Veltras, that is frickin' SWEET. They imbue the magical leylines of the world with their own essence, and strike out at the other realms. In order to be defeated, all of Heaven and Hell would have to combine forces in order to destroy not an individual, not an army, not even a people or species -- but an entire WORLD.
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Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
All in the Forger's wake is left bereft and fallow
Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?
The road's goal is the dark Origin of Being
But be wary through what thickets it winds.
-Excerpt from the Litany of Residuum;
As Translated by He Who Brings Order
At the end of Baal's run, he dies and purges a great many spirits from his body, all of which swirl around for a moment before heading straight into the World Stone. Now, I didn't notice this before but these spirits can also be seen in the cinematic, "Destruction's End", where they are mere blurs in the background as Tyrael mumbles in some unfathomable tongue.
I also didn't think about this before but Baal was able to function well enough with out his Soul Stone, though he lacked the energy of will required to assume his proper form until seizing the stone from Marius. The more I think about it, the more it seems either Tyrael was a fool -- or Tyrael knew what he was doing the whole time as he directed the Adventurers in the futile goal of destroying the stones.
If "Tyrael" IS YOUR REAL NAME!!!
But if the Spirits of the Three were not in the stones, then what became of them? Surely they would have manifested themselves in some way after the death of their corporeal bodies? Another note is that each of the Stones had been shattered, keeping them from properly containing the demons.
But if Tyrael knew what he was doing the whole time, and knew of the Stones' worthlessness, then why the elaborate ruse? Perhaps only to knock them out of commission temporarily and remove their source of power? Again, this doesn't remove them as a threat.
Ultimately, maybe all Tyrael really wanted to do was destroy the World Stone -- which he accomplished -- AND any remnants of it, such as the Soul Stones. Perhaps, were the Soul Stones left unaccounted for, the World Stone could have been regenerated from them? If so, this would imply Tyrael IS working against the designs of Heaven, and may have gone rogue. It may not necessarily have been for the sake of evil, of course; but rather, to force his heavenly counterparts to acknowledge the importance of Sanctuary and force them to face Hell alongside mortal kind? Again, I suspect the working of Belial behind the scenes; perhaps he lied to someone of great import -- either to Tyrael himself or other angels of high stature -- to instill some rivalry among the angelic host? It HAS been said that heaven has gone curiously dormant since the banishing of the three.
So:
Diablo: Banished in Hell
Mephisto: Banished in Sanctuary
Baal: Banished in Heaven
Belial: Working his dissembling magic
Asmodan: Current lord of Hell and general of the Horned Death
Duriel, Andariel: Dead, dead and DEAD... 'til Diablo 3.
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Be it through hallowed grounds or lands of sorrow
All in the Forger's wake is left bereft and fallow
Is the residuum worth the cost of destruction and maiming;
Or is the shaping a culling and exercise in taming?
The road's goal is the dark Origin of Being
But be wary through what thickets it winds.
-Excerpt from the Litany of Residuum;
As Translated by He Who Brings Order
Tyrael isn't belial. In Legacy of blood Tyrael stopped the rise of the warlord of blood. The warlord of blood is a consort of belial. That was in a time period while Diablo was in Aaranoch during Diablo 2(Lut Gholein). You first meet Tyrael in Aaranoch.
I think the prime evils wanted their soulstones destroyed so that they could return to hell and reclaim their throne. Before they returned to hell they needed to soften it up. What better way than to destroy the worldstone, unleashing a holy/unholy war between heaven and hell. When Belial and Azmodan were all but defeated they would make their return and become rulers of hell once again. I believe Tyrael tried to stop them but was overcome by corruption in the presence of two prime evils within tal rasha's tomb. He pretended to befriend you and led you to all of the prime evils and their soulstones in order to break them from the mortal realm. After killing baal Tyrael destroys the worldstone in order to set the plan into action. Tyrael is soon after banished to an icy tomb to spend all of eternity in a frozen sadness by the agrinis council.
At the end of Baal's run, he dies and purges a great many spirits from his body, all of which swirl around for a moment before heading straight into the World Stone. Now, I didn't notice this before but these spirits can also be seen in the cinematic, "Destruction's End", where they are mere blurs in the background as Tyrael mumbles in some unfathomable tongue.
Yep, and when you destroy Mephisto's Soulstone, a lot of spirits are released from it as well and it was probably the case with Diablo's too.
