Well I'd say mine is still fairly contained lol. I guess with only around 100 active posters, it's not too inconvenient to have big signatures. Gives the impression of more activity.
First off, how are we supposed to know the whole story if your gonna keep some mystical secrets.
How would you feel if you come back and you see 4 of the top members of a legion up and leave and make their own legion for reasons they won't explain or what seems to be a small mistake by our commander? I guarantee you'd act on it, anyone who gave a care about their legion would.
So you got extremely mad that your leader said 'me fudlow and thasador are making alliance guys on Lethon and you all need to join us but if you don't its cool i understand?' To me that's what the ultimatum said. maybe i misread it, but that doesn't seem too dramatic to me. if it were up to me, i'd of said we all play horde or alliance at the same time, but ultimately we play both to 70, but what's done is done.
and no, im not fucking kidding you about that statement. thas didn't want to play horde, carlos didn't really want to play horde, i didn't really want to play horde cuz i got a 69 mage over on lethon so we asked you guys join us and we all play alliance together. me and carlos started our guys on alliance and we were trying to find dudes from SICK to play with us and no one would. then idk how, but next thing i know the server everyone was on was horde on destromath.
so yeah, the ultimatum was a little harsh and i think if carlos could take it back he would. like i said, if it were up to me we'd play both factions up to 70 to get a taste for both.
If we want to keep things to ourself, accept it and move on.
I agree with you, if i was in charge of a legion and 4 important members up and left, i would act. I dont understand what your statement was trying to point out, i agree with you. I recommended to Carlos that he act instead of take leave or feel sorry for himself. Yes, our reasons are our own. Got a problem with that? Tough titties.
Fudlow, our whole problem with the ultimatum sitution was that Carlos TOLD us to play horde on destromath, and that we were to STAY there. I can find the post if you really need evidence. So we did as we were told, and now because you have a problem with horde (which is bullshit its a fucking game i still dont understand why its such an issue...is it really about good and evil? pretty sure we have established there is no good or evil...) we are expected to drop our horde characters and join our leaders? How about no. How about the leaders come and join what they started?
Fair enough you wanted to keep your high lvl char, understandable. Fair enough carlos is sick of starting over, understandable. Thas doesnt like horde? ...thats seriously something a 10 year old would fuss over. Either way, dont try and drag us from our hard work just because you dont like horde, all because your our leaders. Forget about the WoW crap now. Its been over discussed. Whats done is done, deal with it. Things are staying the way they are. Get used to it. Stop dwelling in the past. Move on. We have, or at least we are trying to, and we are forced to defend ourselves from slayers and assassins. Stop the bullshit. The sooner we can get past it the sooner we can work together and stop the nonsense.
You do have deep thinking buddy. Great work on the member bars. And this one had shield and swords.
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''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
Roo is right. Everyone playing WoW in SLAYERS are to stay on Horde in Destromatch, and keep only one character. Is that understood?
This is the order that i look back on and think to myself what the fuck happened. We were ORDERED to stay horde, on destromath.
So dont bring any more shit up about WoW from now on. This quote should be all the proof you need to see why we started on destromath, why we refuse to leave, and why we refuse to accept Carlos can change his mind when he wants and give us an all in or all out decision. Got it?
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Originally Posted by Carloseus Roo is right. Everyone playing WoW in SLAYERS are to stay on Horde in Destromatch, and keep only one character. Is that understood?
This is the order that i look back on and think to myself what the fuck happened. We were ORDERED to stay horde, on destromath.
So dont bring any more shit up about WoW from now on. This quote should be all the proof you need to see why we started on destromath, why we refuse to leave, and why we refuse to accept Carlos can change his mind when he wants and give us an all in or all out decision. Got it?
Agree'd.... maybe not just stop there, but have a big discussion between all who care about us leaving, and us... so that way if they have any questions after we explain, they get answered right away and everything is settled in one night.
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If we want to keep things to ourself, accept it and move on.
