Intended for chaosdragon, but, anyone interested can try those...
Heretic and heXen are both games by Raven Software, they share the same storyline (3 ugly serpent riders are destroying the world, let's leave it at that).
This is a long thread. It's nothing hard. Just trying to make it foolproof.
Heretic came first. It's mostly considered a fantasy DooM clone. Heretic is very colorful, think Serious Sam. The gameplay is somewhat different from DooM and there are artifacts.
The expansion to Heretic is Shadow of the Serpent Riders.
The official page is: http://www.ravensoft.com/GamesDetail/tabid/76/XMID/7/Default.aspx
ID also has one.
For links to Heretic, PM me.
Now, for heXen. Hexen, or heXen, or HeXeN, whatever, it's real name is Hexen: Beyond Heretic. This was intended to be Heretic II but it came out so different that they made a new name for it. heXen has a lot of puzzles, it has 3 classes who are a bit different and have totally different weapons, it also has a hub system and that drives people crazy. This is not a DooM clone.
The expansion is Deathkings of the Dark Citadel. http://www.ravensoft.com/GamesDetail/tabid/76/XMID/8/Default.aspx
For links to heXen, PM me.
You are done with the games, now you need the new engine and graphics. Doomday engine is a new engine. It works with Heretic, heXen, DooM, and some other games. It does not work with Heretic II or heXen 2. Only with 2.5D games.
When you got the file, unpack it into C:\ Theoretically, it works everywhere, but there are weird issues. You may want to change the name, deng-install-1.8.6 is its usual name.
Now, if you want to play Heretic:
go into your C:\Heretic directory. Find Heretic.WAD. Copy it. Go to deng-install\data\jHeretic\ Paste Heretic.wad in there. Then go back to the root directory, and you can use jHeretic.exe to play it. From there, you can go to Options>Control Panel to change the resolution and all.
To play Hexen, do exact same thing, get HEXEN.WAD, copy it to Doomday\data\jHexen, and run jHexen.exe to play.
To play the hexen expansion, you need to put HEXDD.WAD (from deathkings directory) and put it into jHexen directory. To run it, run Kick.exe from root, choose Hexen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel from the drop down menu, and click play. You can run any game like this, actually, but I prefer not to.
Next, if you want textures and models for your games. Textures are like walls and all. Models are 3d replacements for the sprites. For Heretic, I recommend Heretic-Retextured. You can see the screenshots here, on the right of " Heretic Retextured". But the file is not there anymore, you can dl it from here: http://cainx.free.fr/Heretic.htm Right on the top. It's kind of heavy. There are some model packs on that site.
To use textures, you have to put them in a folder named "textures" and put them into the directory of your game, whether it's jHeretic or jHexen.
To use 3d models, you need to put them into a folder "auto" in the same directories.
Think you could do anything with Heretic 2? I tried the demo, love it. At least tell me all the mods/ add-ons/expansions I should get for heretic 2. Anyways, thanks a bunch! I hope I can get this to work!
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Heretic was a great game. I loved the gauntlets that shot lightning from them. And you could get that super charging thing to make all your weapons more powerful for a short period of time.
lol. Heretic 1 = worse graphics then HeXen 1 I believe, FPS genre.
Heretic 2 = better the WoW graphics in a sense (it has better graphics in what there is in the game, but no cool glows or anything that I could see so far, nothing unique in the graphics, just pretty normal), it's RPG, third person with this lightsaber-like staff and spells... and really damn screwed controls. And weird multiplayer.
Heretic 2 is awesome... you can do so much cool things. Limited combos though... really, really limited.
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Hey i'm playing Heretic 2 currently and i'm stuck with the healer and can't find the crystal , can anyone help me out ?
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''May the Gods give you the strength and power to bear the madness which flows through our minds.''
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
Hey i'm playing Heretic 2 currently and i'm stuck with the healer and can't find the crystal , can anyone help me out ?
Did you see that Simpsons where they're at that Itchy & Scratchy & Poochy Q&A and that nerdy kid asks Homer, "Um, yes, on the Itchy and Scratchy CD-ROM, is there any way to get out of the dungeon without using the wizard key?"
Hey i'm playing Heretic 2 currently and i'm stuck with the healer and can't find the crystal , can anyone help me out ?
Sorry, only played the demo. Currently downloading (sorry OTC) the full version of Heretic 2 right now. Look around for like 10-15 minutes you should easily be able to find where to go if you get stuck. Took me 5 minutes in the demo when I got stuck...
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
The full version is stretched and you do get the weapons later on and the stages seem more mysterious . I'm stuck in the slums and everything is a maze in here.
THIS GAME IS AWESOME !
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''May the Gods give you the strength and power to bear the madness which flows through our minds.''
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
lol. Heretic 1 = worse graphics then HeXen 1 I believe, FPS genre.
Heretic has better graphics than heXen, even though heXen came out later. In fact, with doomsday, Heretic pawns both heXen 2 and Heretic 2. :rolleyes:
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and really damn screwed controls. And weird multiplayer.
I don't see anything screwed there. Sometimes I didn't even change them, they are fine.
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Heretic 2 is awesome... you can do so much cool things. Limited combos though... really, really limited.
It's a TPS, not a slasher.
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Hey i'm playing Heretic 2 currently and i'm stuck with the healer and can't find the crystal , can anyone help me out ?
You need to find that place where you have that thing with water in it but there is, like, something making the water stay. If you go up, you get after the pitcher and earth, if you go down, you go after the crystal.
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Really? Aren't they almost exactly the same? Same graphics even?
All four games, for the most part, haven't got much in common. They play differently, have different rules, different difficulty, etc. And really different graphics. I would say Heretic > Heretic II > heXen II > heXen
I found the crystal and i even made that potion but that healer cheated on me.
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''May the Gods give you the strength and power to bear the madness which flows through our minds.''
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
Remember those web like clothes on the swithes ? they misguided me alot. But then i was just destroying and i just blew them and then the switches came out. hahahahahahhaha
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''May the Gods give you the strength and power to bear the madness which flows through our minds.''
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
The link for original Hexen and the link right below it for the expansion arent working for me, could u check them.
They are not links. The link, which includes all the files, is above them. They are just explanations of what files are available at that link. I cannot give direct links, I'm afraid.
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Also where can i get dosbox? and is there anything special i got to do once i dl to make sond work.
I think that's right.
You can also use dosbox to play Arena (TES 1).
EDIT: You'll also have to raise CPU cycles. It was CTRL + F something. Like Ctrl+F12 or something like that, I don't remember. You'll havve to figure that out, don't worry, the most it will do is close dosbox, I think F8 did that.
To chaosdragon
Your problem is trying to play Heretic 2 with a mouse. It doesn't even need a mouse, it has autoaim. I usually play it without, because the controls are jerky, the keys behave better. It's like playing a console game with keys. So, if you want to use mouse, yes, you have to set it up.
And, jump is on A, crouch is on Z, and so on, that's probably some demo problem.
Speaking of slashers, if you say that you want more combos, you are saying that you want the game to concentrate on melee, which makes a game a slasher. For slashers, see Blade of Darkness. Heretic II is a TPS, a Third Person SHOOTER. You SHOOT in that game, not brandish with the cleave all the time.
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Heretic and heXen are both games by Raven Software, they share the same storyline (3 ugly serpent riders are destroying the world, let's leave it at that).
This is a long thread. It's nothing hard. Just trying to make it foolproof.
Heretic came first. It's mostly considered a fantasy DooM clone. Heretic is very colorful, think Serious Sam. The gameplay is somewhat different from DooM and there are artifacts.
The expansion to Heretic is Shadow of the Serpent Riders.
The official page is: http://www.ravensoft.com/GamesDetail/tabid/76/XMID/7/Default.aspx
ID also has one.
For links to Heretic, PM me.
Now, for heXen. Hexen, or heXen, or HeXeN, whatever, it's real name is Hexen: Beyond Heretic. This was intended to be Heretic II but it came out so different that they made a new name for it. heXen has a lot of puzzles, it has 3 classes who are a bit different and have totally different weapons, it also has a hub system and that drives people crazy. This is not a DooM clone.
The expansion is Deathkings of the Dark Citadel.
http://www.ravensoft.com/GamesDetail/tabid/76/XMID/8/Default.aspx
For links to heXen, PM me.
You are done with the games, now you need the new engine and graphics. Doomday engine is a new engine. It works with Heretic, heXen, DooM, and some other games. It does not work with Heretic II or heXen 2. Only with 2.5D games.
Doomsday has a lot of different versions which all have their problems and I really don't know much about that. I use version 1.8.6, it can be downloaded here: http://archive.doomsdayhq.com/files.php?pro=1
DL " Version 1.8.6 (Windows, no installer)", please, too much trouble with the other one.
When you got the file, unpack it into C:\ Theoretically, it works everywhere, but there are weird issues. You may want to change the name, deng-install-1.8.6 is its usual name.
Now, if you want to play Heretic:
go into your C:\Heretic directory. Find Heretic.WAD. Copy it. Go to deng-install\data\jHeretic\ Paste Heretic.wad in there. Then go back to the root directory, and you can use jHeretic.exe to play it. From there, you can go to Options>Control Panel to change the resolution and all.
