PS3 or w/e can have mouse/keyboard is not a valid point!
Game developers look to make the game around the primary controller. Its as much as you won't see console games (genre: fighting, racing, sports) being developed for PC although PC can handle any controller.
Before you know it Blizzard will start making Starcraft and Diablo games around the Console control scheme and you'll see dumbed down version with no complexity.
I've already made peace with PC exclusive developers going multiplatform or even dropping the PC altogether. But if Blizzard is going to make RTS/RPG games from the big 3 for Consoles, I won't buy their games anymore (as if someone gives a damn though).
RTS on Console is Ridiculous! Isometric RPG is also very bad.
you cant name a single blizzard game even upcoming ones we dont know the system reqs for that needs the best computer there is...lol u barely need a video card to run most blizz games atm
I knew someone would get me there but....what I meant was getting the best experience from the game. People who can't get the required hardware or are just to lazy to get the extra parts will be able to enjoy the game on a standardised version that looks a bit better than what they could have had on their pc.
I guess people forgot that Diablo 1 was ported to Playstation 1. It played just fine. Diablo to consoles is not a stretch by any means.
RTS like Warcraft or Starcraft however, is another matter entirely. RTS games do not have a positive history on consoles, most notably due to the control scheme and interface.
I don't see why the PC version would have to be dumbed down, though. They could just as easily make it great. It depends on how badly they want to captivate console and PC audiences, I guess.
It is always a possibility.
Well... A console is usually more affordable than a good gaming PC
Diablo 3 does not require a good gaming PC. The Graphical settings will most likely be able to be changed via options, like most other games.
Most people with PC's have, well, "crappy" ones that they just use for internet browsing, music, videos, IMing, and so on.
Source? Speaking from experience, an average $300-500 computer can be very powerful indeed, orders of magnitude times the necessary amount to run computer games with decent settings.
Whereas anyone who has a console would be able to play it, not everyone with a PC can play it
Even though many PCs, which can perform many more tasks than a console, and are much more general (also, portable in the case of laptops), cost less than $300 (PS3).
because most PC's are general-purpose ones and most people do not have a more recent PC, especially because of the downturn in the economy.
Source?
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Diablo 3 does not require a good gaming PC. The Graphical settings will most likely be able to be changed via options, like most other games.
Source? Speaking from experience, an average $300-500 computer can be very powerful indeed, orders of magnitude times the necessary amount to run computer games with decent settings.
Even though many PCs, which can perform many more tasks than a console, and are much more general (also, portable in the case of laptops), cost less than $300 (PS3).
Source?
Holy shit man, where do you live. I'm moving there NOW.
I've never heard of a (Good, Decent, Usable) PC or Laptop for under 600.
We pay more than that for a good monitor in most civilized parts of the world.
Ok, so let's say your right. D3 doesn't require high end PC's to play. Seems like a good argument until you actually compare what your getting for your money.
300$ on Console....Can play D3 with amazing graphic and speed.
500$ on a shitty PC, Can play D3 with shittier graphics and half ass speed.
So it leaves you with one real argument. The fact that PC's have more capabilities than consoles makes them better. They aren't just gaming engines but all in one tools. That's true.
I'm a PC gamer. Always been and always will be. So I'm not trying to bring down the PC. But I'm saying that it's a valid idea to want to port out simple hack and slash games to consoles in order to widen the range of players. It can't be at all that different from how God of War plays. (On a fighting point of view)
So to conclude, I would believe that Blizzard are making a good choice. Just as long as they don't forget us PC gamers I wouldn't mind seeing more people (console gamers) learn what a real ARPG is.
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----------Brought to you by Diablofans.com Forums -------- Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!
Ight the 360 can also hook up a keyboard and mouse
Sooo its really about which one has more cash
I have both but no live At the moment
I like the Xbox more but I like to have a ps3 as a back up
So either or doesn't matter im getting it for the PC
(Everything s hooked up to the same HD monitor anyways)
Holy shit man, where do you live. I'm moving there NOW.
I've never heard of a (Good, Decent, Usable) PC or Laptop for under 600.