I agree with you, if i was in charge of a legion and 4 important members up and left, i would act. I dont understand what your statement was trying to point out, i agree with you. I recommended to Carlos that he act instead of take leave or feel sorry for himself. Yes, our reasons are our own. Got a problem with that? Tough titties.
Fudlow, our whole problem with the ultimatum sitution was that Carlos TOLD us to play horde on destromath, and that we were to STAY there. I can find the post if you really need evidence. So we did as we were told, and now because you have a problem with horde (which is bullshit its a fucking game i still dont understand why its such an issue...is it really about good and evil? pretty sure we have established there is no good or evil...) we are expected to drop our horde characters and join our leaders? How about no. How about the leaders come and join what they started?
Fair enough you wanted to keep your high lvl char, understandable. Fair enough carlos is sick of starting over, understandable. Thas doesnt like horde? ...thats seriously something a 10 year old would fuss over. Either way, dont try and drag us from our hard work just because you dont like horde, all because your our leaders. Forget about the WoW crap now. Its been over discussed. Whats done is done, deal with it. Things are staying the way they are. Get used to it. Stop dwelling in the past. Move on. We have, or at least we are trying to, and we are forced to defend ourselves from slayers and assassins. Stop the bullshit. The sooner we can get past it the sooner we can work together and stop the nonsense.
Stop talking about my troubles, I'm over them. Keep your reasons as well, I don't really care. All that matters is that you left suddenly, the ones that were supposed to be examples to the rest. I'm not getting angry or sad that you guys left anymore, you are gone and there is nothing I can or will do about it. SLAYERS closes its doors to those who abandon.
Ultimatum said the following:
Come to Alliance, or stay in Horde. Simple. No in betweens, either Alliance or Horde. Whatever your decision was it would stay in game, I'm not petty, I wouldn't dragged that into our friendships, the legion, or anything.
You have some nerve referring to Thas as a 10 year old. May I remind you who hated Alliance and would go only horde because Alliance was too boring or w/e? Shut your mouth then.
Nobody is dwelling in the past, because this just happened, and it is still affecting us. Just because you guys made your peace doesn't mean everyone else did. As a leader I can't tell them to stop talking about you guys, because they need to vent, and this will actually let them feel closer and more united, that they were the loyal ones, that they didn't pick up and leave. All I asked was that they tone down on the way they talk about you guys, which is more than you guys could ask for after how accepting I've been of SENTINELS and your guys's actions. Look through it with my eyes, and you will see that you are all merely whining.
You guys are supposed to be leaders, lead by example and be models of the legion you represent. All I see is you guys bickering with my legionaires and my Pilus Prior. SENTINELS showed promise because of Ferret's leadership, and the outstanding once-Slayers Decurion it started out with. You shame Ferret with this behavior, and you shame me, for who else gave you the titles you wear so proudly?
I'll throw your own advice at you. SUCK IT UP AND MOVE ON. These guys aren't going to stop just because you argue with them. I don't want to take sides, but when officers are fighting with those in my legion I must take action and quell it. Know your boundaries. You are still welcome to this hall to discuss, but you a guest here, have respect and manners.
I didn't want to do this, I really didn't. I've got enough problems here and IRL to deal with this crap, but here I am. Step to the plate SENTINELS, you better give the rest of SICK a damn good reason why they should accept you, not just whine about it. Respect is earned, not given.
Fuck your ultimatum Carlos, I dont wanna hear about it. Look at your previous orders:
"Roo is right. Everyone playing WoW in SLAYERS are to stay on Horde in Destromatch, and keep only one character. Is that understood?"
You still havent said anything about that yet. Why did you say it eh? To fuck us around? Or did you mean it at the time? And change your mind? Real good leadership skills there...you fucked us around and you paid for it.
As for Alliance/Horde, i am actually capable of bringing myself to play an alliance character, if it means playing with my friends. I prefer Horde yes, Alliance seem boring to me. Humans...boring...gnomes and dwarves might as well be the same shit...etc etc. Hell, my second character on my aussie server was a dranei warrior. Tell me to shut my mouth again and your gonna fuckin cop it.
I aint shaming Ferret or my legion, im fucking standing up for it and defending it.
You can talk about showing leadership and setting an example and who the loyal ones are and all that bullshit but whats done is done and you can call us unloyal and all that shit all you like mate. Aint gonna change nothin.
Dont feed me shit about us whining. YOU slayers whine, we defend ourselves. Its been like that since our legion started.
Rebuild your legion Carlos. We will build ours up and grow, in the end SICK will be stronger than ever before. Im done with this bullshit but as long as you or your legion says shit about mine, ill step in and send your shit right back at you. Got it? I dont care if you cant control them, thats your problem, not mine. If they say anything bad about my legion or the people in it, ill return the favor. Pretty fucking simple.
Are you fucked up in your head? SENTINELS is yet to establish and you have started all this offending thing just now?
Leave all what happened and try to establish your legion instead of breaking other's. SLAYERS is a well known and a very powerful legion. I agree that you leaving off has decreased its power but it is yet known as the same.
SLAYERS will get new recruits anyhow. But you all should concentrate on getting new people as recruits for the SENTINELS. But all what you're doing is taking out people from other legions.
At least try and recall that Carl himself gave you the high rankings. Offending him will make SLAYERS a foe of SENTINELS in thoughts if not in public but this will also affect all the other legions which are in support of SLAYERS. You want the legions to offend you? Leave Carl where he is and ignore him. He'll get to where he was.
But go and get some men and on the other side try and gain some respect for SENTINELS.
SENTINELS has my good wishes as long as it tries not to offend high authorities like Carl, Thas etc.
The more you'll notice, the more he'll say and as a result the more will be the disputes.
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''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
Are you fucked up in your head? SENTINELS is yet to establish and you have started all this offending thing just now?
Leave all what happened and try to establish your legion instead of breaking other's. SLAYERS is a well known and a very powerful legion. I agree that you leaving off has decreased its power but it is yet known as the same.
SLAYERS will get new recruits anyhow. But you all should concentrate on getting new people as recruits for the SENTINELS. But all what you're doing is taking out people from other legions.
At least try and recall that Carl himself gave you the high rankings. Offending him will make SLAYERS a foe of SENTINELS in thoughts if not in public but this will also affect all the other legions which are in support of SLAYERS. You want the legions to offend you? Leave Carl where he is and ignore him. He'll get to where he was.
But go and get some men and on the other side try and gain some respect for SENTINELS.
SENTINELS has my good wishes as long as it tries not to offend high authorities like Carl, Thas etc.
The more you'll notice, the more he'll say and as a result the more will be the disputes.
Zubin, you are wise. Much wiser than Roo at least, he obviously doesn't know the first thing about etiquette or strategy. "Stand up" all you want. I like you, I still like you, but you go too far with all this crap. You know damn well that you changed that stuff about joining Alliance, you were dead set against it at the start no matter how much I tried to convince you.
True, I make mistakes. I told you guys to stay on Destromatch, so why didn't you say so? Instead you took it as if I was going to shun you if you didn't come with me, but that only implied if you made an alt on our server.
I'll say whatever the hell I want to, its my legion's discussion hall. Also, I might want to watch the flame spewing from that hole you call a mouth, because you can get temp banned for flaming in these forums.
I love you guys, but seriously, you are getting on my goddamn nerves. Drop this. I was willing to drop it before, but you keep climbing onto your high horse and coming here telling us how we aren't right, and how you are being unjustly treated here. Don't come here if you don't like it, you have your own hall to chat in. You guys bash Equinox for how you disagree with her behavior constantly, but the minute others do the same you turn your guns on them? They are expressing their opinions and frustrations, much like you guys were about Equinox and are doing so now. If you have frustrations about us I suggest your shack or whatever it is, or over WoW.
Again, I love you guys. Just because I love you though doesn't mean I won't stick up for myself or my legion. Discuss things, or get out of the thread. Flame wars nor trolling will be tolerated from someone outside SLAYERS, and flaming will be kept to a low for SLAYERS. Let me put it in perspective:
You are leading a legion, and they are venting about stuff other people have done to your legion. All of a sudden those people who are outside your legion barge into your thread and demanding respect and that everyone forget about everything that happened.
Thats what you guys are doing. DEMANDING respect, and TELLING them to forget about everything. Authoritarian you called me? Sounds more like you.
I am done arguing about this. Bring your comments down a couple notches to discussion, instead of flame war, or I will have your posts deleted.
You may have to look into the archives, I believe it was in the old SICK signup thread. If not, it was in somethign similar.
And if you have a problem with me leading a legion, just go ahead and say it, because its becoming obvious.
I think you are a good commander. It has nothing to do with you and your ability to command, or the fact that you are doing it. PM me if you want to know what it is, and I'll tell you there.
Oh, and keep your men in line. I don't like them coming over to my threads and flaming my members and/or myself. They are welcome as long as it is discussion.
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I was thinking that some of the old LoTD members are long inactive. We can just demote them to a labourer till they return and then either they leave or make their way up.
If they didn't re-up then they are no longer in the legion.
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Hmmm, right. But i talked to Lord Elfen about the labourer rank and he said that if a legionaire remains inactive for a long time, he's demoted to a labourer and it is the right time to bring the new rank into order.
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''May the Gods give you the strength and power to bear the madness which flows through our minds.''
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
Lol, he may now have made a habit of hearing : Nice work, Keep it up etc.
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''May the Gods give you the strength and power to bear the madness which flows through our minds.''
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
If we want to keep things to ourself, accept it and move on.
I agree with you, if i was in charge of a legion and 4 important members up and left, i would act. I dont understand what your statement was trying to point out, i agree with you. I recommended to Carlos that he act instead of take leave or feel sorry for himself. Yes, our reasons are our own. Got a problem with that? Tough titties.
Fudlow, our whole problem with the ultimatum sitution was that Carlos TOLD us to play horde on destromath, and that we were to STAY there. I can find the post if you really need evidence. So we did as we were told, and now because you have a problem with horde (which is bullshit its a fucking game i still dont understand why its such an issue...is it really about good and evil? pretty sure we have established there is no good or evil...) we are expected to drop our horde characters and join our leaders? How about no. How about the leaders come and join what they started?
Fair enough you wanted to keep your high lvl char, understandable. Fair enough carlos is sick of starting over, understandable. Thas doesnt like horde? ...thats seriously something a 10 year old would fuss over. Either way, dont try and drag us from our hard work just because you dont like horde, all because your our leaders. Forget about the WoW crap now. Its been over discussed. Whats done is done, deal with it. Things are staying the way they are. Get used to it. Stop dwelling in the past. Move on. We have, or at least we are trying to, and we are forced to defend ourselves from slayers and assassins. Stop the bullshit. The sooner we can get past it the sooner we can work together and stop the nonsense.
So my preference in all games to be human/humanoid is something that a 10 year old would fuss about eh? Come on. What did I do to you Josh? Yet you use me as a target in this dispute that I was not part of. All I said via MSN to Carlos when he asked me Horde or Alliance when i get on...since he enjoys playing games with me, is that I dont want to go to horde because I enjoy playing human characters. What? Is that so wrong? I think pointing this out towards me is something a 10 year old would do. Josh, I thought we were buds but your true colors come out. I have nothing else to say.
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If we want to keep things to ourself, accept it and move on.
I agree with you, if i was in charge of a legion and 4 important members up and left, i would act. I dont understand what your statement was trying to point out, i agree with you. I recommended to Carlos that he act instead of take leave or feel sorry for himself. Yes, our reasons are our own. Got a problem with that? Tough titties.
Fudlow, our whole problem with the ultimatum sitution was that Carlos TOLD us to play horde on destromath, and that we were to STAY there. I can find the post if you really need evidence. So we did as we were told, and now because you have a problem with horde (which is bullshit its a fucking game i still dont understand why its such an issue...is it really about good and evil? pretty sure we have established there is no good or evil...) we are expected to drop our horde characters and join our leaders? How about no. How about the leaders come and join what they started?