To play Hexen, do exact same thing, get HEXEN.WAD, copy it to Doomday\data\jHexen, and run jHexen.exe to play.
To play the hexen expansion, you need to put HEXDD.WAD (from deathkings directory) and put it into jHexen directory. To run it, run Kick.exe from root, choose Hexen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel from the drop down menu, and click play. You can run any game like this, actually, but I prefer not to.
Next, if you want textures and models for your games. Textures are like walls and all. Models are 3d replacements for the sprites. For Heretic, I recommend Heretic-Retextured. You can see the screenshots here, on the right of " Heretic Retextured". But the file is not there anymore, you can dl it from here: http://cainx.free.fr/Heretic.htm Right on the top. It's kind of heavy. There are some model packs on that site.
To use textures, you have to put them in a folder named "textures" and put them into the directory of your game, whether it's jHeretic or jHexen.
To use 3d models, you need to put them into a folder "auto" in the same directories.
For heXen, I only found the textures here: http://cainx.free.fr/Montrav.htm
On the left, click ¬ JX-TEXTURES .
Direct links to the regular Heretic and heXen models are these two:
http://archive.doomsdayhq.com/files.php?pro=3&class=4&type=6
http://archive.doomsdayhq.com/files.php?pro=4&class=4&type=6
They are not full. heXen only has, like, 2-3 creature models. I hate the 3d models, i prefer sprites.
I think that's it. You can also wonder around both sites, they have some funny stuff here and there but I don't bother. Too much to read.
If you have any questions please ask. I found out all this by myself so I know pretty much everything that may happen.
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Siaynoq's Playthroughs
Heretic II is way different then Heretic I... not even the same genre. Wow that's strange lol.
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Siaynoq's Playthroughs
Heretic 2 = better the WoW graphics in a sense (it has better graphics in what there is in the game, but no cool glows or anything that I could see so far, nothing unique in the graphics, just pretty normal), it's RPG, third person with this lightsaber-like staff and spells... and really damn screwed controls. And weird multiplayer.
Heretic 2 is awesome... you can do so much cool things. Limited combos though... really, really limited.
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
Siaynoq's Playthroughs
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
THIS GAME IS AWESOME !
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
Heretic has better graphics than heXen, even though heXen came out later. In fact, with doomsday, Heretic pawns both heXen 2 and Heretic 2. :rolleyes:
I don't see anything screwed there. Sometimes I didn't even change them, they are fine.
It's a TPS, not a slasher. You need to find that place where you have that thing with water in it but there is, like, something making the water stay. If you go up, you get after the pitcher and earth, if you go down, you go after the crystal. All four games, for the most part, haven't got much in common. They play differently, have different rules, different difficulty, etc. And really different graphics. I would say Heretic > Heretic II > heXen II > heXen
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
''Zubin, I've always imagined you as a crazy raver. The kinda guy that spends all night dancing to trance music while waving glow sticks and popping ecstasy.'' - Murderface
Also where can i get dosbox? and is there anything special i got to do once i dl to make sond work.
Atm im dl Heretic 1. yes dial-up.. lol
unzip, strip, touch, finger, grep, mount, fsck, more, yes, fsck, fsck, fsck, umount, sleep
The demo I tried... the controls were crap. Right click to run foward, middle moust for backwards, jump with /. Lame crap.
Who said it was a slasher? Btw, what is a TPS.
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=dosbox&filename=DOSBox0.72-win32-installer.exe&use_mirror=superb-west
When you run dosbox, it will give you a console window. You need to type in:
1 mount c c:\heretic
2 C:
3 heretic.exe
I think that's right.
You can also use dosbox to play Arena (TES 1).
EDIT: You'll also have to raise CPU cycles. It was CTRL + F something. Like Ctrl+F12 or something like that, I don't remember. You'll havve to figure that out, don't worry, the most it will do is close dosbox, I think F8 did that.
To chaosdragon
Your problem is trying to play Heretic 2 with a mouse. It doesn't even need a mouse, it has autoaim. I usually play it without, because the controls are jerky, the keys behave better. It's like playing a console game with keys. So, if you want to use mouse, yes, you have to set it up.
And, jump is on A, crouch is on Z, and so on, that's probably some demo problem.
Speaking of slashers, if you say that you want more combos, you are saying that you want the game to concentrate on melee, which makes a game a slasher. For slashers, see Blade of Darkness. Heretic II is a TPS, a Third Person SHOOTER. You SHOOT in that game, not brandish with the cleave all the time.