We pay more than that for a good monitor in most civilized parts of the world.
Ok, so let's say your right. D3 doesn't require high end PC's to play. Seems like a good argument until you actually compare what your getting for your money.
300$ on Console....Can play D3 with amazing graphic and speed.
500$ on a shitty PC, Can play D3 with shittier graphics and half ass speed.
So it leaves you with one real argument. The fact that PC's have more capabilities than consoles makes them better. They aren't just gaming engines but all in one tools. That's true.
Ok, so i guess in China PC cost as much as you say. Can't argue. But here in the US you can have a PC for 300$ that is better than a PS3 (and the emphasis is on better - about the same graphic power oh and you can do some other things beside gaming and watching movies). For 500$ a PC would own a PS3 from all sides. Please don't ask me to prove it to you. I'm tired - every time there is a Console v PC discussion - of showing, people in different forums, how you can assemble a good PC for 400$. (and yeah, some people can't assemble themselves but it still cheap to buy good gaming grade PC from retailers).
About 5 years ago, a good gaming PC would have cost at least 1200$, now its different (once again, at least in the states). For a powerful GPU to run everything at Max, once you had to shell out 500$ for now you can have for 100$. All other component prices subsided too.
Now that you know, you can go ahead and move to the US
People are arguing that on a console, it would be difficult to play an RTS with a controller. Well, the same thing goes for an FPS; a mouse gives you much more control. So why not an RTS?
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They would ban it from Wii because they banned Manhunt 2 which had the same principals so all you Wii fans who want a D3 on it. sorry wont happen. Xbox and PS to me dont hve enough buttons but it could happen who knows. Id personally play it on Ps3 just cause on XBL theres a lot of little kids who get pissed cause they asked to solo diablo and you helped when they were about to die or something. I just hate it when whiney kids get on. But on Ps3 when i play CoD4 i bareley see that which im very surprised about but still i feel people on PS3 are generally more mature.
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and man i wouldnt mind them making console games but they better keep making the games for computer too cuz im sticking with comps i play other games for console like halo for my 360 or call of duty or racing games and so on...etc
I would like to make a preliminary apology for making such a long argument and post on this thread but this conflict is the most heated debate in which my associate and I are having atm.
My argument which contains both relevant POV's from both sides: You have to look at this "possible shift" from pc gaming to consoles, at an economic standpoint. I am pretty sure I'm not alone when I say that I defiantly do not want to see a complete monopoly of the gaming market. One might say a BLIZZARD, SONY, MICROSOFT, NINTENDO (MICROBLIZZONYTENDO) would turn this already cutthroat competitive market into a pile of mushy goop,though I firmly believe that BLIZZARD's WoW, StarCraft, and key financial advisors are going stay a safe static investment for years to come.(Honestly, they are not going to decide on anything detrimental towards the enterprise in which they have established) Therefore this bridging of the diablo series between mulitple systems might be a concrete idea. (Also keep in mind while there are still a alot of customers for the diablo series, their decisions on this diablo console situation will most likely not have an effect on their other games) If the decision comes to the addition of a console market for BLIZZARD I think its O.K. to assume that the constant influx of content and extensive lore from WoW and StarCraft's booming sales in eastern portions of the world is an almost indestructible backbone that easily glorifies this company. Not to mention amazing staff that BLIZZARD has acquired over the years in order to rectify such amazing titles. ( And if you truly believe they couldn't possibly generate even more prominent titles you have underestimated there unequivocal ingenuity.) If BLIZZARD were to some how come up and me and ask my opinion on whether or not to expand to consoles and why.
My reply would be along the lines of: I believe you would be making a risky decision economically, but what economist out there has truly not taken any risks. And because you are a market leader you truly have the power to make such risks with out terrible repercussions. Just make sure you keep the support of the bulk amount of your associates.