Fair enough you wanted to keep your high lvl char, understandable. Fair enough carlos is sick of starting over, understandable. Thas doesnt like horde? ...thats seriously something a 10 year old would fuss over. Either way, dont try and drag us from our hard work just because you dont like horde, all because your our leaders. Forget about the WoW crap now. Its been over discussed. Whats done is done, deal with it. Things are staying the way they are. Get used to it. Stop dwelling in the past. Move on. We have, or at least we are trying to, and we are forced to defend ourselves from slayers and assassins. Stop the bullshit. The sooner we can get past it the sooner we can work together and stop the nonsense.
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
This is the order that i look back on and think to myself what the fuck happened. We were ORDERED to stay horde, on destromath.
So dont bring any more shit up about WoW from now on. This quote should be all the proof you need to see why we started on destromath, why we refuse to leave, and why we refuse to accept Carlos can change his mind when he wants and give us an all in or all out decision. Got it?
Originally Posted by Carloseus
Roo is right. Everyone playing WoW in SLAYERS are to stay on Horde in Destromatch, and keep only one character. Is that understood?
This is the order that i look back on and think to myself what the fuck happened. We were ORDERED to stay horde, on destromath.
So dont bring any more shit up about WoW from now on. This quote should be all the proof you need to see why we started on destromath, why we refuse to leave, and why we refuse to accept Carlos can change his mind when he wants and give us an all in or all out decision. Got it?
Stop talking about my troubles, I'm over them. Keep your reasons as well, I don't really care. All that matters is that you left suddenly, the ones that were supposed to be examples to the rest. I'm not getting angry or sad that you guys left anymore, you are gone and there is nothing I can or will do about it. SLAYERS closes its doors to those who abandon.
Ultimatum said the following:
Come to Alliance, or stay in Horde. Simple. No in betweens, either Alliance or Horde. Whatever your decision was it would stay in game, I'm not petty, I wouldn't dragged that into our friendships, the legion, or anything.
You have some nerve referring to Thas as a 10 year old. May I remind you who hated Alliance and would go only horde because Alliance was too boring or w/e? Shut your mouth then.
Nobody is dwelling in the past, because this just happened, and it is still affecting us. Just because you guys made your peace doesn't mean everyone else did. As a leader I can't tell them to stop talking about you guys, because they need to vent, and this will actually let them feel closer and more united, that they were the loyal ones, that they didn't pick up and leave. All I asked was that they tone down on the way they talk about you guys, which is more than you guys could ask for after how accepting I've been of SENTINELS and your guys's actions. Look through it with my eyes, and you will see that you are all merely whining.
You guys are supposed to be leaders, lead by example and be models of the legion you represent. All I see is you guys bickering with my legionaires and my Pilus Prior. SENTINELS showed promise because of Ferret's leadership, and the outstanding once-Slayers Decurion it started out with. You shame Ferret with this behavior, and you shame me, for who else gave you the titles you wear so proudly?
I'll throw your own advice at you. SUCK IT UP AND MOVE ON. These guys aren't going to stop just because you argue with them. I don't want to take sides, but when officers are fighting with those in my legion I must take action and quell it. Know your boundaries. You are still welcome to this hall to discuss, but you a guest here, have respect and manners.
I didn't want to do this, I really didn't. I've got enough problems here and IRL to deal with this crap, but here I am. Step to the plate SENTINELS, you better give the rest of SICK a damn good reason why they should accept you, not just whine about it. Respect is earned, not given.
Carloseus
"Roo is right. Everyone playing WoW in SLAYERS are to stay on Horde in Destromatch, and keep only one character. Is that understood?"
You still havent said anything about that yet. Why did you say it eh? To fuck us around? Or did you mean it at the time? And change your mind? Real good leadership skills there...you fucked us around and you paid for it.
As for Alliance/Horde, i am actually capable of bringing myself to play an alliance character, if it means playing with my friends. I prefer Horde yes, Alliance seem boring to me. Humans...boring...gnomes and dwarves might as well be the same shit...etc etc. Hell, my second character on my aussie server was a dranei warrior. Tell me to shut my mouth again and your gonna fuckin cop it.
I aint shaming Ferret or my legion, im fucking standing up for it and defending it.
You can talk about showing leadership and setting an example and who the loyal ones are and all that bullshit but whats done is done and you can call us unloyal and all that shit all you like mate. Aint gonna change nothin.
Dont feed me shit about us whining. YOU slayers whine, we defend ourselves. Its been like that since our legion started.
Rebuild your legion Carlos. We will build ours up and grow, in the end SICK will be stronger than ever before. Im done with this bullshit but as long as you or your legion says shit about mine, ill step in and send your shit right back at you. Got it? I dont care if you cant control them, thats your problem, not mine. If they say anything bad about my legion or the people in it, ill return the favor. Pretty fucking simple.
Leave all what happened and try to establish your legion instead of breaking other's. SLAYERS is a well known and a very powerful legion. I agree that you leaving off has decreased its power but it is yet known as the same.
SLAYERS will get new recruits anyhow. But you all should concentrate on getting new people as recruits for the SENTINELS. But all what you're doing is taking out people from other legions.
At least try and recall that Carl himself gave you the high rankings. Offending him will make SLAYERS a foe of SENTINELS in thoughts if not in public but this will also affect all the other legions which are in support of SLAYERS. You want the legions to offend you? Leave Carl where he is and ignore him. He'll get to where he was.
But go and get some men and on the other side try and gain some respect for SENTINELS.
SENTINELS has my good wishes as long as it tries not to offend high authorities like Carl, Thas etc.
The more you'll notice, the more he'll say and as a result the more will be the disputes.
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
Zubin, you are wise. Much wiser than Roo at least, he obviously doesn't know the first thing about etiquette or strategy. "Stand up" all you want. I like you, I still like you, but you go too far with all this crap. You know damn well that you changed that stuff about joining Alliance, you were dead set against it at the start no matter how much I tried to convince you.
True, I make mistakes. I told you guys to stay on Destromatch, so why didn't you say so? Instead you took it as if I was going to shun you if you didn't come with me, but that only implied if you made an alt on our server.
I'll say whatever the hell I want to, its my legion's discussion hall. Also, I might want to watch the flame spewing from that hole you call a mouth, because you can get temp banned for flaming in these forums.
I love you guys, but seriously, you are getting on my goddamn nerves. Drop this. I was willing to drop it before, but you keep climbing onto your high horse and coming here telling us how we aren't right, and how you are being unjustly treated here. Don't come here if you don't like it, you have your own hall to chat in. You guys bash Equinox for how you disagree with her behavior constantly, but the minute others do the same you turn your guns on them? They are expressing their opinions and frustrations, much like you guys were about Equinox and are doing so now. If you have frustrations about us I suggest your shack or whatever it is, or over WoW.
Again, I love you guys. Just because I love you though doesn't mean I won't stick up for myself or my legion. Discuss things, or get out of the thread. Flame wars nor trolling will be tolerated from someone outside SLAYERS, and flaming will be kept to a low for SLAYERS. Let me put it in perspective:
You are leading a legion, and they are venting about stuff other people have done to your legion. All of a sudden those people who are outside your legion barge into your thread and demanding respect and that everyone forget about everything that happened.
Thats what you guys are doing. DEMANDING respect, and TELLING them to forget about everything. Authoritarian you called me? Sounds more like you.
I am done arguing about this. Bring your comments down a couple notches to discussion, instead of flame war, or I will have your posts deleted.
I think you are a good commander. It has nothing to do with you and your ability to command, or the fact that you are doing it. PM me if you want to know what it is, and I'll tell you there.
Oh, and keep your men in line. I don't like them coming over to my threads and flaming my members and/or myself. They are welcome as long as it is discussion.
Folks will always come and go, so enjoy them while they're meant to be in your life.
If they didn't re-up then they are no longer in the legion.
Folks will always come and go, so enjoy them while they're meant to be in your life.
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface