Im not saying FPSs dont have good story, because some do, but it seems like a lot of them are your basic click click bang bang no real point to them sorts of games.
Less talk=More time blowing up skulls. Nuff said
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What bugs me a lot about the Hisory Channel is the way they constantly dramatize what they're talking about.
Obviously an attempt to make people interested in documentaries. It can get annoying sometimes, but if they improved upon it, it could really become a good element of the shows.
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Most of my knowledge about English does come from PC games. Seriously.
About the violence in games: if your a retarded little child which takes everything too serious in those games, than it could be dangerous. Just like matal music and satanism/occultism.
Most people realize its just a fantacy, nothing more (though some of us are a bit guilty in this department.) The majority of the worlds millions upon millions of gamers are good people who don't pick up a shotgun or a sword and go kill people. But as in everything there are a select few who have some mental issues that get the virtual reality and the actual reality intermixed. This is when the situation gets dangerous. In a way this is kind of like a gun argument (to a lesser degree,) just because I love, and play violent video games does not mean I take them seriously enough to belive they are true and kill someone. Remember guns don't kill people, it takes a person to pull the trigger.
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If you ever meet a hafling and a hungry dragon you dont have to outrun the dragon, you only have to outrun the hafling.
Sounds good for a rough draft. If you want I can help you enhance it, there are words you can change and some points you can make stronger. But overall, its pretty good.
Sadly, I have nothing to state on this subject that hasn't previously been said. Perhaps I'm so blinded by the effects of video games, I can't post anything articulate. lol
Good draft Fudlow!
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I like the life I lived, because I went from negative to positive.
You know very well who you are, don't let them hold you down, reach for the stars.
im not big on paying $25 a month in fees when the majority of the the time i barely scrap together 4 hours a month. Im more into a really good single player RPG, that i can if i wish to, go multiplayer with friends, and do so at no additional cost.
i see.... i love WoW, i dont play as much as i'd like to though. but i pay about $77 every six months so it comes out to 12 and change a month
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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.
~Aeschylus :cool:
not entirely sure how my minimalistic playing of WOW impacts all that much on this thread.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
not entirely sure how my minimalistic playing of WOW impacts all that much on this thread.
it doesn't i was just curious, sorry, next time i'll send a msg. i'll try to keep it on topic.... from now on
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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.
~Aeschylus :cool:
I can not agree more with you, it always has to be
a) entertaining
spectacular
c) a story
d) reconstructed for the mindless
e) not that informative or deep
f) lacking of any kind of debating
If i watch a documentary about historical footage of say WWII, then i don't want that to get mixed with crappy reconstructed nonsense pretending or trying to look like actual WWII footage.
If i watch a documentary about a natural disaster that happened half a milenia ago then i don't want to listen to a crappy hypothetical heroical story about one of the unfortunate.
If i watch a program about dinosaurs i don't need to see spectacular fights of a mother dinosaur protecting her eggs then going on a massive adventure trying to find water and so on.
I don't want crappy hypothetical stories, entertaining and spectacular fights, reconstructive nonsense pretending it to be actual footage, taken by the hands incase i was a moron, leaving out lots of information incase i would be bored with the program, no arguments from multiple sides incase that could confuse me or make it as complex as it actually is.
Simple answer, don't watch tv. Television is entertainment, if you are above it then find a different medium.
Simple answer, don't watch tv. Television is entertainment, if you are above it then find a different medium.
Television exists to provide it's viewers with information, now the quality of that information can be disputed. To some extent I agree with Doppelganger, there's too much focus on stories rather than facts most of the time, but if not taken to the extreme I find it to be quite enjoyable to watch.
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Simple answer, don't watch tv. Television is entertainment, if you are above it then find a different medium.
If I find a show educational and informative, it is subsequently entertaining for me. But if a show is just entertaining that won't necessarily ever make it educational and informative.
Luckily for me, I do find most video games to be all these things. Many people who rarely or never play video games really underestimate just how enlightening a video game can be.
Television was never a primary source for intellectual learning and education. It was meant for news and entertainment, an alternative to board games or other such things. Over the last decades television has been also used as a source for learning, History, Discovery, etc. However, those are only plus's of television. Those channels teach and we learn from them, I enjoy learning therefore its double the effect on me because I can be entertained by educational programs.