BEST COURSE OF ACTION: Focus on your computer based gamers first which are your leading and most faithful associates. Make sure diablo 3 meets/exceeds all of the necessary parameters which are necessary for the best possible gaming experience in this market. On day of release make a press conference stating that there will be attempts made at producing a console based diablo 3. From there what happens, happpens. Though the fact of reaching a diplomatic situation with SONY, MICROSOFT, and NINTENDO is no easy feat (dont forget about battle.net). If one thing leads to another maybe a release of a diablo 3 is possible and if this is achieved, move on towards opening a port.( Which is a very tricky subject b/ you do not want to disappoint your prior computer gamers or your new up and coming customers.) If we have learned anything at all from video game market history, its' that you want to make a near perfect first impression in the primitave stages.
PRO'S AND CON'S OF OUTCOME: CON'S: Diablo sales might go down do to abridged computer experience for the sake of development on consoles. (Controls, Graphics, Expansiveness, Sound, UI) Relations with console based companies which could effect the long term production of a similar product in the future. Product Upkeep for a period of time until the system is reliable. PRO'S: Expansion of the product/brand acknowledgement. Increased development/recognition of computer to console UI which can most definitley work in perfect equilibrium. Establishment of common grounds in which a port from computer to console can be established in future projects. The creation of a very profitable relationship with console based companies. Increased profit in terms of expansions with consoles. ( Im aware of the xbox live Microsoft Points System which could be utilized to create a substantial flow of revenue in terms of game add ons)
Terms that I feel must be addressed: There are alot of threats about how customers would leave if diablo was ported to consoles. Now I believe this might be true for very few, but in terms of loyal associates that BLIZZARD has obtained over the years, if they are truly passionate about the diablo series and the lore contains, I postulate that they will be happy customers even if there is a port created. If the port turns out to be horrible I would only imagine it being removed and nothing furthur than that. (Seriously people, has BLIZZARD implemented anything without an extensive amount of thought/testing) Not to mention the Cataclysm expansion for WoW which will be a great fall back if all does end in shambles.
I also feel it is necessary to credit SETH with a truly honest and his neutral opinion on this subject! I would truly like to see him (or you for that matter, because you are probably reading this) post more about this subject.
Keep in mind that I would truly love for everyone to come out of this situation truly happy with not only the end result of a great diablo but BLIZZARD making an economicly sound and astute conclusion in the end.
Side Note: I am hoping I will receive feedback on my post from everyone in the form of posts and mail. I truly would love to discuss this topic.:thumbsup: OH and I will be editing these positions if I feel the need.
The less colorful version can be found below! =D
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"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother" St. Crispen's Day Speech William Shakespeare, 1599
People are arguing that on a console, it would be difficult to play an RTS with a controller. Well, the same thing goes for an FPS; a mouse gives you much more control. So why not an RTS?
To play FPS with controller is bad enough, but its somewhat (on a super very low level) playable, especially when they put auto/help aiming, dunno, never played for more than 5 minutes lol.
But to play RTS with controller is absolutely impossible. I never did play RTS with controller, but i saw once a gameplay video of C&C on Xbox and well... think about it, how fast can you move the map without a mouse? how fast you can choose different unit? RTS on console is BS!
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lol I thought that XZ3ROorDieX post is spam bot, i seriously just skipped it
Holy shit man, where do you live. I'm moving there NOW.
I've never heard of a (Good, Decent, Usable) PC or Laptop for under 600.
We pay more than that for a good monitor in most civilized parts of the world.
You can build a PC that can run Crysis (used as a high end benchmark most of the time) at 40 FPS. Here is the link Build A kick-ass $500 gaming PC . If you build it yourself a PC can be had pretty cheap. Plus since this article is a little old prices have probably gone down even more.
I would like to make a preliminary apology for making such a long argument and post on this thread but this conflict is the most heated debate in which my associate and I are having atm.
My argument which contains both relevant POV's from both sides: You have to look at this "possible shift" from pc gaming to consoles, at an economic standpoint. I am pretty sure I'm not alone when I say that I defiantly do not want to see a complete monopoly of the gaming market. One might say a BLIZZARD, SONY, MICROSOFT, NINTENDO (MICROBLIZZONYTENDO) would turn this already cutthroat competitive market into a pile of mushy goop,though I firmly believe that BLIZZARD's WoW, StarCraft, and key financial advisors are going stay a safe static investment for years to come.(Honestly, they are not going to decide on anything detrimental towards the enterprise in which they have established) Therefore this bridging of the diablo series between mulitple systems might be a concrete idea. (Also keep in mind while there are still a alot of customers for the diablo series, their decisions on this diablo console situation will most likely not have an effect on their other games) If the decision comes to the addition of a console market for BLIZZARD I think its O.K. to assume that the constant influx of content and extensive lore from WoW and StarCraft's booming sales in eastern portions of the world is an almost indestructible backbone that easily glorifies this company. Not to mention amazing staff that BLIZZARD has acquired over the years in order to rectify such amazing titles. ( And if you truly believe they couldn't possibly generate even more prominent titles you have underestimated there unequivocal ingenuity.) If BLIZZARD were to some how come up and me and ask my opinion on whether or not to expand to consoles and why.
My reply would be along the lines of: I believe you would be making a risky decision economically, but what economist out there has truly not taken any risks. And because you are a market leader you truly have the power to make such risks with out terrible repercussions. Just make sure you keep the support of the bulk amount of your associates.
BEST COURSE OF ACTION: Focus on your computer based gamers first which are your leading and most faithful associates. Make sure diablo 3 meets/exceeds all of the necessary parameters which are necessary for the best possible gaming experience in this market. On day of release make a press conference stating that there will be attempts made at producing a console based diablo 3. From there what happens, happpens. Though the fact of reaching a diplomatic situation with SONY, MICROSOFT, and NINTENDO is no easy feat (dont forget about battle.net). If one thing leads to another maybe a release of a diablo 3 is possible and if this is achieved, move on towards opening a port.( Which is a very tricky subject b/ you do not want to disappoint your prior computer gamers or your new up and coming customers.) If we have learned anything at all from video game market history, its' that you want to make a near perfect first impression in the primitave stages.
PRO'S AND CON'S OF OUTCOME: CON'S: Diablo sales might go down do to abridged computer experience for the sake of development on consoles. (Controls, Graphics, Expansiveness, Sound, UI) Relations with console based companies which could effect the long term production of a similar product in the future. Product Upkeep for a period of time until the system is reliable. PRO'S: Expansion of the product/brand acknowledgement. Increased development/recognition of computer to console UI which can most definitley work in perfect equilibrium. Establishment of common grounds in which a port from computer to console can be established in future projects. The creation of a very profitable relationship with console based companies. Increased profit in terms of expansions with consoles. ( Im aware of the xbox live Microsoft Points System which could be utilized to create a substantial flow of revenue in terms of game add ons)
Terms that I feel must be addressed: There are alot of threats about how customers would leave if diablo was ported to consoles. Now I believe this might be true for very few, but in terms of loyal associates that BLIZZARD has obtained over the years, if they are truly passionate about the diablo series and the lore contains, I postulate that they will be happy customers even if there is a port created. If the port turns out to be horrible I would only imagine it being removed and nothing furthur than that. (Seriously people, has BLIZZARD implemented anything without an extensive amount of thought/testing) Not to mention the Cataclysm expansion for WoW which will be a great fall back if all does end in shambles.
I also feel it is necessary to credit SETH with his truly honest and neutral opinion on this subject! I would truly like to see him (or you for that matter, because you are probably reading this) post more about this subject.
Keep in mind that I would truly love for everyone to come out of this situation truly happy with not only the end result of a great diablo but BLIZZARD making an economicly sound and astute conclusion in the end.
Side Note: I am hoping I will receive feedback on my post from everyone in the form of posts and mail. I truly would love to discuss this topic.:thumbsup: OH and I will be editing these positions if I feel the need.
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To play FPS with controller is bad enough, but its somewhat (on a super very low level) playable, especially when they put auto/help aiming, dunno, never played for more than 5 minutes lol.
This has to be the most polished argument I have ever seen. I mean who would ever think about putting FPS on consoles. Some of which are halo 3, gears of war 2, Mass Effect, Bioshock and Call of Duty 4. Who ever thought fps on consoles would be a success has to be retarted (handicapped). Take this advice from a guy who has played 5 minutes of a FPS, trust me on this one.
Halo 3:D
its crazy how halo (which of course is a terrible game) had an estimated 5 million in unit sales which amounts to an overwelming 300 million U.S. dollars.
Must I say more?:confused: Come on guys you can do better than that!:D
Nothing futher to add your Honor:hammy:
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Ever heard of paragraphs?
I'm sure you've heard of colors though.
But seriously, it's really difficult to read when it isn't structured and looks like it's inscribed on a rainbow.
Where I live, I am taught to seperate paragraphs by tab overs. Since this feature is not available I found it necessary to go out and buy a new computer with a shiny new enter button so i could make a new version of the text. I would appreciate it now if you would consider reading my post now(paragraphs included free of charge). Oh and ill be happy to inform you that this computer is strictly black and white print so, this version is not going to include any color to it ^_^. Bland and simple just like what most people enjoy.
Have a nice day
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Case is now officially :necro:!!!!
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Sounds like a good way to bring more people to the franchise. But, just like rts and shooter games, I will stick with my mouse and keyboard for Diablo 3.
I believe you hit the bullseye on this topic. It would be a great eye opener for the series.
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I would just love it if diablo 3 would come out for both computer and console because I have alot of friends that own consoles and i would love to get some team play goin. But again! as long as nothing is sacraficed for computer in terms of gameplay experience.:D
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Game developers look to make the game around the primary controller. Its as much as you won't see console games (genre: fighting, racing, sports) being developed for PC although PC can handle any controller.
Before you know it Blizzard will start making Starcraft and Diablo games around the Console control scheme and you'll see dumbed down version with no complexity.
I've already made peace with PC exclusive developers going multiplatform or even dropping the PC altogether. But if Blizzard is going to make RTS/RPG games from the big 3 for Consoles, I won't buy their games anymore (as if someone gives a damn though).
RTS on Console is Ridiculous! Isometric RPG is also very bad.
I knew someone would get me there but....what I meant was getting the best experience from the game. People who can't get the required hardware or are just to lazy to get the extra parts will be able to enjoy the game on a standardised version that looks a bit better than what they could have had on their pc.
That was long for nothing but there you go:)
RTS like Warcraft or Starcraft however, is another matter entirely. RTS games do not have a positive history on consoles, most notably due to the control scheme and interface.
It is always a possibility.
Diablo 3 does not require a good gaming PC. The Graphical settings will most likely be able to be changed via options, like most other games.
Source? Speaking from experience, an average $300-500 computer can be very powerful indeed, orders of magnitude times the necessary amount to run computer games with decent settings.
Even though many PCs, which can perform many more tasks than a console, and are much more general (also, portable in the case of laptops), cost less than $300 (PS3).
Source?
rain.
thunder, lightning.
silence.
silence.
thunder.
wind, howling wind.
pricks of sound the rain makes.
slowly.
as it trickles down your roof.
behold the solemn nature.
behold the beauty of the storm.
Holy shit man, where do you live. I'm moving there NOW.
I've never heard of a (Good, Decent, Usable) PC or Laptop for under 600.
We pay more than that for a good monitor in most civilized parts of the world.
Ok, so let's say your right. D3 doesn't require high end PC's to play. Seems like a good argument until you actually compare what your getting for your money.
300$ on Console....Can play D3 with amazing graphic and speed.
500$ on a shitty PC, Can play D3 with shittier graphics and half ass speed.
So it leaves you with one real argument. The fact that PC's have more capabilities than consoles makes them better. They aren't just gaming engines but all in one tools. That's true.
I'm a PC gamer. Always been and always will be. So I'm not trying to bring down the PC. But I'm saying that it's a valid idea to want to port out simple hack and slash games to consoles in order to widen the range of players. It can't be at all that different from how God of War plays. (On a fighting point of view)
So to conclude, I would believe that Blizzard are making a good choice. Just as long as they don't forget us PC gamers I wouldn't mind seeing more people (console gamers) learn what a real ARPG is.
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!
Sooo its really about which one has more cash
I have both but no live At the moment
I like the Xbox more but I like to have a ps3 as a back up
So either or doesn't matter im getting it for the PC
(Everything s hooked up to the same HD monitor anyways)
Ok, so i guess in China PC cost as much as you say. Can't argue. But here in the US you can have a PC for 300$ that is better than a PS3 (and the emphasis is on better - about the same graphic power oh and you can do some other things beside gaming and watching movies). For 500$ a PC would own a PS3 from all sides. Please don't ask me to prove it to you. I'm tired - every time there is a Console v PC discussion - of showing, people in different forums, how you can assemble a good PC for 400$. (and yeah, some people can't assemble themselves but it still cheap to buy good gaming grade PC from retailers).
About 5 years ago, a good gaming PC would have cost at least 1200$, now its different (once again, at least in the states). For a powerful GPU to run everything at Max, once you had to shell out 500$ for now you can have for 100$. All other component prices subsided too.
Now that you know, you can go ahead and move to the US
People are arguing that on a console, it would be difficult to play an RTS with a controller. Well, the same thing goes for an FPS; a mouse gives you much more control. So why not an RTS?
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
My argument which contains both relevant POV's from both sides: You have to look at this "possible shift" from pc gaming to consoles, at an economic standpoint. I am pretty sure I'm not alone when I say that I defiantly do not want to see a complete monopoly of the gaming market. One might say a BLIZZARD, SONY, MICROSOFT, NINTENDO (MICROBLIZZONYTENDO) would turn this already cutthroat competitive market into a pile of mushy goop,though I firmly believe that BLIZZARD's WoW, StarCraft, and key financial advisors are going stay a safe static investment for years to come.(Honestly, they are not going to decide on anything detrimental towards the enterprise in which they have established) Therefore this bridging of the diablo series between mulitple systems might be a concrete idea. (Also keep in mind while there are still a alot of customers for the diablo series, their decisions on this diablo console situation will most likely not have an effect on their other games) If the decision comes to the addition of a console market for BLIZZARD I think its O.K. to assume that the constant influx of content and extensive lore from WoW and StarCraft's booming sales in eastern portions of the world is an almost indestructible backbone that easily glorifies this company. Not to mention amazing staff that BLIZZARD has acquired over the years in order to rectify such amazing titles. ( And if you truly believe they couldn't possibly generate even more prominent titles you have underestimated there unequivocal ingenuity.) If BLIZZARD were to some how come up and me and ask my opinion on whether or not to expand to consoles and why.
My reply would be along the lines of: I believe you would be making a risky decision economically, but what economist out there has truly not taken any risks. And because you are a market leader you truly have the power to make such risks with out terrible repercussions. Just make sure you keep the support of the bulk amount of your associates.
BEST COURSE OF ACTION: Focus on your computer based gamers first which are your leading and most faithful associates. Make sure diablo 3 meets/exceeds all of the necessary parameters which are necessary for the best possible gaming experience in this market. On day of release make a press conference stating that there will be attempts made at producing a console based diablo 3. From there what happens, happpens. Though the fact of reaching a diplomatic situation with SONY, MICROSOFT, and NINTENDO is no easy feat (dont forget about battle.net). If one thing leads to another maybe a release of a diablo 3 is possible and if this is achieved, move on towards opening a port.( Which is a very tricky subject b/ you do not want to disappoint your prior computer gamers or your new up and coming customers.) If we have learned anything at all from video game market history, its' that you want to make a near perfect first impression in the primitave stages.
PRO'S AND CON'S OF OUTCOME: CON'S: Diablo sales might go down do to abridged computer experience for the sake of development on consoles. (Controls, Graphics, Expansiveness, Sound, UI) Relations with console based companies which could effect the long term production of a similar product in the future. Product Upkeep for a period of time until the system is reliable.
