I thought this would be an interesting place to post my...venting. This is going to be long so if you are not interested in me, art or an intertwined history of the two, leave now. I won't blame you. This is mostly for me. And I'll secretly blame you...
As many of you know I'm an "artist" in training. Although, these days I'm more comfortable with the word illustrator or draftsman(person who draws).
Back in highschool, I wasn't as knowledgeable or passionate about what direction I wanted to head in for art. All I knew is that I wanted to draw and paint so I ended up in a "Fine Arts" program(with a capital F).
In my first few years I encountered an extremely odd culture of individuals who had a very elitist view on what art was. The Fine art world of today!I didn't mind though because I was taking courses like Figure drawing and painting so I was focused on honing my craft. I got to ignore the culture, essentially.
But now, as a senior, I have to face it.
I'll get right to the point. In the aforementioned culture, there is a very clear line between what is art and what is not.
Anything related to the entertainment industry right now is not considered art. So the work of most illustrators is considered illustration, and not art. To say to some artists "oh this is just illustration, I'm not putting this in my gallery" is practically profanity and an ultimate insult.
There's this common idea that the stuff you see that gets attention from the art scene in magazines, galleries, e.t.c. is the modern art of our time. And whenever you mention "video game" you get laughed at. I think there's this quintessential image in my brain of a professor making fun of a previous student who refused to draw anything other than dragons and dudes with swords. It's as if, video games are for children. They are not actually important. The new animated movies are just movies. They don't matter in the art world. Man...They're so fucking snooty.
This is turning out to be much longer than I anticipated lol
Right now I'm procrastinating from writing this artist presentation thing where I give a talk on a contemporary artist. The goal is to find a modern artist who deals with important issues and is pushing the boundaries. "Deals with issues" is a very common term around there. The first reference to artists and issues will sound like "find an artist who is dealing with social or political issues in our time".
So essentially, those are the parameters of what gets into the fine art world right now. Stuff that "deals with social and or political issues". Oh, and lots of naked chicks shoving their vaginas in your face. That's fine art too apparently. Seriously, after Egon Schiele, it seems like everyone started painting hot pink muffs.
I'm here to tell you ITS ALL BULLSHIT!!Word? This stuff matters to a completely misguided small percent of the world that isn't being honest with itself. Word. Now, that's important to say. I'll touch on that later. First, I'm going to give you a very brief art history lesson.
The Grecian golden age of art: A bunch of people from a REALLY long time ago really MASTERED the human figure and created mostly these badass sculptures.
Then the Romans conquered them and art was dead for a long time.
Then the Gothic era of art came with Gothic architecture: This was really the new beginning of art.
Renaissance: DaVinci, Michelangelo, e.t.c.The new age of painting and sculpture had begun. And it was great. All of the work you would associate from this age was not displayed in a gallery. Rather, it was all commission work for churches.
Then, give or take about 500 years and you have contemporary art. Art for art's sake. This is an important distinction. For thousands of years, art was made out of it's convention to society. It served specific purposes. But by around the 1800's it changed.
Contemporary art, mid 1800's to today has been more conscious. Artists were actively exploring the meaning of ar To put it simply, pissing on a toilet became art. Literally. ....No seriously. I'm not kidding.
This lead to the idea that art has to really MEAN something in order to be art!
In result, artists are trying to "innovate" and "push social and political artistic boundaries" and "expand what art is" while still paying the bills and getting collectors to give them lots and lots of money.
This has led to a false sense of importance. They have this incorrect thinking that because they are TRYING to be important, they are. But the problem is, they aren't important at all. Not relatively speaking, of course. Ya people fill up galleries and sell paintings for big time money. But they're still relatively unknown. Artists today are trying WAY too hard to be important. I wonder how many people I've lost by this point...I'm really interested to see the response from the community. I'd imagine the only reason anyone would read this is because they know me.
So, what IS important in art right now? Well, what is captivating the entire world? Hhhmm.....There's this industry I know of....it has millions of followers around the world.
Video games + Movies +comics will be the most important part of visual art history for our time period. They won't acknowledge it right now, but once they gain some perspective it will be glaringly obvious that the place art has come to genuinely grow in our time period is in the entertainment industry. I could build a very lengthy and even more convincing thesis for this but I think you get the point.
