1. its just as cartoonish as the RTS series
2. Its not a part of the series (its not Warcraft 4, its World of Warcraft) and a completely different kind of game (as i mentioned in previous posts, you didnt read)
i wasnt. Anyway, if its indeed ur opinion then u really fail to support it logically.
According to the oxford dictoionary, an opinion is: a view or judgement not necessarily based on fact or knowledge
So wow i guess that just fucks up your ideas. I can say whatever the fuck i want, as can everyone here, and it is still classed as an opinion. The actual integrity of the opinion doesnt matter, an opinion is an opinion.
What i have been trying to say all along is that I THINK WoW gives WARCRAFT a bad name. When i think of warcraft (and before WoW came out so did everyone else on the planet) i think of one of the greatest RTS games of all time. Period. Not a MMORPG. And a pretty shit one at that. Thats my opinion, take it or leave it. If you dont like it then tough titties, but dont go digging up pictures to try and insult me. I didnt ask for conflict but you had to be a fucking smart ass didnt you. Jeez...
According to the oxford dictoionary, an opinion is: a view or judgement not necessarily based on fact or knowledge
cool.
So wow i guess that just fucks up your ideas. I can say whatever the fuck i want, as can everyone here, and it is still classed as an opinion. The actual integrity of the opinion doesnt matter, an opinion is an opinion.
i'll let u answer to that:
What i have been trying to say all along is that WoW gives WARCRAFT a bad name.
that u failed to support, thus ur full of shit. U tried to say something thats not just an opinion. U tried to make a statement without valid points.
Warcraft has its own universe. Its not just the RTS series. It has books that tell its story etc. Dont like it? Your problem. WoW is a great game all the way that kept many aspects of its RTS series (just as the cartoonish graphics - the ones u prolly dont like in the RTS series too?), continues the history and makes the lore even better and allows u to jump in.
According to the oxford dictoionary, an opinion is: a view or judgement not necessarily based on fact or knowledge
That may very well be. However, that doesn't make it a valid opinion.
So wow i guess that just fucks up your ideas. I can say whatever the fuck i want, as can everyone here, and it is still classed as an opinion. The actual integrity of the opinion doesnt matter, an opinion is an opinion.
...no matter how stupid your opinion may be. And believe me, it's very stupid.
What i have been trying to say all along is that WoW gives WARCRAFT a bad name.
Apparantly not, as they had sold more copies of WoW than any other game in the WC series or D2.
When i think of warcraft (and before WoW came out so did everyone else on the planet) i think of one of the greatest RTS games of all time. Period. Not a MMORPG.
Yes, because we all know that MMORPGs are what ruin a series. *sarcasm*
And a pretty shit one at that.
You still haven't given any logical reasoning for claiming that it's a bad game. Therefore, your opinion is negligible and so is your life.
Thats my opinion, take it or leave it.
I'll put your opinion in the context of a bad joke. I get it, I just don't want it. In context in which you'd best understand, that's your opinion, take it or leave it. And it's a pretty shit one at that.
If you dont like it then tough titties, but dont go digging up pictures to try and insult me.
As any straight man would, I like my titties soft, for the record. But don't be mad just cuz of a picture. You'd be no better than Muslims trying to stomp on artists national freedoms for drawing a picture of Mohammad.
I didnt ask for conflict but you had to be a fucking smart ass didnt you. Jeez...
Ok, this is probably the most retarded thing I have ever read on the internet. I said this once here and I will say it again:
WORLD OF WARCRAFT IS THE GREATEST GAME EVER!!!
Yeah that may seem like a bold statement but consider this.
1. No other game has had a world like WoW. Everything is detailed, with different wildernesses, cities, kingdoms towns, etc. Everquest was somewhat like this but the PoK killed everything.
2. The graphics are amazing for a MMORPG. When you are in a certian area, you can feel the area, and the music along with it really sets in a mood.
3. You do more than killing. There is always something different to do.
4. The gameplay is really easy to learn, but it is not so simple. Anyone can learn on the first day, but learning to get use to the world and picking up your own style is a different case.
5. You have to use teamwork. You don't just hack and slash, but you have to use abilities based on the favor of the group and learn common manners. Hardly any other online games except for RTS games have that trait.
6. What other game will you have e-friends that you can actually call friends friends. You virtually have your own social life in WoW, and it is a good escape from your RL.
Oh and for all of you kids who were bashing WoW here are some responses.
So the graphics are cartoonish. Well it's a fantasy world is it not. So it suits well with the game, and the graphics are still fantastic. At least characters have their own appearances and actually have faces, unlike other games *cough*diablo.