PRO'S: Expansion of the product/brand acknowledgement. Increased development/recognition of computer to console UI which can most definitley work in perfect equilibrium. Establishment of common grounds in which a port from computer to console can be established in future projects. The creation of a very profitable relationship with console based companies. Increased profit in terms of expansions with consoles. ( Im aware of the xbox live Microsoft Points System which could be utilized to create a substantial flow of revenue in terms of game add ons)
Terms that I feel must be addressed: There are alot of threats about how customers would leave if diablo was ported to consoles. Now I believe this might be true for very few, but in terms of loyal associates that BLIZZARD has obtained over the years, if they are truly passionate about the diablo series and the lore contains, I postulate that they will be happy customers even if there is a port created. If the port turns out to be horrible I would only imagine it being removed and nothing furthur than that. (Seriously people, has BLIZZARD implemented anything without an extensive amount of thought/testing) Not to mention the Cataclysm expansion for WoW which will be a great fall back if all does end in shambles.
I also feel it is necessary to credit SETH with a truly honest and his neutral opinion on this subject! I would truly like to see him (or you for that matter, because you are probably reading this) post more about this subject.
Keep in mind that I would truly love for everyone to come out of this situation truly happy with not only the end result of a great diablo but BLIZZARD making an economicly sound and astute conclusion in the end.
Side Note: I am hoping I will receive feedback on my post from everyone in the form of posts and mail. I truly would love to discuss this topic.:thumbsup: OH and I will be editing these positions if I feel the need.
The less colorful version can be found below! =D
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother"
St. Crispen's Day Speech William Shakespeare, 1599
I'm sure you've heard of colors though.
But seriously, it's really difficult to read when it isn't structured and looks like it's inscribed on a rainbow.
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
(='.'=)
(")_(")
Stay awhile, and listen.
To play FPS with controller is bad enough, but its somewhat (on a super very low level) playable, especially when they put auto/help aiming, dunno, never played for more than 5 minutes lol.
But to play RTS with controller is absolutely impossible. I never did play RTS with controller, but i saw once a gameplay video of C&C on Xbox and well... think about it, how fast can you move the map without a mouse? how fast you can choose different unit? RTS on console is BS!
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lol I thought that XZ3ROorDieX post is spam bot, i seriously just skipped it
You can build a PC that can run Crysis (used as a high end benchmark most of the time) at 40 FPS. Here is the link Build A kick-ass $500 gaming PC . If you build it yourself a PC can be had pretty cheap. Plus since this article is a little old prices have probably gone down even more.
My argument which contains both relevant POV's from both sides: You have to look at this "possible shift" from pc gaming to consoles, at an economic standpoint. I am pretty sure I'm not alone when I say that I defiantly do not want to see a complete monopoly of the gaming market. One might say a BLIZZARD, SONY, MICROSOFT, NINTENDO (MICROBLIZZONYTENDO) would turn this already cutthroat competitive market into a pile of mushy goop,though I firmly believe that BLIZZARD's WoW, StarCraft, and key financial advisors are going stay a safe static investment for years to come.(Honestly, they are not going to decide on anything detrimental towards the enterprise in which they have established) Therefore this bridging of the diablo series between mulitple systems might be a concrete idea. (Also keep in mind while there are still a alot of customers for the diablo series, their decisions on this diablo console situation will most likely not have an effect on their other games) If the decision comes to the addition of a console market for BLIZZARD I think its O.K. to assume that the constant influx of content and extensive lore from WoW and StarCraft's booming sales in eastern portions of the world is an almost indestructible backbone that easily glorifies this company. Not to mention amazing staff that BLIZZARD has acquired over the years in order to rectify such amazing titles. ( And if you truly believe they couldn't possibly generate even more prominent titles you have underestimated there unequivocal ingenuity.) If BLIZZARD were to some how come up and me and ask my opinion on whether or not to expand to consoles and why.
My reply would be along the lines of: I believe you would be making a risky decision economically, but what economist out there has truly not taken any risks. And because you are a market leader you truly have the power to make such risks with out terrible repercussions. Just make sure you keep the support of the bulk amount of your associates.
BEST COURSE OF ACTION: Focus on your computer based gamers first which are your leading and most faithful associates. Make sure diablo 3 meets/exceeds all of the necessary parameters which are necessary for the best possible gaming experience in this market. On day of release make a press conference stating that there will be attempts made at producing a console based diablo 3. From there what happens, happpens. Though the fact of reaching a diplomatic situation with SONY, MICROSOFT, and NINTENDO is no easy feat (dont forget about battle.net). If one thing leads to another maybe a release of a diablo 3 is possible and if this is achieved, move on towards opening a port.( Which is a very tricky subject b/ you do not want to disappoint your prior computer gamers or your new up and coming customers.) If we have learned anything at all from video game market history, its' that you want to make a near perfect first impression in the primitave stages.
PRO'S AND CON'S OF OUTCOME: CON'S: Diablo sales might go down do to abridged computer experience for the sake of development on consoles. (Controls, Graphics, Expansiveness, Sound, UI) Relations with console based companies which could effect the long term production of a similar product in the future. Product Upkeep for a period of time until the system is reliable.
PRO'S: Expansion of the product/brand acknowledgement. Increased development/recognition of computer to console UI which can most definitley work in perfect equilibrium. Establishment of common grounds in which a port from computer to console can be established in future projects. The creation of a very profitable relationship with console based companies. Increased profit in terms of expansions with consoles. ( Im aware of the xbox live Microsoft Points System which could be utilized to create a substantial flow of revenue in terms of game add ons)
Terms that I feel must be addressed: There are alot of threats about how customers would leave if diablo was ported to consoles. Now I believe this might be true for very few, but in terms of loyal associates that BLIZZARD has obtained over the years, if they are truly passionate about the diablo series and the lore contains, I postulate that they will be happy customers even if there is a port created. If the port turns out to be horrible I would only imagine it being removed and nothing furthur than that. (Seriously people, has BLIZZARD implemented anything without an extensive amount of thought/testing) Not to mention the Cataclysm expansion for WoW which will be a great fall back if all does end in shambles.
I also feel it is necessary to credit SETH with his truly honest and neutral opinion on this subject! I would truly like to see him (or you for that matter, because you are probably reading this) post more about this subject.
Keep in mind that I would truly love for everyone to come out of this situation truly happy with not only the end result of a great diablo but BLIZZARD making an economicly sound and astute conclusion in the end.
Side Note: I am hoping I will receive feedback on my post from everyone in the form of posts and mail. I truly would love to discuss this topic.:thumbsup: OH and I will be editing these positions if I feel the need.
This format is for the people that feel color is overrated and individuals that can't handle the overstimulation of their senses
This has to be the most polished argument I have ever seen. I mean who would ever think about putting FPS on consoles. Some of which are halo 3, gears of war 2, Mass Effect, Bioshock and Call of Duty 4. Who ever thought fps on consoles would be a success has to be retarted (handicapped). Take this advice from a guy who has played 5 minutes of a FPS, trust me on this one.
Halo 3:D
its crazy how halo (which of course is a terrible game) had an estimated 5 million in unit sales which amounts to an overwelming 300 million U.S. dollars.
Source: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117976843.html?categoryid=2525&cs=1
Call of Duty 4:D
this dumb fps has an estimated total sales of 13 million units; which in money speak that means 780 million U.S. dollars of revenue.
Source: http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-sells-13-million/?biz=1
Must I say more?:confused: Come on guys you can do better than that!:D
Nothing futher to add your Honor:hammy:
Where I live, I am taught to seperate paragraphs by tab overs. Since this feature is not available I found it necessary to go out and buy a new computer with a shiny new enter button so i could make a new version of the text. I would appreciate it now if you would consider reading my post now(paragraphs included free of charge). Oh and ill be happy to inform you that this computer is strictly black and white print so, this version is not going to include any color to it ^_^. Bland and simple just like what most people enjoy.
Have a nice day
No further position to add your Honor:hammy:
Case is now officially :necro:!!!!
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother"
St. Crispen's Day Speech William Shakespeare, 1599
I believe you hit the bullseye on this topic. It would be a great eye opener for the series.
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother"
St. Crispen's Day Speech William Shakespeare, 1599
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother"
St. Crispen's Day Speech William Shakespeare, 1599