I would prefer a ninja type class... please guys, if they could find a place for a assasin type, with all those kung fu moves, then they can find a place for samurai or ninja.
No, wizards are from Caldeum, that wiz that is spoke of on the d3 site is from xiansia but the class of the wizard are rouge sorc youths from Caldeum, and the fact that she looks asian only adds to my theory.
the idea for Samurai class i so stuped - so lame that i even can not speak about it .
I study japanese martial arts , and sword fighting, i love the Japan culture, but i would throw my computer from the balcony if i see Samurai class in D3 !
Why would I listen to someone that spells stupid with an e?
*Jealous* Any kind of real assassin would be utterly ridiculous in D2 where the main objective is to slay hordes of demons. But see how well tha assassin works. Why is that? Because shes not a damn assassin, shes a character thats influenced by ninja or whatever and twisted to fit the needs of Diablo.
Definition of assassin
NOUN: 1.One who murders by surprise attack, especially one who carries out a plot to kill a prominent person.
Meaning the assassin class is an assassin if you read the bio in the D2:LOD booklet.
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Indeed. They were slayers of corrupted mages...Hence Assassins.
Their focus was drawn aside to the prime evils because of all the goings on of Diablo II. Hardly stops them from being assassins when they're after the Prime Evils' heads.
Well~there's a wizard now, so a class named 'samurai' or 'kensai' wont surprise me now.
Most ppl seemed opposed to samurai idea coz of the name, how bout moving away from the name and focusing on the actual concept? finesse melee as opposed 2 barb's tough melee. So a char that uses slim blades (e.g. katanas) with fancy sword moves, some support magics (disarm, knockback, bleeding wound - think "The Witcher"), and buffs/auras called meditation/alchemy/woteva
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Now Kenzai will have to wait for an exp to see his beloved samurai class.
Wizards come from Xiansai.
I can't imagine 2 classes coming from the same place in this game.
Except with an exp like barbs and druids.
The artwork on the wizard page shows a single small pic where a guy stands whos appereantly also far-eastern in appereance but its not certain who that is. After all, the male and female versions are supposed to be totally different characters so why a pic of the male wiz on the female wiz page? It could be some NPC whos related to the female wiz.
Why in the hells are both versions of the class from the same place when the location is irrevelant with the lore of the class?!?
The page design of the wizard and barb are the same and the male wizard pic is on the same spot as the female barb on the barb page.
But while barbs are a race, the wizard isnt the member of some Xsiansai mage clan so i really dont get it why both versions of the class are from the same place.
Sorry for off-topic.
Locations is NOT irrelevant to the lore.
Barbarians are NOT a race.
We are NOT off-topic.
We are discussing why can't be a samurai in the first release.
I'll would like to have him in an expansion, cause I think it doesn't fit in the first release.
Just like DII first we got barb then druid.
I don't think the female barb and WD come from any place else than their counterparts.
I think the same goes with the male wizard.
And try to write Xiansai sometime it's not that hard.:P(just messing with you)
Wizards are from Caldeum. If they were from Xiansai (which they aren't) who is to say that there aren't two classes that come from there? A samurai fits perfectly in place of the amazon; bows, 2h weapons (like daikatana and naginata), and agility type passive skills. Maybe even a summon battle steed to take the place of valkyrie
When saying lore is irrevelant with location i say it for the backstory of the wizard, not other chars or classes.
Xsiansai isnt really the place the class raises from. Its simply a person who was sent to learn from some mage clans. Its not a mage clan from Xiansai or something like that.
The culture and lore of the barbs is what makes the class. ALL of them are barbarians (as a class) so thats what i was trying to say when barbs are a 'race' but seems like i used the wrong word.
You know, there may be warriors, wizards, rouges etc. that live in say Caldeum but the barbs are a nation (is nation the correct word?) and class at the same time.
About 4th line: As i said, the culture and lore of the Umbaru race or barb tribes are the same thing as the class. The class is specific to that location and the culture of that place.
The wizard, on the other hand, does not come from say a mage clan thats specific to Xiansai. Shes a person who just came from Xiansai to learn from some mages.
So the male wizard could just come from say Westmarch to learn from other wizards, and it would be the same class as the wiz that comes from Xiansai. Because its not the class that comes from Xiansai but just the character himself.
Damn, it has turned into a habit to write "Xsiansai". :confused:
AWW YEAH !!!
The question is not form where she comes. Is the fact she looks like a asian, so i guess we're not having more then one asian character before the expancion. The chances of a samurai to comes is almost zero imo.
Ok, how about this: A fighter from Caldeum travels to Xiansai to learn their art of war and improve his abilities. So the character isnt Asian but the class is Asian.
Ok, how about this: A fighter from Caldeum travels to Xiansai to learn their art of war and improve his abilities. So the character isnt Asian but the class is Asian.
(Opposite of what the wiz is, if you didnt notice.)
There are endless ways to implement a class thats influenced by far-eastern war techniques. The character doesnt have to be from Xiansai. Not even the class has to.
lol. . . Still i think theres alot of more important archetypes to implement then the far east warrior, like a marksman, a wicked hero and a wielder of sacred power.
To me, those are really not any more important than something else. Its purely opinions, except the Paladin.
You could say a Paladin is important for every RPG, and i have to agree on that. But they said the barb is the only returning char which means no Paladin.
There could be a class thats a holy knight but different from the pally (like sorc and wiz), but then its just not a Paladin anymore.
Also i dont see a holy warrior as necessary or more important at all as Diablo is actually about defending Sanctuary from both of the other sides. (But Heaven just isnt as agressive as Hell so we almost never fight angels.)
Paladins fills the '' Wielder of Sacred Powers'' slot, that can be filled with a Paladin, a priest, a cleric or something like that.
And a marksman is even more important then a paladin. All games need some class based at the wield of ranged weapons. It's IMPOSSIBLE to not have a archer type class in diablo.
So you agree that the ''Wielder of sacred power'' are needed. I think we all agree the master bow user are also needed.
The ''wicked class'' is needed because we've no more necromancers. We need something that can be master of poison damage, use dark or skeletal armor, cast unholy spells. Man we really need a ''evil'' class. So i guess the 3 archetypes i said are all excential.
But thinking now they can do the wicked class a samurai. Those evil looking masks are scarry O.o' I guess it's a better idea then make the same repetitive Black Knight wearring giant goth plates...
As i said, the Paladin is something special thats seen in most RPGs. Everyone should agree on that.
But cleric, priest etc. are not that special. And in my opinion they are not any more important than anything else.
We dont need, or even should NOT have, a class that can use bows, crossbows, throwing weapons etc. etc. etc. at the same time. (When saying "at the same time" i mean that the single class shouldnt have skills for all of these, even if you have to choose in between them.)
Its much smarter and even more realistic to divide the ranged weapons to different classes.
If you are just talking about a class that can only use bows (and maybe something else unique to him) but no crossbows, then i would like to point out the fact that Samurai were expert bow users. The bow was actually more important than melee weapons in war, most of the time, from what i know.
As theres only place for two more classes, you are saying that either one of the two have to be wicked, yes? Both the samurai-type class and knight-type class could fit that place easily.
As we recently got more info about the barb (the skill trees), i want to mention some things:
So far there has been no skill that involves throwing weapons (throwing axe and knife, javelins are unimportant for barb). If it is going to stay that way, they will have to give more ranged weapons to a single class.
We have bow, xbow, javelins and throwing axes and knives. As i said it would be ridiculous to have one class using them all. Whats your guesses?
I think the samurai-influenced guy could use throwing knives and bows (and maybe smaller javelins) while the knight type guy could use xbows and throwing axes (and maybe javelins).
BTW Samurai used bows around as high as 2 m back then, so there could be a class-specific weapon for the class, resembling those bows, which he can use a lot better.
Actually, dont know if you noticed but, we can have a Paladin and Samurai at the same time... (pally uses xbows etc., far-east guy has a whole skill tree for ranged... amazon had 1,5 trees (spear&javelin is 0,5))
Hmm.. a wicked Samurai using expert on bows ?
Err... It does not sound very archetyple in my opnion. And Jay Wilson said they want the D3 classes very archetyple you kno. Only classic things like ''The Giant-Muscular Brawler'', the ''Wise Magic User''... The WD sounds not so archetyple in my opnion, but he can easily fit the ''Rustical Elder'' slot ocuped by the Druid in D2.
You can think i'm close minded, but i'm not. I do not agree with this philosophy, but JW have said so far about the remaining classes.
We will problably get a 2 remakes of some of the old classes or a class that just mix then.
I do not believe in something truelly new =(
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Meaning the assassin class is an assassin if you read the bio in the D2:LOD booklet.
Their focus was drawn aside to the prime evils because of all the goings on of Diablo II. Hardly stops them from being assassins when they're after the Prime Evils' heads.
Most ppl seemed opposed to samurai idea coz of the name, how bout moving away from the name and focusing on the actual concept? finesse melee as opposed 2 barb's tough melee. So a char that uses slim blades (e.g. katanas) with fancy sword moves, some support magics (disarm, knockback, bleeding wound - think "The Witcher"), and buffs/auras called meditation/alchemy/woteva
Wizards come from Xiansai.
I can't imagine 2 classes coming from the same place in this game.
Except with an exp like barbs and druids.
Locations is NOT irrelevant to the lore.
Barbarians are NOT a race.
We are NOT off-topic.
We are discussing why can't be a samurai in the first release.
I'll would like to have him in an expansion, cause I think it doesn't fit in the first release.
Just like DII first we got barb then druid.
I don't think the female barb and WD come from any place else than their counterparts.
I think the same goes with the male wizard.
And try to write Xiansai sometime it's not that hard.:P(just messing with you)
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
The question is not form where she comes. Is the fact she looks like a asian, so i guess we're not having more then one asian character before the expancion. The chances of a samurai to comes is almost zero imo.
The Last Samurai, starring Tom Cruise.
No but really I guess anything is possible.
lol. . . Still i think theres alot of more important archetypes to implement then the far east warrior, like a marksman, a wicked hero and a wielder of sacred power.
Paladins fills the '' Wielder of Sacred Powers'' slot, that can be filled with a Paladin, a priest, a cleric or something like that.
And a marksman is even more important then a paladin. All games need some class based at the wield of ranged weapons. It's IMPOSSIBLE to not have a archer type class in diablo.
So you agree that the ''Wielder of sacred power'' are needed. I think we all agree the master bow user are also needed.
The ''wicked class'' is needed because we've no more necromancers. We need something that can be master of poison damage, use dark or skeletal armor, cast unholy spells. Man we really need a ''evil'' class. So i guess the 3 archetypes i said are all excential.
But thinking now they can do the wicked class a samurai. Those evil looking masks are scarry O.o' I guess it's a better idea then make the same repetitive Black Knight wearring giant goth plates...
Hmm.. a wicked Samurai using expert on bows ?
Err... It does not sound very archetyple in my opnion. And Jay Wilson said they want the D3 classes very archetyple you kno. Only classic things like ''The Giant-Muscular Brawler'', the ''Wise Magic User''... The WD sounds not so archetyple in my opnion, but he can easily fit the ''Rustical Elder'' slot ocuped by the Druid in D2.
You can think i'm close minded, but i'm not. I do not agree with this philosophy, but JW have said so far about the remaining classes.
We will problably get a 2 remakes of some of the old classes or a class that just mix then.
I do not believe in something truelly new =(