It would be a nice twist if we are fighting both the forces of heaven and hell to safeguard sanctuary, I doubt tyrael would go evil with the things he's been through already it would just be a cop-out to turn him evil at this point.
He could have just completely decided to break away from the heavens to protect sanctuary by his own accord because they are planning to destroy it once an for all to stop hell from corrupting it to there efforts so as to turn the tide of war, I would suspect that if such a thing happened that tyrael would want to stop them from achieving there goals, even killing some of his own kind to protect them.
heres something i had just thought about. if anyone here remembers reading the sin war books. *early spolier alert* then you will know what im talking about.
*ACTUAL SPOILER ALERT*
okay at the end of the sin war 3rd book. the angris council of heaven comes down and decides the fate of sanctuary. now. this was decided by vote. some angels thought sanctuary was to be destroyed. now a thought i had was that one of the angels who thought that sanctuary is a mess and be destroyed might be trying to destroy it. another thought i had is that they said that they were going to keep an eye on sanctuary and what not (i think). and i do not think that it would be inarius cause didnt mephisto take inarius or something? well thats just what i got.
Wait... is everyone serious? Noone seems to remember how this has been discussed a thousand times before. Apparently everyone who was here back then has left, sadly. I have to merge your thread with the Tyrael Conspiracy thread.
But no, I don't completely agree with this theory. Yes it is obvious that the first few images are all part of one cinematic, but I don't believe the angel sequence is part of the same thing. Look at the design of the building that the angels are in, and compare it to the Tristram cathedral. They are too different. The angel's one is much bigger, taller, and more exquisite. And I don't believe I see two angels fighting in that meteor at all. Thats called apophenia.
You may end up being right, but right now there is simply not enough evidence to conclude anything yet, sorry.
interesting theory. But why would the angels land on the cathedral?
Simple. The "evil angel" wanted to go there. But Tyreal wanted to stop him/her. Of course he failed, again. This time unleashing the Lord of Terror (maybe) as he failed. At least he killed the angel, and saved Leah and Cain, as it seems that Leah lived, and Cain did as well.
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One was heading there and the other was trying to stop them?
Like the theory, makes for fun speculation.
Ah.... beat me too it.... By 2 hours actually.... Wow....
Because then Tyreal would have no destroyed the worldstone, which, if left untouched, would fall under Hell's control, which would be worst than if nobody controled it.
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Wait... is everyone serious? Noone seems to remember how this has been discussed a thousand times before. Apparently everyone who was here back then has left, sadly. I have to merge your thread with the Tyrael Conspiracy thread.
But no, I don't completely agree with this theory. Yes it is obvious that the first few images are all part of one cinematic, but I don't believe the angel sequence is part of the same thing. Look at the design of the building that the angels are in, and compare it to the Tristram cathedral. They are too different. The angel's one is much bigger, taller, and more exquisite. And I don't believe I see two angels fighting in that meteor at all. Thats called apophenia.
You may end up being right, but right now there is simply not enough evidence to conclude anything yet, sorry.
Merge that guy's post with the first post, since we can have all sides to the story available to us, instead of having to look frantically for it in this thread.
interesting...we dont even know what was the result of the battle between tyrael and baal...who won? or did baal do something to tyrael to corrupt him..?
yeah very true, I also have a theory of my own......
Tyrael wasn't corrupted at that point but form the beginning, the master plan was the destruction of the worldstone in order to let the evils of hell enter the world to wreck chaos with tyrael as the mastermind of course they would fight the heavens and have better odds in the human realm.
the soulstone were a prominent for power for the 3 prime evils(gave them more power and control in the human realm)
now that the prime evils come directly from hell they have a great amount of more power because they are in they're pure forms
tyrael wasnt harmed or anything when we found him at the end of act II even though he fought both baal AND diablo(odd no?)
tyrael let baal corrupt the worldstone before he destroyed it so it would open the gates of hell
more angels are aligned with tyrael as well that one dude from the river of flames that never got attacked by the demons as we stood there and fought(name slips my mind atm)
when tyrael told marius to run to the portal to the gates of hell (note: ALL 3 PRIME EVILS WERE THERE) he wanted him to get caught and give the stone back to baal which of course impowers him(as a part of my theory)
tyreal is evil, in the books he first posseses achilios and tries to get him to kill ulidession and seri but he see's that his will doesnt allow him to do it, he then tricked achilios and seri into thinking ulidessen was evil, then he would have fought ulidessen himself except for the fact that he saw how he beat inarius, and then he probably thought to himself hmm these mortals have something really powerful in them if i can control this i can be the most powerful angel and rule sanctuarry...
He was Inarious' best friend after all, and they were supposed to be as close as brothers
You know what Im wondering? The Tyrael on the front page of the Diablo site had his wings changed recently, yes? what if more of those changes occur and by the time the game is released hes all corrupted just like that angel that transformes in the artwork where his wings become all fiery! Tyraels wing design on the front page in the first few months looked VERY much like orginal Tyrael wings, NOW they look like they are undergoing some kinda change.
It's obvious in the screenshots and even on the site. He used to have perfect wings... they are now all dispursed and stuff. He's CORRUPTED.... Guilty!
Note from Atrumentis: To give a better first-post to this thread, I have copied micahmatthew's post and stuck it here.
____________________________ And this looks like Tyreal is on a pentagon of 5 runes lighting up? You can only see 4 but where it cuts out on the bottom looks like another could fit, and then he starts tripping out and changing into an evil Tyreal??
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And then that looks like the same scene and place as this, where he turns... evil? His hood comes off!?
Noooooo my world will end if Tyreal is evil! What will I do?!
OK just kidding, seriously I heard another idea some tome back on this thread that hinted at Tyreal trying to stop someone else from trying to get to the chapel from Heaven, another fallen angel perhaps (of course it could be the reverse). If you look at your last photo you can see two people (I use that term loosely). In #1, it looks like that upper images you show with the winged helm character and #2 looks like it could be Tyreal or perhaps someone else not so friendly.
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He could have just completely decided to break away from the heavens to protect sanctuary by his own accord because they are planning to destroy it once an for all to stop hell from corrupting it to there efforts so as to turn the tide of war, I would suspect that if such a thing happened that tyrael would want to stop them from achieving there goals, even killing some of his own kind to protect them.
*ACTUAL SPOILER ALERT*
okay at the end of the sin war 3rd book. the angris council of heaven comes down and decides the fate of sanctuary. now. this was decided by vote. some angels thought sanctuary was to be destroyed. now a thought i had was that one of the angels who thought that sanctuary is a mess and be destroyed might be trying to destroy it. another thought i had is that they said that they were going to keep an eye on sanctuary and what not (i think). and i do not think that it would be inarius cause didnt mephisto take inarius or something? well thats just what i got.
But no, I don't completely agree with this theory. Yes it is obvious that the first few images are all part of one cinematic, but I don't believe the angel sequence is part of the same thing. Look at the design of the building that the angels are in, and compare it to the Tristram cathedral. They are too different. The angel's one is much bigger, taller, and more exquisite. And I don't believe I see two angels fighting in that meteor at all. Thats called apophenia.
You may end up being right, but right now there is simply not enough evidence to conclude anything yet, sorry.
One was heading there and the other was trying to stop them?
Like the theory, makes for fun speculation.
Simple. The "evil angel" wanted to go there. But Tyreal wanted to stop him/her. Of course he failed, again. This time unleashing the Lord of Terror (maybe) as he failed. At least he killed the angel, and saved Leah and Cain, as it seems that Leah lived, and Cain did as well.
Ah.... beat me too it.... By 2 hours actually.... Wow....
Merge that guy's post with the first post, since we can have all sides to the story available to us, instead of having to look frantically for it in this thread.
Tyrael wasn't corrupted at that point but form the beginning, the master plan was the destruction of the worldstone in order to let the evils of hell enter the world to wreck chaos with tyrael as the mastermind of course they would fight the heavens and have better odds in the human realm.
the soulstone were a prominent for power for the 3 prime evils(gave them more power and control in the human realm)
now that the prime evils come directly from hell they have a great amount of more power because they are in they're pure forms
tyrael wasnt harmed or anything when we found him at the end of act II even though he fought both baal AND diablo(odd no?)
tyrael let baal corrupt the worldstone before he destroyed it so it would open the gates of hell
more angels are aligned with tyrael as well that one dude from the river of flames that never got attacked by the demons as we stood there and fought(name slips my mind atm)
when tyrael told marius to run to the portal to the gates of hell (note: ALL 3 PRIME EVILS WERE THERE) he wanted him to get caught and give the stone back to baal which of course impowers him(as a part of my theory)
just brainstorming
He was Inarious' best friend after all, and they were supposed to be as close as brothers
Look him up.
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if he is evil then why do so many people like him, and say he is the greatest archangel of all...
i mean in the wikki it does say it now im more confused than ever about hwats going on
maybe i should get the books and read it
seems liek everyone here has and are speaking of places and names i have never heard of.......
I was looking through this list of Demons and Devil's and I came across the name Turael.
That's only one letter away from Tyrael, do you think Blizzard possibly could have been planning Tyrael's corruption from the beginning?
with the expansion pack u learn that he has the real soulstones with him...
plus a bunch of those names from that list sounds a lot like the names of the other angels and demons in diablo
blizzard couldve just took those names and changed them a lil bit to be "creative"
haha
does anybody know what i mean?
It's obvious in the screenshots and even on the site. He used to have perfect wings... they are now all dispursed and stuff. He's CORRUPTED.... Guilty!
Noooooo my world will end if Tyreal is evil! What will I do?!
OK just kidding, seriously I heard another idea some tome back on this thread that hinted at Tyreal trying to stop someone else from trying to get to the chapel from Heaven, another fallen angel perhaps (of course it could be the reverse). If you look at your last photo you can see two people (I use that term loosely). In #1, it looks like that upper images you show with the winged helm character and #2 looks like it could be Tyreal or perhaps someone else not so friendly.