New Years is not on December 21, buddy. Also, it's pretty clear you don't know that much about Mayan culture either, or you'd know it is not an ending to the Mayan Calendar, nor is it anything about "not making their calendar long enough".
That's just silly. Who's to say how long a calendar should be? You? Me? No.
Why is a philosopher quoting my shit? and yes it does have alot to do with their calendar, read a book and get off wiki for a bit.
...buddy
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Lol. I know it has to do with their calendar. Go back and read some of my previous posts before trying to make me seem like an idiot. I said that it has nothing to do with their calendar ending or being too short. The Mayan Calendar doesn't end in 2012, it just goes through a transition.
I've done my research on this matter already - and nowhere have I cited wikipedia, so I have no idea where you're getting that from.
Hey, as long as I get to play D3 for a couple years I could care less what happens personally.
The Mayans were clearly a badass civilization which lasted 3,500~ years, so they have slight credibility by my standards. Especially considering they "predicted" other events that have happened in the past.
I don't remember the exact historical predictions that happened, but the source I read it from seemed fairly credible.
I hope that something happens ... I'll be very disappointed if not.
Also, I know they didn't predict the end of the world; but didn't they predict a big change or something like that?
And, what about the galactic alignment or whatever that's set to happen on that date. I don't actually believe that anything will happen, but there's some amazing coincidences.
The galactic alignment is actually not at all a galactica alignment. It's actually something more like the Sun and Mercury and the Earth will line up or something like that. Nothing really all that big. It happens every X number of years.
They didn't really predict anything technically. It's just that the Mayan Calendar has these "stops" in that represent changes between different cycles. So yes, there is supposed to be a "change" but it's just representative of a change in eras. Whether it will manifest itself in some noticeable way or not is unknown (and very doubtful).
If anything, having a date where the world is to end makes a compelling argument to do something you normally wouldn't: Smoke crack, heroine, steal a car, eat a steak blue, have an orgy. Wait a second...
That's the problem I have with all these end-of-the-world predictions... people do stupid things.
That's the problem I have with all these end-of-the-world predictions... people do stupid things.
Ehm, don't people do stupid things anyways?
Also, if they didn't predict the end of the world, what did they actually do to create that missconception?
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
I wouldn't have considered that offtopic. You're talking about what people do when they think its the end of the world, and the best way to talk about things is to use contrasts and comparisons. It'd only be offtopic if it went on and on about people doing stupid things without relating it back to a possible world's end. The key word that connects your statement back to the topic is 'anyways' (a comparative word).
The whole misconception thing... well, people misconcept everything, usually in a way that is more dramatic, because drama is fun? People fear what they don't understand, and not many people understand the Mayans.
Though someone else could probably give a better description, I was awfully vague.
I was trying to weigh up whether a predicted 'end of the world' is good for our morality, but I can't decide. Equinox said it leads people to do stupid things, but then Chaos points that people do stupid things anyway. So that kind of cancels it out as being negative, though you could argue that it still leads people to do even more stupid things. And I don't know how many people will take the opportunity to tell others that they love them (even as friends). Things like that should be said more often and not reserved for the end of the world.
I wouldn't have considered that offtopic. You're talking about what people do when they think its the end of the world, and the best way to talk about things is to use contrasts and comparisons. It'd only be offtopic if it went on and on about people doing stupid things without relating it back to a possible world's end. The key word that connects your statement back to the topic is 'anyways' (a comparative word).
The whole misconception thing... well, people misconcept everything, usually in a way that is more dramatic, because drama is fun? People fear what they don't understand, and not many people understand the Mayans.
Ahhkay, I'll keep that in mind.
That doesn't really help with my question much. What caused them to missconcept? I heard something about their calendar ending at 2012. Calendar? Huh? For what?
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
We need something to fear. Without it, there's nothing to keep the people in check. Imagine most religions without the fear of some sort of "hell" or hellish place where non-conformers go. Without that, very few people would pay religion any attention.
Fear of apocalypse is just a way to make people behave differently.