Oh so the game is boring. Well I'm sure it must be boring to some 12 year old kid who is used to diablo, in which he doesn't nothing but hack and slash. So go ahead, stick with diablo.
So you all say it screwed up Warcraft because it took away the RTS concept. Did it not occur to you all that it not only put warcraft to the next level, but Blizzard itself. Besides I didn't like to play warcraft III online because every there was such a jerk. Bashing WoW because it is a warcraft MMORPG is just like bashing the LoTR games cause LoTR was suspose to be a novel/movie.
You kids also complain about how a few creatures are impossible to kill on your own. Well, would you rather enjoy it if you had a invincible character who can take on the whole game effortlessly. WoW is just more real in this sense in which you just can't rush into a camp or especially an enemy town and nail everyone.
and finally about the 15 bucks per month. Incase you didn't know kiddos, there is a team that not only keeps WoW realms in top shape, but also add new things to the game constantly. You see kids, these people need money too. As far as I am concerned, the montly fee is worth every penny.
Ok, this is probably the most retarded thing I have ever read on the internet. I said this once here and I will say it again:
WORLD OF WARCRAFT IS THE GREATEST GAME EVER!!!
Yeah that may seem like a bold statement but consider this.
1. No other game has had a world like WoW.
True, but because WoW is WoW not Diablo or EQ
2. The graphics are amazing for a MMORPG. When you are in a certian area, you can feel the area, and the music along with it really sets in a mood.
Also true, but the people on this forum detest MMORPGs, so we don't really care what happens with MMORPGs, unless it invades D3
3. You do more than killing. There is always something different to do.
On D2, you can do quest as well, and Pk too
4. The gameplay is really easy to learn, but it is not so simple. Anyone can learn on the first day, but learning to get use to the world and picking up your own style is a different case.
Same in D2....
5. You have to use teamwork. You don't just hack and slash, but you have to use abilities based on the favor of the group and learn common manners. Hardly any other online games except for RTS games have that trait.
Have you EVER played D2 online through hell without being rushed by a ultra-powerful friend????
6. What other game will you have e-friends that you can actually call friends friends. You virtually have your own social life in WoW, and it is a good escape from your RL.
All the better reasons to not play WoW, I mean, who wants to have no life and be addicted to cyber-space.....
Oh and for all of you kids who were bashing WoW here are some responses.
So the graphics are cartoonish. Well it's a fantasy world is it not. So it suits well with the game, and the graphics are still fantastic. At least characters have their own appearances and actually have faces, unlike other games *cough*diablo.
Well, its from a bird's-eye view, so of course the characters are going to be minimized....
Oh so the game is boring. Well I'm sure it must be boring to some 12 year old kid who is used to diablo, in which he doesn't nothing but hack and slash. So go ahead, stick with diablo.
That's why we made this forum, if you havnt noticed
So you all say it screwed up Warcraft because it took away the RTS concept. Did it not occur to you all that it not only put warcraft to the next level, but Blizzard itself. Besides I didn't like to play warcraft III online because every there was such a jerk. Bashing WoW because it is a warcraft MMORPG is just like bashing the LoTR games cause LoTR was suspose to be a novel/movie.
Maybe that's what you think, but everyone has their own opinon, and the people here on this forum, think not.
You kids also complain about how a few creatures are impossible to kill on your own. Well, would you rather enjoy it if you had a invincible character who can take on the whole game effortlessly. WoW is just more real in this sense in which you just can't rush into a camp or especially an enemy town and nail everyone.
No not really, then there would be not point in the game, to some of us, the D2 world is just as challenging as to the WoW world...
and finally about the 15 bucks per month. Incase you didn't know kiddos, there is a team that not only keeps WoW realms in top shape, but also add new things to the game constantly. You see kids, these people need money too. As far as I am concerned, the montly fee is worth every penny.
Have you not noticed the lag and the sites selling WoW items? Yup, that team is doing a really good job.
same u can do in WoW and much more, but u cant compare it with Diablo. Dont be silly. U cant compare a MMORPG with a Hack & Slash rpg thats mainly single player (with a coop option).
Have you EVER played D2 online through hell without being rushed by a ultra-powerful friend????
have u? Diablo 2 is perfectly soloable from lvl 1 to 99 to all normal/nm/hell. If a player knows how to play, he manages to finish it. Thats why Multiplayer is just an option.
and the people here on this forum, think not.
cant speak for all the people on the forum. There are only few stupid people (i hope) that try to compare Diablo with WoW. I dont agree with the comparison this "WoW Fan" makes. I think its just as stupid as the tries to prove the exact opposite.