So, it's just REALLY frustrating to have to essentially pretend that this shit is important that I'm studying in terms of "modern art". I've had this boiling under the surface for a really long time.
The good news is: You're part of the most important aspect of art for this era. And I bet you didn't even know you were all complete art snobs!
Aside from the commercial stuff, the only thing I consider to really be art is Graffiti and Street Art. that is another, truly global movement that has really shaped art on just about every front imaginable.
So that's the end of this unorganized, convoluted rant about how narrow in perspective people are perceiving art. Had to get it out.
OH! And for making it all the way to the end( or at least scrolling), I'll share some of my stuff.
I love to draw and paint shit that is awesome I.E. Badass characters, demons, and stretchy Jake. So screw you art world! You can follow my stuff on facebook if you want. <3
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"I want to say something but I'll keep it to myself I guess and leave this useless post behind to make you aware that there WAS something... "
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
As a fellow artist, i agree with you. i'm also a senior and after the past few years getting a good knowledge base on what is art and what it not art there is only one answer.
Art is anything that it man made that is intentionally created with the purpose of evoking an emotion.
The graffiti, street art, animated movies, video games, dare i say dubstep, are forms of art that are unique and definitive of modern culture.
That being said, the art world does not view my art form as art at all. I am a potter and have been making pots since my freshman year when i took my first ceramics course ever and have since then become addicted. I focus in functional pottery and have become completely enthralled by the connection that people develop with the objects that i create from essentially a lump of dirt.
There have been many people over the last few years who have purchased some of my pots, be it a mug, bowl, etc. Last year i was attending a sale and a lady came into my booth who i had seen before at a previous sale and remembered that she had purchased one of my mugs and a few little dessert plates. She looked around for a while and was picking up just about every mug that i had out and sometimes she would pick one of them up more than once and keep going on and on and on.
I asked if i could help her with anything and she said, you know i bought a mug from you a few months back and have been having my morning coffee out of it every day, and last week i broke it, and it just hasn't been the same since.
That moment was a major realization for me that strongly influenced my decision to stick with pottery as my primary art form. It is awesome that the smallest little thing, like a mug, can do something for someone such as make their morning coffee a bit better, and cause them to be engaged into my art and form a relationship with my art that is unheard of with other mediums.
TL;DR i agree with you
I don't know how you feel about it. But abstract expressionism makes me lolwtf RAGE. I hate it. Jackson Pollock paintings just make me sick. I know i don't understand them, but i really don't want to have to work as a viewer to get something out of a bunch of splatters on a canvas.
I focus in functional pottery and have become completely enthralled by the connection that people develop with the objects that i create from essentially a lump of dirt.
That's why they don't consider it art. Art lost functionality a long time ago. It used to serve a purpose. But for about 200 years, it has been all about art for art's sake. And to be honest it's only been about 140 because for probably the last 60 years I think art has served a very conventional purpose that people don't want to recognize right now.
I think technology has a lot to do with it. In the last 50-100 years, as a species our technology has only evolved faster and faster. And now, it's completely integrated with art. It's just going to take some time for people to realize that Art is incredibly functional now. Be it mostly for entertainment.
Btw, I really love your idea about the connection people have with objects. I could totally picture that lady you were describing.
While i mostly agree with you, this is not true. Romans were not as good as sculpture as Attic masters (in fact the best sculptors went to Rome to show and sell their work), but they were as bit as good as greek masters in architecture, and they were even better painters.
Certainly. I was condensing and butchering art history in order to keep the attention of the readers. It was mostly about the rant. The art history tid bit was to give a brief moment of perspective on the current situation art finds itself in.
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"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Jackson Pollock was garbage. But it IS art. And it IS important to art history. It was really a logically progression for art if you consider all of the factors. Probably the only bit of abstract expressionism that seeps into my consideration for art would be Norman Rockwell's painting:
Now THAT's gold lol. Humor and skill.
so uh....that image on the top. It's badass. That is all.
Thank you
If you're referring to my work. You could be referring to the statue.
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"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Certainly. I was condensing and butchering art history in order to keep the attention of the readers. It was mostly about the rant. The art history tid bit was to give a brief moment of perspective on the current situation art finds itself in.
Yes, contemporary art is bad. I've seen a lot of contemporary arts museum, and the beauty-art connection seems completely fucked up most of the times. Basically, now, the "official" art shows nothing else than the shock of the artist, most of the times.
This is true not only for figurative arts, but also for poetry (which i know better).
Just so there is no doubt, I was indeed referring to your work
You are too kind.
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I'm not in arts but rest assured Umpa me and everybody in my entourage whole heartedly agree with you. We laugh about it every now and then.
The sadness is I even understand it and you gave words to my thoughts exactly:
This stuff matters to a completely misguided small percent of the world that isn't being honest with itself.
This has led to a false sense of importance. They have this incorrect thinking that because they are TRYING to be important, they are.
The funny thing is... I don't think it is something reserved to Arts. For me its all of the same thing called "Trying to be different, above the masses" and achieving it only by puting etiquettes on each other individuals or work. For me it is the exact same phenomenon when someone critic other forms of entertainment (music, movie, games) by only justifying it being bad by not being the product of a so called "superior creator" or not respecting completely random standards.
Here are some very awesome examples from one of my favorite potters, Jack Troy.
These are all wood fired in an Anagama kiln. The pots are not glazed, all of the flashing and coloration comes from the firing process, they are fired from any range of cone 10 to 14 which is 2363 degrees F to 2450 degrees F.
I love them because you cannot manually produce the effects created by the wood firing process, its nature at it's best.
@ performance art.. yeah... wtf.
speaking of, here is someone i think you'll like /sarcasm. Her name is millie brown and she is a performance artist/ vomit painter.
I'm not in arts but rest assured Umpa me and everybody in my entourage whole heartedly agree with you. We laugh about it every now and then.
The sadness is I even understand it and you gave words to my thoughts exactly:
This stuff matters to a completely misguided small percent of the world that isn't being honest with itself.
This has led to a false sense of importance. They have this incorrect thinking that because they are TRYING to be important, they are.
The funny thing is... I don't think it is something reserved to Arts. For me its all of the same thing called "Trying to be different, above the masses" and achieving it only by puting etiquettes on each other individuals or work. For me it is the exact same phenomenon when someone critic other forms of entertainment (music, movie, games) by only justifying it being bad by not being the product of a so called "superior creator" or not respecting completely random standards.
Agreed. It's definitely a human psyche thing. I'm REALLY contemplating creating an entire presentation dedicated to this topic and presenting that instead of the drab format of some random contemporary artist.
@SCP- I wouldn't want to try and drink coffee out of those.
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You know what's odd, it's hard to read those. The color that developed on them almost looks like reflective light on a metal surface. That's what I thought it was at first. They're weirding out my mind man!
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I'm not in arts but rest assured Umpa me and everybody in my entourage whole heartedly agree with you. We laugh about it every now and then.
The sadness is I even understand it and you gave words to my thoughts exactly:
This stuff matters to a completely misguided small percent of the world that isn't being honest with itself.
This has led to a false sense of importance. They have this incorrect thinking that because they are TRYING to be important, they are.
The funny thing is... I don't think it is something reserved to Arts. For me its all of the same thing called "Trying to be different, above the masses" and achieving it only by puting etiquettes on each other individuals or work. For me it is the exact same phenomenon when someone critic other forms of entertainment (music, movie, games) by only justifying it being bad by not being the product of a so called "superior creator" or not respecting completely random standards.
Agreed. It's definitely a human psyche thing. I'm REALLY contemplating creating an entire presentation dedicated to this topic and presenting that instead of the drab format of some random contemporary artist.
@SCP- I wouldn't want to try and drink coffee out of those.
In fact I personally think there is merit / value about trying to evolve, to be better (while not bragging !!) than the others, different.
The issue though I feel is that in the case you are representing, they are NOT better, they just SAY they are and use bragging and disregard as a fake mask.
( As it might be cnfusing and Im in a hurry and dont want to spend 3hr really putting thoughts on paper: When I say being better it just means being better at what you chose to do, without restriction on the subject)
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In fact I personally think there is merit / value about trying to evolve, to be better (while not bragging !!) than the others, different.
The issue though I feel is that in the case you are representing, they are NOT better, they just SAY they are and use bragging and disregard as a fake mask.
Exactly. The way to be perceived as "different" today is to showcase a giant bloody vagina or have a projection on the wall of a video of a guy in tights moving his feet on a piece of tape on a cement floor as a "human metronome"(no joke I saw that, it was hysterical).
It's literally a parody of itself at this point.
You know what would be REAL edgy? To walk into a gallery in NEW YORK and see a bunch of World of Warcraft paintings. That would blow my mind. And it will never happen lol.
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There is this sculptor here who always includes a giant vagina or penis into every one of his pieces. I'm sick of seeing reproductive organs around the 3D studio.
After knowing this guy for a while.. they don't have any meaning. He just does it for the shock factor, which now it's not even shocking anymore, you more or less expect it.
Yeah, I would generally have to agree that a lot of modern ( contemporary) art can be pretty moot. I'm sure a hundred years from now it might be summed up as representative of the chaos of our times both socially and personally. I've heard this justification for Mondrian and Pollack, and, well, a lot of pseudoart. That rockwell piece is technically no better than the pollack it's criticizing but then again, still a different time. What's sad is that in our modern era a lot of what is called art depends more on who you know and what kind of bullshit you can spin. As for me, i doodle. could someone eventually come up with a like of BS about it, probably. Will I rise as a zombie to gnaw his brain? Yesh, that's the plan. And actually, I think Mondrian pretty awesome although his earlier tree studies are probably more appreciable than the later work he is known for.
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In fact I personally think there is merit / value about trying to evolve, to be better (while not bragging !!) than the others, different.
The issue though I feel is that in the case you are representing, they are NOT better, they just SAY they are and use bragging and disregard as a fake mask.
Exactly. The way to be perceived as "different" today is to showcase a giant bloody vagina or have a projection on the wall of a video of a guy in tights moving his feet on a piece of tape on a cement floor as a "human metronome"(no joke I saw that, it was hysterical).
It's literally a parody of itself at this point.
You know what would be REAL edgy? To walk into a gallery in NEW YORK and see a bunch of World of Warcraft paintings. That would blow my mind. And it will never happen lol.
On a side note, paintings of World of Warcraft would probably tell a lot more about the 21th century man than what you just described.
Well i dont really know you Umpa, and im not that much into art, especially since i cant draw or paint. But i read the whole thing and i completely agree with you, i hardly ever find anything i perceive as "modern art" that i enjoy, it often seems to me like they are simply trying to push some boundaries simply for the sake of doing so, as you stated. I really liked your artwork, especially the first two, amazing!
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This is mostly for me. And I'll secretly blame you...
As many of you know I'm an "artist" in training. Although, these days I'm more comfortable with the word illustrator or draftsman(person who draws).
Back in highschool, I wasn't as knowledgeable or passionate about what direction I wanted to head in for art. All I knew is that I wanted to draw and paint so I ended up in a "Fine Arts" program(with a capital F).
In my first few years I encountered an extremely odd culture of individuals who had a very elitist view on what art was. The Fine art world of today!I didn't mind though because I was taking courses like Figure drawing and painting so I was focused on honing my craft. I got to ignore the culture, essentially.
But now, as a senior, I have to face it.
I'll get right to the point. In the aforementioned culture, there is a very clear line between what is art and what is not.
Anything related to the entertainment industry right now is not considered art. So the work of most illustrators is considered illustration, and not art. To say to some artists "oh this is just illustration, I'm not putting this in my gallery" is practically profanity and an ultimate insult.
There's this common idea that the stuff you see that gets attention from the art scene in magazines, galleries, e.t.c. is the modern art of our time. And whenever you mention "video game" you get laughed at. I think there's this quintessential image in my brain of a professor making fun of a previous student who refused to draw anything other than dragons and dudes with swords. It's as if, video games are for children. They are not actually important. The new animated movies are just movies. They don't matter in the art world. Man...They're so fucking snooty.
This is turning out to be much longer than I anticipated lol
Right now I'm procrastinating from writing this artist presentation thing where I give a talk on a contemporary artist. The goal is to find a modern artist who deals with important issues and is pushing the boundaries. "Deals with issues" is a very common term around there. The first reference to artists and issues will sound like "find an artist who is dealing with social or political issues in our time".
So essentially, those are the parameters of what gets into the fine art world right now. Stuff that "deals with social and or political issues". Oh, and lots of naked chicks shoving their vaginas in your face. That's fine art too apparently.
Seriously, after Egon Schiele, it seems like everyone started painting hot pink muffs.
I'm here to tell you ITS ALL BULLSHIT!!Word? This stuff matters to a completely misguided small percent of the world that isn't being honest with itself. Word. Now, that's important to say. I'll touch on that later. First, I'm going to give you a very brief art history lesson.
The Grecian golden age of art: A bunch of people from a REALLY long time ago really MASTERED the human figure and created mostly these badass sculptures.
Then the Romans conquered them and art was dead for a long time.
Then the Gothic era of art came with Gothic architecture: This was really the new beginning of art.
Renaissance: DaVinci, Michelangelo, e.t.c.The new age of painting and sculpture had begun. And it was great. All of the work you would associate from this age was not displayed in a gallery. Rather, it was all commission work for churches.
Then, give or take about 500 years and you have contemporary art. Art for art's sake. This is an important distinction. For thousands of years, art was made out of it's convention to society. It served specific purposes. But by around the 1800's it changed.
Contemporary art, mid 1800's to today has been more conscious. Artists were actively exploring the meaning of ar
To put it simply, pissing on a toilet became art. Literally.
....No seriously.
I'm not kidding.
This lead to the idea that art has to really MEAN something in order to be art!
In result, artists are trying to "innovate" and "push social and political artistic boundaries" and "expand what art is" while still paying the bills and getting collectors to give them lots and lots of money.
This has led to a false sense of importance. They have this incorrect thinking that because they are TRYING to be important, they are. But the problem is, they aren't important at all. Not relatively speaking, of course. Ya people fill up galleries and sell paintings for big time money. But they're still relatively unknown. Artists today are trying WAY too hard to be important.
I wonder how many people I've lost by this point...I'm really interested to see the response from the community. I'd imagine the only reason anyone would read this is because they know me.
So, what IS important in art right now? Well, what is captivating the entire world? Hhhmm.....There's this industry I know of....it has millions of followers around the world.
Video games + Movies +comics will be the most important part of visual art history for our time period. They won't acknowledge it right now, but once they gain some perspective it will be glaringly obvious that the place art has come to genuinely grow in our time period is in the entertainment industry. I could build a very lengthy and even more convincing thesis for this but I think you get the point.
So, it's just REALLY frustrating to have to essentially pretend that this shit is important that I'm studying in terms of "modern art". I've had this boiling under the surface for a really long time.
The good news is: You're part of the most important aspect of art for this era. And I bet you didn't even know you were all complete art snobs!
Aside from the commercial stuff, the only thing I consider to really be art is Graffiti and Street Art. that is another, truly global movement that has really shaped art on just about every front imaginable.
So that's the end of this unorganized, convoluted rant about how narrow in perspective people are perceiving art. Had to get it out.
OH! And for making it all the way to the end( or at least scrolling), I'll share some of my stuff.
I love to draw and paint shit that is awesome I.E. Badass characters, demons, and stretchy Jake. So screw you art world! You can follow my stuff on facebook if you want. <3
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stuart-Devivas-Art/283398715046565?sk
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Art is anything that it man made that is intentionally created with the purpose of evoking an emotion.
The graffiti, street art, animated movies, video games, dare i say dubstep, are forms of art that are unique and definitive of modern culture.
That being said, the art world does not view my art form as art at all. I am a potter and have been making pots since my freshman year when i took my first ceramics course ever and have since then become addicted. I focus in functional pottery and have become completely enthralled by the connection that people develop with the objects that i create from essentially a lump of dirt.
There have been many people over the last few years who have purchased some of my pots, be it a mug, bowl, etc. Last year i was attending a sale and a lady came into my booth who i had seen before at a previous sale and remembered that she had purchased one of my mugs and a few little dessert plates. She looked around for a while and was picking up just about every mug that i had out and sometimes she would pick one of them up more than once and keep going on and on and on.
I asked if i could help her with anything and she said, you know i bought a mug from you a few months back and have been having my morning coffee out of it every day, and last week i broke it, and it just hasn't been the same since.
That moment was a major realization for me that strongly influenced my decision to stick with pottery as my primary art form. It is awesome that the smallest little thing, like a mug, can do something for someone such as make their morning coffee a bit better, and cause them to be engaged into my art and form a relationship with my art that is unheard of with other mediums.
TL;DR i agree with you
I don't know how you feel about it. But abstract expressionism makes me lolwtf RAGE. I hate it. Jackson Pollock paintings just make me sick. I know i don't understand them, but i really don't want to have to work as a viewer to get something out of a bunch of splatters on a canvas.
And "piss christ" yeah... thats art.. wtf world.
Definitely man! Do what you love!
That's why they don't consider it art. Art lost functionality a long time ago. It used to serve a purpose. But for about 200 years, it has been all about art for art's sake. And to be honest it's only been about 140 because for probably the last 60 years I think art has served a very conventional purpose that people don't want to recognize right now.
I think technology has a lot to do with it. In the last 50-100 years, as a species our technology has only evolved faster and faster. And now, it's completely integrated with art. It's just going to take some time for people to realize that Art is incredibly functional now. Be it mostly for entertainment.
Btw, I really love your idea about the connection people have with objects. I could totally picture that lady you were describing.
Certainly. I was condensing and butchering art history in order to keep the attention of the readers. It was mostly about the rant. The art history tid bit was to give a brief moment of perspective on the current situation art finds itself in.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Now THAT's gold lol. Humor and skill.
Thank you
If you're referring to my work. You could be referring to the statue.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Just so there is no doubt, I was indeed referring to your work
Performance art.....waaahhhh? lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2IF4VHSqKk&feature=related
You are too kind.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
The sadness is I even understand it and you gave words to my thoughts exactly:
The funny thing is... I don't think it is something reserved to Arts. For me its all of the same thing called "Trying to be different, above the masses" and achieving it only by puting etiquettes on each other individuals or work. For me it is the exact same phenomenon when someone critic other forms of entertainment (music, movie, games) by only justifying it being bad by not being the product of a so called "superior creator" or not respecting completely random standards.
These are all wood fired in an Anagama kiln. The pots are not glazed, all of the flashing and coloration comes from the firing process, they are fired from any range of cone 10 to 14 which is 2363 degrees F to 2450 degrees F.
I love them because you cannot manually produce the effects created by the wood firing process, its nature at it's best.
@ performance art.. yeah... wtf.
speaking of, here is someone i think you'll like /sarcasm. Her name is millie brown and she is a performance artist/ vomit painter.
i just thought about this. millie brown = wretched mother lol
Agreed. It's definitely a human psyche thing. I'm REALLY contemplating creating an entire presentation dedicated to this topic and presenting that instead of the drab format of some random contemporary artist.
@SCP- I wouldn't want to try and drink coffee out of those.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
I like them for the surfaces and forms not the functionality, although i have a few of his cups and they are fantastic to drink out of.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
In fact I personally think there is merit / value about trying to evolve, to be better (while not bragging !!) than the others, different.
The issue though I feel is that in the case you are representing, they are NOT better, they just SAY they are and use bragging and disregard as a fake mask.
( As it might be cnfusing and Im in a hurry and dont want to spend 3hr really putting thoughts on paper: When I say being better it just means being better at what you chose to do, without restriction on the subject)
Exactly. The way to be perceived as "different" today is to showcase a giant bloody vagina or have a projection on the wall of a video of a guy in tights moving his feet on a piece of tape on a cement floor as a "human metronome"(no joke I saw that, it was hysterical).
It's literally a parody of itself at this point.
You know what would be REAL edgy? To walk into a gallery in NEW YORK and see a bunch of World of Warcraft paintings. That would blow my mind. And it will never happen lol.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
After knowing this guy for a while.. they don't have any meaning. He just does it for the shock factor, which now it's not even shocking anymore, you more or less expect it.
sorry...shameless plug, cant help it
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Edit, rofl vaginas in art. the only things that reminds me are O'keefe's flowers and the various bosses of Borderlands. laff
On a side note, paintings of World of Warcraft would probably tell a lot more about the 21th century man than what you just described.