I wish people would be a bit more humble when making assumptions like this. You do not KNOW that this is why we have doomsday prophecies. This just happens to be the most logic reasoning for them. But there is a big difference between knowing why something is and thinking why it is based on logical reasoning. My theory of knowledge teacher was saying the same stuff as if he know for 100% and I pointed out that he did not actually KNOW, that it was simply logical thought process. And he agreed that I was correct that e could not know that for sure.
I have no problem with that idea but when people try to present it as fact it bothers me a bit.
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-Winged
That calendar is made for counting time. It's not a countdown.
The misconception is because of the Nostradamus prophecies about 2012-2013.
I just read about it (some people's opinions) and found out that those prophecies talk about a world conflict which will either end with the doom of our world or with everlasting peace ??? Really precise.
Oh, and reading up on the same subject like 6 months ago I found out some people (even educated, non-psychopaths) believe that the Third Reich was envisioned by Hitler and his advisors about preparing Earth for a meeting and/or confrontation with an unknown entity-planet (called today Nibiru) which hosts alien gods or something in the 2012 ROFL.
Read up on Nibiru...
I'll use this momet to raise the tension http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y
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That calendar is made for counting time. It's not a countdown.
The misconception is because of the Nostradamus prophecies about 2012-2013. Y
No, it's not. The Maya hype was separate from Nostradamusdumusstupidretardus for a long time until they unveiled the stuff that did link the two. The Mayan's calender end being construed to be a doomsday prophecy has been arund for a while.
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-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
I stopped watching that video when it said that NASA launched something a year after they had suspicions. I mean, c'mon, even if the whole thing wasn't rediculous already, it takes years to prepare a space-vessel of whatever kind before it can leave earth.
Anyway - so I did read some things about the Mayan calendar and all I could find was that it's just a cycle, like we count a year or a decade, but much larger, that has started since the Mayans started counting the days, and will renew itself on 11:11 21 December 2012. So flipping what? It's not a doomsday propecy, heck it's not even a new era. It's just a renewal of their counting, actually it's the exact same thing as Y2K, except this time no computers are using it to count with so they can't get fucked up by it.
Also, there's supposed to be this change in the sun's magnetic poles that happens every 12 years or so that is approaching, but scientists don't even know when that happens. All they know is the sun is probably going to be a little more active than usual for about 3-4 years in the near future. Satellites may have some problems with that, but other than maybe an increased chance of getting skin cancer we won't notice a thing.
Besides, the earths magnetic poles reverse every thousand or so years also, now that is alot more serious.
This whole thing is completely rediculous lol.
Did you research what has happened in the past when there was a new cycle?
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-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Okay, this thread is not about Nibiru. Please stay on topic everyone.
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Ehm, don't people do stupid things anyways?
Also, if they didn't predict the end of the world, what did they actually do to create that missconception?
The Mayans themselves did nothing to create this weird misconception. It's simply the fact that it's human nature to drop facts along the way when a story is being passed along. (Ever played the game Telephone?)
It's like one kid whispered "The Mayan Calendar is beginning a new cycle in 2012" and it got passed around and came back as "The Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012". Then it spread all over the world (mainly through the internet) and now everyone's worked up about it.
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I wish people would be a bit more humble when making assumptions like this. You do not KNOW that this is why we have doomsday prophecies. This just happens to be the most logic reasoning for them. But there is a big difference between knowing why something is and thinking why it is based on logical reasoning. My theory of knowledge teacher was saying the same stuff as if he know for 100% and I pointed out that he did not actually KNOW, that it was simply logical thought process. And he agreed that I was correct that e could not know that for sure.
I have no problem with that idea but when people try to present it as fact it bothers me a bit.
I wasn't trying to present it as fact but, rather, as opinion. I don't really think it's necessary to put "In my opinion" next to everything all the time. Some things are just too obviously opinion.
We don't KNOW anything for sure, so what's the point of making the distinction between something we KNOW (which is nothing) and something we're very sure about? Honestly, we're just getting into semantics now.
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Hopefully by then I'll have started my career and will be at the gym!
However, if it DOES end up being true, you know what they say: ignorance is bliss.
Why is a philosopher quoting my shit? and yes it does have alot to do with their calendar, read a book and get off wiki for a bit.
...buddy
I've done my research on this matter already - and nowhere have I cited wikipedia, so I have no idea where you're getting that from.
The Mayans were clearly a badass civilization which lasted 3,500~ years, so they have slight credibility by my standards. Especially considering they "predicted" other events that have happened in the past.
I don't remember the exact historical predictions that happened, but the source I read it from seemed fairly credible.
Could be a bunch of bs though.
Also, I know they didn't predict the end of the world; but didn't they predict a big change or something like that?
And, what about the galactic alignment or whatever that's set to happen on that date. I don't actually believe that anything will happen, but there's some amazing coincidences.
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They didn't really predict anything technically. It's just that the Mayan Calendar has these "stops" in that represent changes between different cycles. So yes, there is supposed to be a "change" but it's just representative of a change in eras. Whether it will manifest itself in some noticeable way or not is unknown (and very doubtful).
Trying to change popular misconceptions is really hard work.
Who's up for an annual End-Of-The-World party?
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Also, if they didn't predict the end of the world, what did they actually do to create that missconception?
(Deleted my last post because that alone probably would of been marked as off-topic so I wanted to delete it before a mod could so I wouldn't get in trouble :))
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
The whole misconception thing... well, people misconcept everything, usually in a way that is more dramatic, because drama is fun? People fear what they don't understand, and not many people understand the Mayans.
Though someone else could probably give a better description, I was awfully vague.
I was trying to weigh up whether a predicted 'end of the world' is good for our morality, but I can't decide. Equinox said it leads people to do stupid things, but then Chaos points that people do stupid things anyway. So that kind of cancels it out as being negative, though you could argue that it still leads people to do even more stupid things. And I don't know how many people will take the opportunity to tell others that they love them (even as friends). Things like that should be said more often and not reserved for the end of the world.
Why am I talking like this is some sort of essay?
That doesn't really help with my question much. What caused them to missconcept? I heard something about their calendar ending at 2012. Calendar? Huh? For what?
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
I was only kidding though.
I wish people would be a bit more humble when making assumptions like this. You do not KNOW that this is why we have doomsday prophecies. This just happens to be the most logic reasoning for them. But there is a big difference between knowing why something is and thinking why it is based on logical reasoning. My theory of knowledge teacher was saying the same stuff as if he know for 100% and I pointed out that he did not actually KNOW, that it was simply logical thought process. And he agreed that I was correct that e could not know that for sure.
I have no problem with that idea but when people try to present it as fact it bothers me a bit.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
The misconception is because of the Nostradamus prophecies about 2012-2013.
I just read about it (some people's opinions) and found out that those prophecies talk about a world conflict which will either end with the doom of our world or with everlasting peace ??? Really precise.
Oh, and reading up on the same subject like 6 months ago I found out some people (even educated, non-psychopaths) believe that the Third Reich was envisioned by Hitler and his advisors about preparing Earth for a meeting and/or confrontation with an unknown entity-planet (called today Nibiru) which hosts alien gods or something in the 2012 ROFL.
Read up on Nibiru...
I'll use this momet to raise the tension http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y
No, it's not. The Maya hype was separate from Nostradamusdumusstupidretardus for a long time until they unveiled the stuff that did link the two. The Mayan's calender end being construed to be a doomsday prophecy has been arund for a while.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Did you research what has happened in the past when there was a new cycle?
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
The Mayans themselves did nothing to create this weird misconception. It's simply the fact that it's human nature to drop facts along the way when a story is being passed along. (Ever played the game Telephone?)
It's like one kid whispered "The Mayan Calendar is beginning a new cycle in 2012" and it got passed around and came back as "The Mayans predicted the end of the world in 2012". Then it spread all over the world (mainly through the internet) and now everyone's worked up about it.
I wasn't trying to present it as fact but, rather, as opinion. I don't really think it's necessary to put "In my opinion" next to everything all the time. Some things are just too obviously opinion.
We don't KNOW anything for sure, so what's the point of making the distinction between something we KNOW (which is nothing) and something we're very sure about? Honestly, we're just getting into semantics now.