaming this rig will have better performance. If you are into other stuff that you know uses many threads then the 2600k is probably the better choice though.
I looked around on other sites as well but it's hard to find pre-built stuff that has good value for money. Almost all manufacturers save in on the GPU and it costs a shitload extra if you want to upgrade it.. And still they label it "gamer"..
Anyway the newegg pack is pretty good except maybe that the PSU is from a generally unknown brand, but you should probably do ok with it. If you are considering building it yourself (or can find some other site that does assembly for you) then come again and we can help you put something together :).
Why are you asking though? I wouldn't recommend liquid cooling for your price point since a good air cooler usually can keep up with liquid but for a cheaper price.