However the argument of the shows sometimes being annoying because of the acting and roleplay, I really disagree with. Those shows aren't meant for the brightest or the people that love to learn. They are meant for the average person that can sometimes get confused about what is going on. Those sequences are there to provide those people an easier grasp of the content given to them and therefore they do not become confused or disinterested in the program.
That's debatable, Carloseus. Most earlier forms of television were a form of public utilities for the sake of informing people And just look at the patter televesion has taken since its inception. Sure there are good informative shows these days, even ones such as The Daily Show and The Colbert Report that combine information and entertainment. But for the most part, television is just shit now. In my opinion, about 95 percent of what's on tv is just unbearable and totally mindless.
But you make a valid point about shows like the History Channel and why they dramatize and reenact things. Cause I guess the average person does sort of need that bit of flare to get into history or to better remember it. I just find it to be really distracting.
To disregard television as a means of public awarness is ludacris.
I never said i dislike a good story or entertainment or spectacle or any of those things. I only said i dislike them in programs with the intention of making people aware about certain things instead of having high viewratings.
I thought it was funny when the History Channel did that show about the Spartans and it just looked like a really cheap version of 300. And obviously the HC's versions was more accurate, but I couldn't help wonder why they would even try to reenact everything. It just looked too cheesy that all I could think about was how bad it looked as opposed to really paying attention to what they were talking about. I suppose that all depends on the viewer though.
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I ofcourse understand some things being simplified to reach a decent number of people interested in the particular topic, it certainly requires some kind of balance but informating should always outway for example entertainment for the sake of entertainment (i'm entertained by intellectual and professional programs, that obviously wasn't the entertainment i was talking about) in those particular publical programs.
Yeah, to me, Frontline is like the best tv drama out there. And it's all non-fiction.
jesus christ this got off topic. guess its kinda the same topic though, but whatever.
what'd u guys think of my first draft? i'm gonna throw in the vegetation (people who turn into vegetables playing so much) counterarguement in there somewhere.
Television exists to provide it's viewers with information, now the quality of that information can be disputed. To some extent I agree with Doppelganger, there's too much focus on stories rather than facts most of the time, but if not taken to the extreme I find it to be quite enjoyable to watch.
quality is most definitly "disrupted" as you put it. considering the fact that the media is controled and often nicknamed the 4th branch of the government. you'll get anything but facts from them... but at the same time i do find it entertaining from time to time... just not where i go to get my "facts"
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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.
~Aeschylus :cool:
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Obviously an attempt to make people interested in documentaries. It can get annoying sometimes, but if they improved upon it, it could really become a good element of the shows.
About the violence in games: if your a retarded little child which takes everything too serious in those games, than it could be dangerous. Just like matal music and satanism/occultism.
Good draft Fudlow!
To find the truth, you must risk everything.
i see.... i love WoW, i dont play as much as i'd like to though. but i pay about $77 every six months so it comes out to 12 and change a month
~Aeschylus :cool:
That about sums everything up.
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
Lol, video games don't make you hump the computer monitor, a lifetime lack of attention from parents and inaddequate control over sexual desires do.
it doesn't i was just curious, sorry, next time i'll send a msg. i'll try to keep it on topic.... from now on
~Aeschylus :cool:
Simple answer, don't watch tv. Television is entertainment, if you are above it then find a different medium.
Luckily for me, I do find most video games to be all these things. Many people who rarely or never play video games really underestimate just how enlightening a video game can be.
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However the argument of the shows sometimes being annoying because of the acting and roleplay, I really disagree with. Those shows aren't meant for the brightest or the people that love to learn. They are meant for the average person that can sometimes get confused about what is going on. Those sequences are there to provide those people an easier grasp of the content given to them and therefore they do not become confused or disinterested in the program.
But you make a valid point about shows like the History Channel and why they dramatize and reenact things. Cause I guess the average person does sort of need that bit of flare to get into history or to better remember it. I just find it to be really distracting.
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Yeah, to me, Frontline is like the best tv drama out there. And it's all non-fiction.
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what'd u guys think of my first draft? i'm gonna throw in the vegetation (people who turn into vegetables playing so much) counterarguement in there somewhere.
quality is most definitly "disrupted" as you put it. considering the fact that the media is controled and often nicknamed the 4th branch of the government. you'll get anything but facts from them... but at the same time i do find it entertaining from time to time... just not where i go to get my "facts"
~Aeschylus :cool: