A few of you seem a bit too concerned with procuring guns. Sure, guns are nice, but ammunition is finite. And here's another thing about guns. A pistol is not a bad idea to have. Even a .22 is good because it's easy to carry and maintain. But it's only good for close range. To get a headshot from (we're all in agreement you have to destroy a zombie's brain to kill it, right?) with a pistol or rifle is pretty difficult. If you're near point blank range, then you should be able to pull it off okay, assuming you're only facing one zombie at a time. But what if several are coming at you from different directions? In this situation I would much rather have a high quality machette and dance around the zombies taking swings at their heads than trying to aim my gun right for it.
Maybe you have a shotgun then. Assuming you still have some shells left, you still need to be reasonably close to a zombie to take out enough of its brain with it for the weapon to be effective. A shotgun is more of a crowd control weapon anyway. Don't expect to kill many of them with it, but you can fire into a group of zombie and make them stagger, trip, etc, giving you time to run away.
And assault rifles? Assuming you can even figure out how to operate one they are still pretty encumbersome and unless you have an AK-47 which is one of the simplest most ergonomic assault rifles in existience (many rebel fighters around the world prefer them because they're easy to clean and don't jam as often as models such as the M-16), you're probably just better off ditching it the moment you empty a clip on some zombies. And assault rifles aren't exactly precision weapons either. They are very effective against other humans, but I wouldn't haul one around if there were zombies abound!
Try one step above the M-16. If I could get a hold of one of those it would be ideal. It gets rid of most of the problems had with the M-16. I wana say M-18?
You read my plan right? I have swords
Sharp enough to decapitate.
But I'm not worried about getting surrounded and dealing with large numbers. Thats not my game. Thats the zombies game. You lose the zombies game. You have to make them play your game. you simply cannot get surrounded by large numbers. the plan is to do whatever is in our power to avoid them. Not much of the emphasis is placed on actually interacting with them. Interaction is bad. Avoidance is good.
But if there are bandits...with guns...your machettee loses. That is a use for guns right off the bat.
As you said, the weapons will be used more for crowd control. I could care less if I actually kill them as long as my goal is accomplished. The goal will usually be to avoid. But in special cases where the zombie blocks your path and you need to kill it then I wouldn't mind trying to get off a few rounds before I resorted to closer ranged weapons.
So I would definitely want both.
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If you were stuck in a mall, something as simple as reversing the direction of escalators could make for brilliant barricades... zombies tripping over eachother would give you something to laugh at just before your surrounded and comsumed
My main problem would be my dog... I'd feel compelled to save him. Do zombies even attack dogs?
If you were stuck in a mall, something as simple as reversing the direction of escalators could make for brilliant barricades... zombies tripping over might give you something to laugh at just before your surrounded and comsumed
My main problem would be my dog... I'd feel compelled to save him. Do zombies even attack dogs?
sometimes no and sometimes yes.
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That depends on what you feel is the canon explanation to them. The one I subscribe to is that no, they do not. And why they insist on eating or trying to eat humans remains a complete mystery. They are complete automatons, and their one and only goal, or compulsion, or whatever you want to call it is to eat human flesh.
If you were stuck in a mall, something as simple as reversing the direction of escalators could make for brilliant barricades... zombies tripping over eachother would give you something to laugh at just before your surrounded and comsumed
My main problem would be my dog... I'd feel compelled to save him. Do zombies even attack dogs?
According to Dawn of the dead...I think yes they may resort to eating dogs at some point. Bring the dog as far as you can. It wont be that much of a burden if you are traveling by vehicle or even on foot.
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"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Why would they resort to anything? They want one thing and one thing only. Their thoughts aren't just going to change. This is the nature of the zombie. They have a single-minded purpose for the rest of their existence.
Nobody has mentioned petrol bombs... They wouldn't really stop the Zombies but they wouldn't be going for you anymore because they wouldn't be able to see
Without firefighters even a small fire could take down shitloads of houses in a reasonably dense populated area
Setting fire to a zombie would probably slow it down. There's reason to believe they still have use of other senses though like smell and sound. We're not even positive if they've ever been able to really see, or at least interpret what they're seeing. If you could really burn a zombie though to a crisp, and say, the brain somehow stayed intact, the zombie will still exist, but just be completely immobile.There could even be decapitated zombie heads. These heads are still "living" zombie heads.
I'd be a little concerned about the handling of a petrol bomb and would probably avoid using them in areas that are at higher risk for fire. Petrol though, like ammunition is finite and you may want to be careful how you use it.
My Plan in a Nutshell
1. First i call my friends, they will come with cars, guns, drugs and food.
2. We will barricade the school where i live since it has such a strategical location.
3. We will go on patrols with our cars and try to rescue every chick that we find. and if its a zombie, boom!
4. then we will just chill in the school and wait for the government to save us or something... .lol yeah right.
1: Zombies dead cells that has been reanimated by a virus called the T-Virus, they go after the living because it is the virus that wants to spread. Not the whole "Brains" thing.
2: Zombies go for the jugular, not the gray matter.
3: They can perform most actions that they did in life.
4: Most importantly, zombies don't have any weaknesses that come with life such as the need to breath, eat, drink, use the "john", sleep, etc...
5: They don't need to breath, they can simply walk along the bottom of the ocean to get to you, unless of course a hungry shark or lamprey eel sees them and wants to eat them, well guess what, now we have infected shark/lamprey eel.
6: Most zombies are idiots, but that doesn't mean that all are idiots as some can even remember life and how to do things. If your surrounded by a hoard of zombies, just hope that none remember some of life's pleasures or you might be doing the "dirty" with a couple. I'm pretty sure the virus can spread just like our many STD's.
7: Strength in numbers, plain and simple.
8: Zombies are NOT slow, they can run pretty quickly. As you will find out if running away.
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1: Zombies dead cells that has been reanimated by a virus called the T-Virus, they go after the living because it is the virus that wants to spread. Not the whole "Brains" thing.
2: Zombies go for the jugular, not the gray matter.
3: They can perform most actions that they did in life.
4: Most importantly, zombies don't have any weaknesses that come with life such as the need to breath, eat, drink, use the "john", sleep, etc...
5: They don't need to breath, they can simply walk along the bottom of the ocean to get to you, unless of course a hungry shark or lamprey eel sees them and wants to eat them, well guess what, now we have infected shark/lamprey eel.
6: Most zombies are idiots, but that doesn't mean that all are idiots as some can even remember life and how to do things. If your surrounded by a hoard of zombies, just hope that none remember some of life's pleasures or you might be doing the "dirty" with a couple. I'm pretty sure the virus can spread just like our many STD's.
7: Strength in numbers, plain and simple.
8: Zombies are NOT slow, they can run pretty quickly. As you will find out if running away.
Where did you get these facts might I ask?
I'm not sure that zombies have actually sprouted up yet so there is no "T virus" yet.
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-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
2: Someone with a Medical degree is very important, as you will find out if somebody gets injured.
3: Having a hot chick with you is fine, just make sure she knows how to handle weapon properly.
4: If hunting/fishing for food, always check the stomach contents and Don't eat if it ate something you can't recognize. Make sure to cook it thoroughly. Sorry, but Medium Rare isn't an option.
5: Always make sure you have water available, then weapons/ammo as we need water to survive. Boil if you are not sure if it's safe.
6: Fire will work on killing zombies, but don't expect it to keep them down while burning to a crisp as they will still be trying to get you. Fire takes time, it's like poison for zombies.
7: You may see somebody who you loved and cared for if they are a zombie, chances are they see you as fresh blood, nothing more. So kill it.
8: Conserve ammunition.
9: Somebody that is very important to the government will increase chances of being rescued, greatly.
10: Always, I mean always, post watches whenever camped out for the night.
11: Just because zombies may not remember how to open a door won't stop them from busting it down. Besides, busting down a door is much more fun than just simply opening it.
12: Have an experienced hunter use the high-powered rifle, chances are, they are very accurate and can pick off zombies 1 by 1 if needed.
13: Always have a job for every group member, even if its just to cook or drive.
14: Bring stress busters such as nude mags, games, etc... as you will see those who are stressed won't last long under pressure.
15: Don't stay in one place for too long. You will eventually get surrounded.
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Where did you get these facts might I ask?
I'm not sure that zombies have actually sprouted up yet so there is no "T virus" yet.
Have you ever played Resident Evil? If you did, you might remember thinking about the situation. Wondering if there is a conspiracy out there.
Also, it's the only possible explanation. Our government may or may not be working on bioweapons, well if they screw up, we have to pay.
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I'm not sure that zombies have actually sprouted up yet so there is no "T virus" yet.
he's talkin about resident evil zombies silly. dawn of the dead zombies are the flesh eating ones that run really fast, but are really dumb, and u need to off the brains to kill em.
28 days later zombies are actually another viral thing similar to dawn of the dead ones.
but the RE zombies were mostly slow, thus you could run away from them and often had to because you had 5 Goddamned shots left in you shotgun 90% of the time. of course that changed in RE4 when they made the game less scary but more action packed.
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he's talkin about resident evil zombies silly. dawn of the dead zombies are the flesh eating ones that run really fast, but are really dumb, and u need to off the brains to kill em.
If I remember correctly, in "Dawn of the Dead", they showed that it was all caused by a virus on a news station as a guy explained it. Good movie by the way.
28 days later zombies are actually another viral thing similar to dawn of the dead ones.
I never saw this movie, so no comment.
but the RE zombies were mostly slow, thus you could run away from them and often had to because you had 5 Goddamned shots left in you shotgun 90% of the time. of course that changed in RE4 when they made the game less scary but more action packed.
Excuse me, but ummm... yeah they can move pretty damn quickly in the RE games and movies. Resident Evil 4 had no zombies, they were just controlled by the Las Plagas, which in turn were controlled by Lord Saddler. Las Plagas did't reanimate dead bodies, but they could act as the brain for the body. First time I played RE4, Saddler raped my ass so hard it felt better every time he raped me again after that. I got so plugged up I couldn't s**t for a week.
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Excuse me, but ummm... yeah they can move pretty damn quickly in the RE games and movies. Resident Evil 4 had no zombies, they were just controlled by the Las Plagas, which in turn were controlled by Lord Saddler. Las Plagas did't reanimate dead bodies, but they could act as the brain for the body. First time I played RE4, Saddler raped my ass so hard it felt better every time he raped me again after that. I got so plugged up I couldn't s**t for a week.
not in the 3 ive played, you can outrun most of the zombies except when the game actually calls for you to kill them. ive played 4 and im not the biggest fan of that one, its fun but theres no sense of horror because you cant run out of ammo; they basically made it a james bond game with 'infected' baddies.
and you should watch 28 days later, its about a virus too, more similar to RE4, because it doesnt reanimate the dead, or at least i thought so...i didnt pay that much attention to the story
but the plans made in zombie survival flicks just dont work half the time do they?
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"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
1: Zombies dead cells that has been reanimated by a virus called the T-Virus, they go after the living because it is the virus that wants to spread. Not the whole "Brains" thing.
The zombie creating virus is called Solanum. The virus uses the brain cells in the frontal lobe to replicate itself, destroying the brain cells in the process. All bodily functions eventually cease except that the brain lays dormant. Meanwhile, the virus is mutating the brain into a completely new organ. This new organ is not dependent on oxygen.
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2: Zombies go for the jugular, not the gray matter.
They go for neither, necessarily. They'll just eat whatever living flesh they can sink their teeth into.
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3: They can perform most actions that they did in life.
Grossly inaccurate. They can perform at best a series of motor functions.
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4: Most importantly, zombies don't have any weaknesses that come with life such as the need to breath, eat, drink, use the "john", sleep, etc...
This is correct.
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5: They don't need to breath, they can simply walk along the bottom of the ocean to get to you, unless of course a hungry shark or lamprey eel sees them and wants to eat them, well guess what, now we have infected shark/lamprey eel.
This is correct except the part about infected sharks or any other animal. Solanum can only host itself to the human brain.
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6: Most zombies are idiots, but that doesn't mean that all are idiots as some can even remember life and how to do things. If your surrounded by a hoard of zombies, just hope that none remember some of life's pleasures or you might be doing the "dirty" with a couple. I'm pretty sure the virus can spread just like our many STD's.
Say whaaaaat? The worst thing that some zombie movies did to the zombie genre was make people think zombies would want to do some of the things they did in their previous life. This is so false. All they want, the only single thing, is to eat living human flesh. That is ALL!
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8: Zombies are NOT slow, they can run pretty quickly. As you will find out if running away.
This is true to some extent. But running is a task that requires more coordination, something a zombie does not have. And depending on their muscle degredation, they may be able to move faster, some may have broken limbs and are just limping along, while others may have their legs blown off completely and are reduced to a crawl.
not in the 3 ive played, you can outrun most of the zombies except when the game actually calls for you to kill them. ive played 4 and im not the biggest fan of that one, its fun but theres no sense of horror because you cant run out of ammo; they basically made it a james bond game with 'infected' baddies.
and you should watch 28 days later, its about a virus too, more similar to RE4, because it doesnt reanimate the dead, or at least i thought so...i didnt pay that much attention to the story
but the plans made in zombie survival flicks just dont work half the time do they?
No, they don't.
The zombie creating virus is called Solanum. The virus uses the brain cells in the frontal lobe to replicate itself, destroying the brain cells in the process. All bodily functions eventually cease except that the brain lays dormant. Meanwhile, the virus is mutating the brain into a completely new organ. This new organ is not dependent on oxygen.
Where did you get this information?
Say whaaaaat? The worst thing that some zombie movies did to the zombie genre was make people think zombies would want to do some of the things they did in their previous life. This is so false. All they want, the only single thing, is to eat living human flesh. That is ALL!
First off, You have no imagination. Second, your just jealous that an undead can get in bed with a hot chick and you can't.
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Silently Lurking...
"Nothing is True. Everything is Permitted." ~ Ezio Auditore de Firenze
Try one step above the M-16. If I could get a hold of one of those it would be ideal. It gets rid of most of the problems had with the M-16. I wana say M-18?
You read my plan right? I have swords
Sharp enough to decapitate.
But I'm not worried about getting surrounded and dealing with large numbers. Thats not my game. Thats the zombies game. You lose the zombies game. You have to make them play your game. you simply cannot get surrounded by large numbers. the plan is to do whatever is in our power to avoid them. Not much of the emphasis is placed on actually interacting with them. Interaction is bad. Avoidance is good.
But if there are bandits...with guns...your machettee loses. That is a use for guns right off the bat.
As you said, the weapons will be used more for crowd control. I could care less if I actually kill them as long as my goal is accomplished. The goal will usually be to avoid. But in special cases where the zombie blocks your path and you need to kill it then I wouldn't mind trying to get off a few rounds before I resorted to closer ranged weapons.
So I would definitely want both.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
My main problem would be my dog... I'd feel compelled to save him. Do zombies even attack dogs?
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
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According to Dawn of the dead...I think yes they may resort to eating dogs at some point. Bring the dog as far as you can. It wont be that much of a burden if you are traveling by vehicle or even on foot.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
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Without firefighters even a small fire could take down shitloads of houses in a reasonably dense populated area
I'd be a little concerned about the handling of a petrol bomb and would probably avoid using them in areas that are at higher risk for fire. Petrol though, like ammunition is finite and you may want to be careful how you use it.
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My Plan in a Nutshell
1. First i call my friends, they will come with cars, guns, drugs and food.
2. We will barricade the school where i live since it has such a strategical location.
3. We will go on patrols with our cars and try to rescue every chick that we find. and if its a zombie, boom!
4. then we will just chill in the school and wait for the government to save us or something... .lol yeah right.
1: Zombies dead cells that has been reanimated by a virus called the T-Virus, they go after the living because it is the virus that wants to spread. Not the whole "Brains" thing.
2: Zombies go for the jugular, not the gray matter.
3: They can perform most actions that they did in life.
4: Most importantly, zombies don't have any weaknesses that come with life such as the need to breath, eat, drink, use the "john", sleep, etc...
5: They don't need to breath, they can simply walk along the bottom of the ocean to get to you, unless of course a hungry shark or lamprey eel sees them and wants to eat them, well guess what, now we have infected shark/lamprey eel.
6: Most zombies are idiots, but that doesn't mean that all are idiots as some can even remember life and how to do things. If your surrounded by a hoard of zombies, just hope that none remember some of life's pleasures or you might be doing the "dirty" with a couple. I'm pretty sure the virus can spread just like our many STD's.
7: Strength in numbers, plain and simple.
8: Zombies are NOT slow, they can run pretty quickly. As you will find out if running away.
Where did you get these facts might I ask?
I'm not sure that zombies have actually sprouted up yet so there is no "T virus" yet.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
1: Don't expect to get rescued.
2: Someone with a Medical degree is very important, as you will find out if somebody gets injured.
3: Having a hot chick with you is fine, just make sure she knows how to handle weapon properly.
4: If hunting/fishing for food, always check the stomach contents and Don't eat if it ate something you can't recognize. Make sure to cook it thoroughly. Sorry, but Medium Rare isn't an option.
5: Always make sure you have water available, then weapons/ammo as we need water to survive. Boil if you are not sure if it's safe.
6: Fire will work on killing zombies, but don't expect it to keep them down while burning to a crisp as they will still be trying to get you. Fire takes time, it's like poison for zombies.
7: You may see somebody who you loved and cared for if they are a zombie, chances are they see you as fresh blood, nothing more. So kill it.
8: Conserve ammunition.
9: Somebody that is very important to the government will increase chances of being rescued, greatly.
10: Always, I mean always, post watches whenever camped out for the night.
11: Just because zombies may not remember how to open a door won't stop them from busting it down. Besides, busting down a door is much more fun than just simply opening it.
12: Have an experienced hunter use the high-powered rifle, chances are, they are very accurate and can pick off zombies 1 by 1 if needed.
13: Always have a job for every group member, even if its just to cook or drive.
14: Bring stress busters such as nude mags, games, etc... as you will see those who are stressed won't last long under pressure.
15: Don't stay in one place for too long. You will eventually get surrounded.
Have you ever played Resident Evil? If you did, you might remember thinking about the situation. Wondering if there is a conspiracy out there.
Also, it's the only possible explanation. Our government may or may not be working on bioweapons, well if they screw up, we have to pay.
28 days later zombies are actually another viral thing similar to dawn of the dead ones.
but the RE zombies were mostly slow, thus you could run away from them and often had to because you had 5 Goddamned shots left in you shotgun 90% of the time. of course that changed in RE4 when they made the game less scary but more action packed.
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
If I remember correctly, in "Dawn of the Dead", they showed that it was all caused by a virus on a news station as a guy explained it. Good movie by the way.
I never saw this movie, so no comment.
Excuse me, but ummm... yeah they can move pretty damn quickly in the RE games and movies. Resident Evil 4 had no zombies, they were just controlled by the Las Plagas, which in turn were controlled by Lord Saddler. Las Plagas did't reanimate dead bodies, but they could act as the brain for the body. First time I played RE4, Saddler raped my ass so hard it felt better every time he raped me again after that. I got so plugged up I couldn't s**t for a week.
and you should watch 28 days later, its about a virus too, more similar to RE4, because it doesnt reanimate the dead, or at least i thought so...i didnt pay that much attention to the story
but the plans made in zombie survival flicks just dont work half the time do they?
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
The zombie creating virus is called Solanum. The virus uses the brain cells in the frontal lobe to replicate itself, destroying the brain cells in the process. All bodily functions eventually cease except that the brain lays dormant. Meanwhile, the virus is mutating the brain into a completely new organ. This new organ is not dependent on oxygen.
They go for neither, necessarily. They'll just eat whatever living flesh they can sink their teeth into.
Grossly inaccurate. They can perform at best a series of motor functions.
This is correct.
This is correct except the part about infected sharks or any other animal. Solanum can only host itself to the human brain.
Say whaaaaat? The worst thing that some zombie movies did to the zombie genre was make people think zombies would want to do some of the things they did in their previous life. This is so false. All they want, the only single thing, is to eat living human flesh. That is ALL!
This is true to some extent. But running is a task that requires more coordination, something a zombie does not have. And depending on their muscle degredation, they may be able to move faster, some may have broken limbs and are just limping along, while others may have their legs blown off completely and are reduced to a crawl.
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"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
No, they don't.
Where did you get this information?
First off, You have no imagination. Second, your just jealous that an undead can get in bed with a hot chick and you can't.
I know, right? I wish my imagination had come up with being raped by a zombie. I so lack creativity.
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Why do I have an urge to go play a RE game?