No not really, then there would be not point in the game, to some of us, the D2 world is just as challenging as to the WoW world...
havent found as much challenge in Diablo 2 than in WoW tbh. But Diablo was more rewarding in matter loots instead. The easier way to get access to loots made it pretty addicting to farm for them at the bosses i killed (without much effort most of the time).
Have you not noticed the lag and the sites selling WoW items? Yup, that team is doing a really good job
most sites actually sell gold, not items (Blizzard doesnt accept them, also doesnt accept e-bay accounts/item selling). Anyway, if u want u can farm it urself. If u want u can also report the bots that do farm gold/items and get their account banned from the game. U see, Blizzard hired more personell to take care of these things (Game Masters 24/7 to assist u with any problems for example) with the money we pay. Paying for a service u actually get isnt bad at all.
Ok i fixed my previous post...does it make more sense now?
@ Muttonchops and FingolfinGR
Just tried to point out that its MY opinion. And so you guys have decided to have an opinion on my opinion? I dont understand...all im trying to do is talk about the topic? Isnt that what we are sposed to do? I mean, im sure bagging a random person you dont know on some random forums makes you feel all big, but its kinda pathetic and not really the point of the forums.
Question: do you guys even like the diablo series?
And muttonchops, i dont need you explaining the female anatomy to me. It was a figure of speech, a saying, not an invitation to talk about tits.
Oh and muttonchops, thanks but i dont need you commenting on my life. Have a good one you cunt
What i have been trying to say all along is that I THINK WoW gives WARCRAFT a bad name. When i think of warcraft (and before WoW came out so did everyone else on the planet) i think of one of the greatest RTS games of all time. Period. Not a MMORPG. And a pretty shit one at that. Thats my opinion, take it or leave it. If you dont like it then tough titties, but dont go digging up pictures to try and insult me. I didnt ask for conflict but you had to be a fucking smart ass didnt you. Jeez...
You think it was one of the greatest RTS series. Guess what? It STILL is! The RTS series isnt over yet and thats confirmed by Metzen himself.
You think WoW is a shitty MMORPG. Thinking requires logic and u lack at that (at least on this matter). So its either "i dont like for x & y reasons" or "i'm full of shit and i dont know what i'm talking about". If its an opinion keep it for urself. When you talk with a community bring out some points.
Just tried to point out that its MY opinion. And so you guys have decided to have an opinion on my opinion? I dont understand...all im trying to do is talk about the topic? Isnt that what we are sposed to do? I mean, im sure bagging a random person you dont know on some random forums makes you feel all big, but its kinda pathetic and not really the point of the forums.
whats more pathetic is to say something and ask of it to be left there just because u dont have any points to support it. An opinion u can have without saying it. If you want to talk to someone about it just have the brains to think of something to support it. And btw ur not really talking about this topic by "its my opinion so take it or leave it". People here said WoW sux and we disagree. We also have facts it doesnt so spare us.
Big i feel anyway. I dont argue only here. I TALK with people everywhere. And i can get convinced too when the one i'm talking to has some good points.
Question: do you guys even like the diablo series?
i'll answer with another question:
have you ever read any of my previous posts on this forum? If yes then ur out of ur mind. If not then just do it and see for urself.
There is a very limited number of quests you can do and simply PKing to no ends does get boring.
1. No other game has had a world like WoW.
That's about as valid a reason as saying that no one has finger prints like me. No shit, sherlock. You'll have to reach further than that to bring validity to that point.
6. What other game will you have e-friends that you can actually call friends friends. You virtually have your own social life in WoW, and it is a good escape from your RL.
...I fail to see your point.
Oh so the game is boring. Well I'm sure it must be boring to some 12 year old kid who is used to diablo, in which he doesn't nothing but hack and slash. So go ahead, stick with diablo.
Oh god! NO! Why do people insist on pulling this excuse out of their asses? It doesn't prove anything.
Well, its from a bird's-eye view, so of course the characters are going to be minimized....
Not only that, but you can't criticize a game that came out several years ago about for not having good graphics in comparison to World of Warcraft.
CAN WE JUST STOP THIS PLEASE??? THERE IS NO WAY TO COMPARE TWO DIFFERENT GAMES LIKE DIABLO AND WOW, THATS IS JUST BASCIALLY IMPOSSBILE!! WoW IS AN MMORPG, AND DIABLO ISNT! SO OF COURSE THERES GONNA BE SOME BIG GAPS IN BETWEEN..... my point is, u cant compare two completely different games. ( completely different means in game style, for those who try to act like smart asses, and say i quote ' Oh no, its not completely different, they are made by the same company.' ( Talking about Blizzard all togeter, not seperate like BLizzard NOrth and stuff, for those other wanna be smart asses)
Damn! An MMORPG is a RPG with a touch of MMO! (Damn that's gotta taste bad)
So I don't see why you would not be able to compare the RPG part of the two games!
this is why i detest smart ass wannabes
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Oh and you're claiming that his comeback is bad just cuz you got burned and can't think of anything better.
That is right, Fingolfin. I see no change in style. The only difference I see is that the models in WoW lack the clubbed extremities that WC3 had.
I beg to differ, as I was never considered together with these guys with a lack of reason. Basically, I never associated with retards.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
According to the oxford dictoionary, an opinion is: a view or judgement not necessarily based on fact or knowledge
So wow i guess that just fucks up your ideas. I can say whatever the fuck i want, as can everyone here, and it is still classed as an opinion. The actual integrity of the opinion doesnt matter, an opinion is an opinion.
What i have been trying to say all along is that I THINK WoW gives WARCRAFT a bad name. When i think of warcraft (and before WoW came out so did everyone else on the planet) i think of one of the greatest RTS games of all time. Period. Not a MMORPG. And a pretty shit one at that. Thats my opinion, take it or leave it. If you dont like it then tough titties, but dont go digging up pictures to try and insult me. I didnt ask for conflict but you had to be a fucking smart ass didnt you. Jeez...
cool.
i'll let u answer to that:
that u failed to support, thus ur full of shit. U tried to say something thats not just an opinion. U tried to make a statement without valid points.
Warcraft has its own universe. Its not just the RTS series. It has books that tell its story etc. Dont like it? Your problem. WoW is a great game all the way that kept many aspects of its RTS series (just as the cartoonish graphics - the ones u prolly dont like in the RTS series too?), continues the history and makes the lore even better and allows u to jump in.
That may very well be. However, that doesn't make it a valid opinion.
...no matter how stupid your opinion may be. And believe me, it's very stupid.
Apparantly not, as they had sold more copies of WoW than any other game in the WC series or D2.
Yes, because we all know that MMORPGs are what ruin a series. *sarcasm*
You still haven't given any logical reasoning for claiming that it's a bad game. Therefore, your opinion is negligible and so is your life.
I'll put your opinion in the context of a bad joke. I get it, I just don't want it. In context in which you'd best understand, that's your opinion, take it or leave it. And it's a pretty shit one at that.
As any straight man would, I like my titties soft, for the record. But don't be mad just cuz of a picture. You'd be no better than Muslims trying to stomp on artists national freedoms for drawing a picture of Mohammad.
Better than being a dumbass, such as yourself.
WORLD OF WARCRAFT IS THE GREATEST GAME EVER!!!
Yeah that may seem like a bold statement but consider this.
1. No other game has had a world like WoW. Everything is detailed, with different wildernesses, cities, kingdoms towns, etc. Everquest was somewhat like this but the PoK killed everything.
2. The graphics are amazing for a MMORPG. When you are in a certian area, you can feel the area, and the music along with it really sets in a mood.
3. You do more than killing. There is always something different to do.
4. The gameplay is really easy to learn, but it is not so simple. Anyone can learn on the first day, but learning to get use to the world and picking up your own style is a different case.
5. You have to use teamwork. You don't just hack and slash, but you have to use abilities based on the favor of the group and learn common manners. Hardly any other online games except for RTS games have that trait.
6. What other game will you have e-friends that you can actually call friends friends. You virtually have your own social life in WoW, and it is a good escape from your RL.
Oh and for all of you kids who were bashing WoW here are some responses.
So the graphics are cartoonish. Well it's a fantasy world is it not. So it suits well with the game, and the graphics are still fantastic. At least characters have their own appearances and actually have faces, unlike other games *cough*diablo.
Oh so the game is boring. Well I'm sure it must be boring to some 12 year old kid who is used to diablo, in which he doesn't nothing but hack and slash. So go ahead, stick with diablo.
So you all say it screwed up Warcraft because it took away the RTS concept. Did it not occur to you all that it not only put warcraft to the next level, but Blizzard itself. Besides I didn't like to play warcraft III online because every there was such a jerk. Bashing WoW because it is a warcraft MMORPG is just like bashing the LoTR games cause LoTR was suspose to be a novel/movie.
You kids also complain about how a few creatures are impossible to kill on your own. Well, would you rather enjoy it if you had a invincible character who can take on the whole game effortlessly. WoW is just more real in this sense in which you just can't rush into a camp or especially an enemy town and nail everyone.
and finally about the 15 bucks per month. Incase you didn't know kiddos, there is a team that not only keeps WoW realms in top shape, but also add new things to the game constantly. You see kids, these people need money too. As far as I am concerned, the montly fee is worth every penny.
Also true, but the people on this forum detest MMORPGs, so we don't really care what happens with MMORPGs, unless it invades D3
On D2, you can do quest as well, and Pk too
Same in D2....
Have you EVER played D2 online through hell without being rushed by a ultra-powerful friend????
All the better reasons to not play WoW, I mean, who wants to have no life and be addicted to cyber-space.....
Well, its from a bird's-eye view, so of course the characters are going to be minimized....
That's why we made this forum, if you havnt noticed
Maybe that's what you think, but everyone has their own opinon, and the people here on this forum, think not.
No not really, then there would be not point in the game, to some of us, the D2 world is just as challenging as to the WoW world...
Have you not noticed the lag and the sites selling WoW items? Yup, that team is doing a really good job.
Well, there goes my 2 cents
same u can do in WoW and much more, but u cant compare it with Diablo. Dont be silly. U cant compare a MMORPG with a Hack & Slash rpg thats mainly single player (with a coop option).
have u? Diablo 2 is perfectly soloable from lvl 1 to 99 to all normal/nm/hell. If a player knows how to play, he manages to finish it. Thats why Multiplayer is just an option.
cant speak for all the people on the forum. There are only few stupid people (i hope) that try to compare Diablo with WoW. I dont agree with the comparison this "WoW Fan" makes. I think its just as stupid as the tries to prove the exact opposite.
havent found as much challenge in Diablo 2 than in WoW tbh. But Diablo was more rewarding in matter loots instead. The easier way to get access to loots made it pretty addicting to farm for them at the bosses i killed (without much effort most of the time).
most sites actually sell gold, not items (Blizzard doesnt accept them, also doesnt accept e-bay accounts/item selling). Anyway, if u want u can farm it urself. If u want u can also report the bots that do farm gold/items and get their account banned from the game. U see, Blizzard hired more personell to take care of these things (Game Masters 24/7 to assist u with any problems for example) with the money we pay. Paying for a service u actually get isnt bad at all.
cheers.
@ Muttonchops and FingolfinGR
Just tried to point out that its MY opinion. And so you guys have decided to have an opinion on my opinion? I dont understand...all im trying to do is talk about the topic? Isnt that what we are sposed to do? I mean, im sure bagging a random person you dont know on some random forums makes you feel all big, but its kinda pathetic and not really the point of the forums.
Question: do you guys even like the diablo series?
And muttonchops, i dont need you explaining the female anatomy to me. It was a figure of speech, a saying, not an invitation to talk about tits.
Oh and muttonchops, thanks but i dont need you commenting on my life. Have a good one you cunt
You think it was one of the greatest RTS series. Guess what? It STILL is! The RTS series isnt over yet and thats confirmed by Metzen himself.
You think WoW is a shitty MMORPG. Thinking requires logic and u lack at that (at least on this matter). So its either "i dont like for x & y reasons" or "i'm full of shit and i dont know what i'm talking about". If its an opinion keep it for urself. When you talk with a community bring out some points.
whats more pathetic is to say something and ask of it to be left there just because u dont have any points to support it. An opinion u can have without saying it. If you want to talk to someone about it just have the brains to think of something to support it. And btw ur not really talking about this topic by "its my opinion so take it or leave it". People here said WoW sux and we disagree. We also have facts it doesnt so spare us.
Big i feel anyway. I dont argue only here. I TALK with people everywhere. And i can get convinced too when the one i'm talking to has some good points.
i'll answer with another question:
have you ever read any of my previous posts on this forum? If yes then ur out of ur mind. If not then just do it and see for urself.
There is a very limited number of quests you can do and simply PKing to no ends does get boring.
That's about as valid a reason as saying that no one has finger prints like me. No shit, sherlock. You'll have to reach further than that to bring validity to that point.
...I fail to see your point.
Oh god! NO! Why do people insist on pulling this excuse out of their asses? It doesn't prove anything.
Not only that, but you can't criticize a game that came out several years ago about for not having good graphics in comparison to World of Warcraft.
my point is, u cant compare two completely different games. ( completely different means in game style, for those who try to act like smart asses, and say i quote ' Oh no, its not completely different, they are made by the same company.' ( Talking about Blizzard all togeter, not seperate like BLizzard NOrth and stuff, for those other wanna be smart asses)
this is why i detest smart ass wannabes