You know what I think? I just rewatched the Terminator trilogy not so long ago and I believe that the Prime Evils' souls are just like the liquid terminator. Regardless of how much you fragment them it will always be able to rebuild itself, and that's how I think the Three will return. It seems that the destruction of the Soulstones served anything but to delay their return.
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Tyrael isn't belial. In Legacy of blood Tyrael stopped the rise of the warlord of blood. The warlord of blood is a consort of belial. That was in a time period while Diablo was in Aaranoch during Diablo 2(Lut Gholein). You first meet Tyrael in Aaranoch.
QTF, but I think that it could be possible that a Fake Tyrael who is actually Belial in disguise returns in D3.
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I think the prime evils wanted their soulstones destroyed so that they could return to hell and reclaim their throne. Before they returned to hell they needed to soften it up.
Reclaim their throne? No offense but did you even play to D2? At the end of Act3, Diablo went in hell to announce the return of the Three and rally an endless army of demons to invade Sanctuary. Where do you think that all those demons came from in Act 5, there are even portals that lead to Hell in the different zones of the Act.
I don't believe that they wanted their Soulstones destroyed. I think they wanted to use the Worldstone's powers to enslave mankind and acquire the true power of the Nephalem so they could win the Great Conflict and destroy all creation.
The destruction of the Worldstone only delay the inevitable as a new generation of Nephalems is coming and you can be sure that the Three will find a way to possessed the strongest amongst them, one way or the other.
Yep, and when you destroy Mephisto's Soulstone, a lot of spirits are released from it as well and it was probably the case with Diablo's too.
You know what I think? I just rewatched the Terminator trilogy not so long ago and I believe that the Prime Evils' souls are just like the liquid terminator. Regardless of how much you fragment them it will always be able to rebuild itself, and that's how I think the Three will return. It seems that the destruction of the Soulstones served anything but to delay their return.
QTF, but I think that it could be possible that a Fake Tyrael who is actually Belial in disguise returns in D3.
Reclaim their throne? No offense but did you even play to D2? At the end of Act3, Diablo went in hell to announce the return of the Three and rally an endless army of demons to invade Sanctuary. Where do you think that all those demons came from in Act 5, there are even portals that lead to Hell in the different zones of the Act.
I don't believe that they wanted their Soulstones destroyed. I think they wanted to use the Worldstone's powers to enslave mankind and acquire the true power of the Nephalem so they could win the Great Conflict and destroy all creation.
The destruction of the Worldstone only delay the inevitable as a new generation of Nephalems is coming and you can be sure that the Three will find a way to possessed the strongest amongst them, one way or the other.
He could only rally the demons that remained loyal to him through the Dark Exile. How could he rally demons that weren't his? Most of Hell belongs to Azmodan and Belial. They need to destroy their soulstones in order to return to hell, they were trapped in the mortal realm. They knew that they couldn't take the full brunt of hell without softening it up a bit. Let the current regime of hell dwindle along with the angels and men in a great conflict. Then take control of hell and destroy what is left of creation. Its the best course of action. Why did Baal and Diablo leave Tyrael in the chamber? They could have slew him.
It's quite possible that the Three didn't rule Hell in Diablo 2, but still they weren't trapped in the mortal realm by the Soulstones since Diablo was able to return there with his still stuck on his forehead.
They simply fooled the lesser evil in kicking them out to trick the Angels and give them a reason to break the pact Mephisto made with the Council to stay away from the mortal world (since they don't control Hell anymore the demons will now be able to invade Sanctuary).
It's quite possible that the Three didn't rule Hell in Diablo 2, but still they weren't trapped in the mortal realm by the Soulstones since Diablo was able to return there with his still stuck on his forehead.
They simply fooled the lesser evil in kicking them out to trick the Angels and give them a reason to break the pact Mephisto made with the Council to stay away from the mortal world (since they don't control Hell anymore the demons will now be able to invade Sanctuary).
But that is what the soulstones were meant to do. I believe Tyrael only referred to act 4 as a forsaken realm, there is a hellforge but it may be called that for its demonic powers. It came off like a kind of limbo between heaven and hell. Pandemonium fortress, chaos sanctuary...
I just had a realization. In LoB Tyrael stops the warlord of blood from aligning with Belial. But the warlord of blood shows up later on under the control of Baal. Did tyrael steal him away from Horazon?
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... I like the way you think, friend. ^-^
All in the Forger's wake is left bereft and fallow-Excerpt from the Litany of Residuum;
As Translated by He Who Brings Order
At the end of Baal's run, he dies and purges a great many spirits from his body, all of which swirl around for a moment before heading straight into the World Stone. Now, I didn't notice this before but these spirits can also be seen in the cinematic, "Destruction's End", where they are mere blurs in the background as Tyrael mumbles in some unfathomable tongue.
I also didn't think about this before but Baal was able to function well enough with out his Soul Stone, though he lacked the energy of will required to assume his proper form until seizing the stone from Marius. The more I think about it, the more it seems either Tyrael was a fool -- or Tyrael knew what he was doing the whole time as he directed the Adventurers in the futile goal of destroying the stones.
If "Tyrael" IS YOUR REAL NAME!!!
But if the Spirits of the Three were not in the stones, then what became of them? Surely they would have manifested themselves in some way after the death of their corporeal bodies? Another note is that each of the Stones had been shattered, keeping them from properly containing the demons.
But if Tyrael knew what he was doing the whole time, and knew of the Stones' worthlessness, then why the elaborate ruse? Perhaps only to knock them out of commission temporarily and remove their source of power? Again, this doesn't remove them as a threat.
Ultimately, maybe all Tyrael really wanted to do was destroy the World Stone -- which he accomplished -- AND any remnants of it, such as the Soul Stones. Perhaps, were the Soul Stones left unaccounted for, the World Stone could have been regenerated from them? If so, this would imply Tyrael IS working against the designs of Heaven, and may have gone rogue. It may not necessarily have been for the sake of evil, of course; but rather, to force his heavenly counterparts to acknowledge the importance of Sanctuary and force them to face Hell alongside mortal kind? Again, I suspect the working of Belial behind the scenes; perhaps he lied to someone of great import -- either to Tyrael himself or other angels of high stature -- to instill some rivalry among the angelic host? It HAS been said that heaven has gone curiously dormant since the banishing of the three.
So:
Diablo: Banished in Hell
Mephisto: Banished in Sanctuary
Baal: Banished in Heaven
Belial: Working his dissembling magic
Asmodan: Current lord of Hell and general of the Horned Death
Duriel, Andariel: Dead, dead and DEAD... 'til Diablo 3.
All in the Forger's wake is left bereft and fallow-Excerpt from the Litany of Residuum;
As Translated by He Who Brings Order
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Anyways, I think Tyrael might go rogue... but not for evil purposes, but rather to fulfill a good to which his brothers are blind.
All in the Forger's wake is left bereft and fallow-Excerpt from the Litany of Residuum;
As Translated by He Who Brings Order
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Yep, and when you destroy Mephisto's Soulstone, a lot of spirits are released from it as well and it was probably the case with Diablo's too.
You know what I think? I just rewatched the Terminator trilogy not so long ago and I believe that the Prime Evils' souls are just like the liquid terminator. Regardless of how much you fragment them it will always be able to rebuild itself, and that's how I think the Three will return. It seems that the destruction of the Soulstones served anything but to delay their return.
QTF, but I think that it could be possible that a Fake Tyrael who is actually Belial in disguise returns in D3.
Reclaim their throne? No offense but did you even play to D2? At the end of Act3, Diablo went in hell to announce the return of the Three and rally an endless army of demons to invade Sanctuary. Where do you think that all those demons came from in Act 5, there are even portals that lead to Hell in the different zones of the Act.
I don't believe that they wanted their Soulstones destroyed. I think they wanted to use the Worldstone's powers to enslave mankind and acquire the true power of the Nephalem so they could win the Great Conflict and destroy all creation.
The destruction of the Worldstone only delay the inevitable as a new generation of Nephalems is coming and you can be sure that the Three will find a way to possessed the strongest amongst them, one way or the other.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
They simply fooled the lesser evil in kicking them out to trick the Angels and give them a reason to break the pact Mephisto made with the Council to stay away from the mortal world (since they don't control Hell anymore the demons will now be able to invade Sanctuary).
I just had a realization. In LoB Tyrael stops the warlord of blood from aligning with Belial. But the warlord of blood shows up later on under the control of Baal. Did tyrael steal him away from Horazon?
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.