well light ray i agree with you in that yes art needs change. but only little tiny tweaks. remember the age of the romans, where sculptures were made beautifully and accurate. nowadays there are more traditional artists.
but i feel that even a five year old can make something. if a little boy made what was in his mind a dragon but it looked more like a dog, there you have a world famous artist. all you need to do now is draw down what you think and say what its supposed to be. you dont really need the skill of being able to accurately draw down what you see in your mind's eye.
they all belong in mental asylums as well as psychiatrists. they just give you drugs to cure all your problems. in my mind drugs are wrong and should only be used to cure physical pain. (there are some extreme or really rare cases) depression or little sleep is a result of not having enough to do.
amen brother, amen. especially the digital art you yourself make. the signature and my avatar i personally searched the movie and took out of because there are like no pictures of me with my two swords.
Yes I would agree with you that most messed up art may just reflect a persons messed up head....but whats weird is that maybe insanity, or lets call it weirdness, might be a good indicator of becoming a genious. Let me draw you to some examples of people I think in genious level:
Leonardo Da Vinci - very reserved mysterious guy, wrote backwards, made some really devestating military death machines, other than the usual works we know him by.
Michael Angelo - dissected people to develop his skills in understanding the human anatomy (same goes with Da Vinci).
Lord Byron - Great poet, womanizer, bad boy yet women were still drawn to him. Something to do with his personality and power of words?
Van Gogh - Cut of his ear, famous also for his blue period and sad paintings.
Einstien - Okay he looks really weird, and his theories are out of this world: potential to time travel, 4th dimension, etc.
Plato - Best known philosopher in the world, claims he has an inner voice or guardian, or as he calls it, his inner Daemon, who he talks to for guidance and truth.
Hitler - Hate this guy, he is really crazy in the head with what he caused, but whats amazing is that he managed to rise in power, gain so much control and influence and made the killing of Jews appear a normal thing to do.
Theres probably more. Yep there are those geniouses that are weird but smart, and then there are those who just need to go to an asylum.
Dont know how recent this post is (havnt not been on for half a year) but i tried to look at the link to carls designs and the page cant be found, im rather currious since he was so open to criticism and how others reacted (in their posts), personally i think the cover lightray looks fanstastic grats on that, i just dont think it fits the diablo series, i look at it and i dont think diablo, i think a darker game with demonicism being your class fighting good, being the game is called diablo (the devil) and having much to do with hell, their needs to be either blood or flames, and i dont meen in massive ammounts, just a little would capture the essence of hell and the devil himself more and really remind you of what the game is and is about. other then that i did like it alot, the angel i dont know about his clothing, the blood stains looked killer, but the clothing to me again doesnt remind me of a diablo'istic kinda angel, the metal halo (being not directly above his head) looked nice, and for the black wings oh man grats those looks amazing, but the clothing needs more, im not an artist in any way, so i cant say what, but it seems like somthing missing, in spite of what iv already said i do realy like it, you seem pretty talented.
actually now that i look at it i do see the slight flamation around the DIABLO title, i still cant put my finger on why its not getting into my head, like i dont think hell and the devil, hm id give suggestions, but other people might hate it and i dont wanna be to picky.
sry for so many consecutive posts, but also i read some of your first posts saying you should have done a terrifying demonic demon rather then a renagade angel, and i realy do like the idea of an angel like that, might be interesting to throw somthing like that on the cover (angel and a demon fighting in the backround kinda faded and transparent)
kinda like the new zelda where its the signiture logo and a faded wolf in the backround in a pose, i dont know if anyone else likes that idea or not, but thought id mention it, you seem to be a good artist so id be realy interested in how your demons would look especially if it was in direct combat (still image) with your angel
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good points lightray. hitler was a man to hate for his horrible character but he was a genious. he was able to take a country out of depression and twenty years later its taking over all of europe.
anyways, murderface you have quite some nerve telling me what something is and telling the discussion is over. its quite offensive and a bad move to make towards a higher ranking member of SICK. even if your not in SICK you still are pretty stupid doing something so bold with only 39 posts. if i were you i would keep my bad comments to myself till at least 200 posts.
cynicalpulse welcome back. you have very good comments and i thank you for your compliments (i think). here is the picture. it should come up......
post any comments/critizisms here. it would be greatly appreciated. i didnt really make it, i cut out the head of a blizzard pic and enhanced it a bit. yes i did mispell riegn.
anyways thats all i gotta say for now. wait, darkjay can you get me a picture of that pie?? you are such a wonderful artist and i would just love to see it!!
Thanks for your insightful input Cynical Pulse, I do agree it doesn't quite fit into the diablo series, and especially the flames around the diablo title.
What I wanted to do was introduce something different in the Diablo series. Instead of your clean cut good versus evil game, I wanted to blur the lines between the two. So you have angels descending down from Heaven breaking the formal code to clean up the mess on earth in their own way, kinda like what Tyrael is believed to be doing according to fan gossip. So the renegade angel I created in this case is doing that, and he would transform (clean up) the earth in his own image. Other angels and even the good humans don't agree with him, so this may potentially lead even the good side fighting amongst themselves....kinda like politics today. There is really no reality, just perception. And I wanted to introduce a new feel or style to the game, which is gothic and dark. I mean we can stick with the blood and gore to identify the forces of evil right away, but I hoped of introducing other styles to associate other forms of beliefs, perceptions, cultures in teh game.
I guess an idea like this is more suited for an open ended world like Oblivion. I dunno just my ideas.
ok thats realy gay, i posted like 3 comments last time i was on and it only put one on here (must not have registerd) and now i cant remember what i said =_(
anywais lightray i sounded kinda negative when i was talking about your ideas and art and stuff, i wasnt saying not feeling the diablo vibe was a bad thing, the only problem other people might have is that they might look at it and think "oh its changed to much i might not wanna get it" personally i think d2 has been around long enough for 5 games worth of that kind of fighting/storyline so a change would be pretty interesting and fun, i like the idea, but the fact that it doesnt seem in que i guess u could say with the others might turn them away
but then again if they hear enough buzz about it afterwards (few weeks after release if/when it happens) then they would prolly end up getting the game anywais, iunno. but i do remember some of the other comments i made about your art,
that i did see little flamation around the words of the diablo title but somthing seemed to be missing, i like the gothic look, but it doesnt realy fit the original plot or yours, your saying good clashing against one another, it seems to dark of a cover for your perspective aswell, but like i said im not an artist in any way so maybe i just have no clue wut im talking about XD
as far as the angel i love those wings grats on those man they look incredible
however i dont like his clothing, i dont know why, because the blood effects and shiny (hard to notice unless u want to critisize) hyrogliphics on his robes, but if hes gunna be a renagade angel trying to question or fight his own kind then i vision a little armor (not alot jus a little so he seems more godlike and mystified) and another thing i realy loved was the metal halo (in that its vertical not above his head) it looks amazing, and about the cover that i thought about, at first i was currious (after reading your comment about "you should have made a scary demon instead") what a demon would look like if made by you, and if it was to follow d2 storyline kinda thing but still slightly yours, a demon clashing with your angel in the backround of your original box, but they would be transparent and faded (i think that would make your cover alot cooler and less dark if it was to follow good clashing amongst one another), but if it was to follow your storyline completly maybe tyreal fighting with your angel (since u brought tyreal up, maybe the renagage is lookin at tyreals actions and enhancing them into direct interaction with humons and disrupting the balance, thus asking tyreal to join him, having misread tyreal, tyreal refuses and tries to protect the race he has struggled so much to keep safe)
and i THINK that covers most of what i said in my last posts that didnt register
oh and carl the pic isnt showing up on my computer, if you wouldnt mind emailing it im cynicalpulse@yahoo.com
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lol hold on.....i just saw that pic of your cover design on a magazine sayin blizzard announced D3....is dat fake? and if it aint lol how did yours get on? and i meen i like it, but do you work at blizz or did they just check out the site and talk to you about it or wut? and if its real.....WHY DA HELL AINT I HEARD ABOUT IT BEIN ANNOUNCED YET >.<
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but i feel that even a five year old can make something. if a little boy made what was in his mind a dragon but it looked more like a dog, there you have a world famous artist. all you need to do now is draw down what you think and say what its supposed to be. you dont really need the skill of being able to accurately draw down what you see in your mind's eye.
Leonardo Da Vinci - very reserved mysterious guy, wrote backwards, made some really devestating military death machines, other than the usual works we know him by.
Michael Angelo - dissected people to develop his skills in understanding the human anatomy (same goes with Da Vinci).
Lord Byron - Great poet, womanizer, bad boy yet women were still drawn to him. Something to do with his personality and power of words?
Van Gogh - Cut of his ear, famous also for his blue period and sad paintings.
Einstien - Okay he looks really weird, and his theories are out of this world: potential to time travel, 4th dimension, etc.
Plato - Best known philosopher in the world, claims he has an inner voice or guardian, or as he calls it, his inner Daemon, who he talks to for guidance and truth.
Hitler - Hate this guy, he is really crazy in the head with what he caused, but whats amazing is that he managed to rise in power, gain so much control and influence and made the killing of Jews appear a normal thing to do.
Theres probably more. Yep there are those geniouses that are weird but smart, and then there are those who just need to go to an asylum.
Lightray
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
actually now that i look at it i do see the slight flamation around the DIABLO title, i still cant put my finger on why its not getting into my head, like i dont think hell and the devil, hm id give suggestions, but other people might hate it and i dont wanna be to picky.
sry for so many consecutive posts, but also i read some of your first posts saying you should have done a terrifying demonic demon rather then a renagade angel, and i realy do like the idea of an angel like that, might be interesting to throw somthing like that on the cover (angel and a demon fighting in the backround kinda faded and transparent)
kinda like the new zelda where its the signiture logo and a faded wolf in the backround in a pose, i dont know if anyone else likes that idea or not, but thought id mention it, you seem to be a good artist so id be realy interested in how your demons would look especially if it was in direct combat (still image) with your angel
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anyways, murderface you have quite some nerve telling me what something is and telling the discussion is over. its quite offensive and a bad move to make towards a higher ranking member of SICK. even if your not in SICK you still are pretty stupid doing something so bold with only 39 posts. if i were you i would keep my bad comments to myself till at least 200 posts.
cynicalpulse welcome back. you have very good comments and i thank you for your compliments (i think). here is the picture. it should come up......
post any comments/critizisms here. it would be greatly appreciated. i didnt really make it, i cut out the head of a blizzard pic and enhanced it a bit. yes i did mispell riegn.
anyways thats all i gotta say for now. wait, darkjay can you get me a picture of that pie?? you are such a wonderful artist and i would just love to see it!!
ps i dug this up, its pretty old lol
Darkjay Industries Presents:
What I wanted to do was introduce something different in the Diablo series. Instead of your clean cut good versus evil game, I wanted to blur the lines between the two. So you have angels descending down from Heaven breaking the formal code to clean up the mess on earth in their own way, kinda like what Tyrael is believed to be doing according to fan gossip. So the renegade angel I created in this case is doing that, and he would transform (clean up) the earth in his own image. Other angels and even the good humans don't agree with him, so this may potentially lead even the good side fighting amongst themselves....kinda like politics today. There is really no reality, just perception. And I wanted to introduce a new feel or style to the game, which is gothic and dark. I mean we can stick with the blood and gore to identify the forces of evil right away, but I hoped of introducing other styles to associate other forms of beliefs, perceptions, cultures in teh game.
I guess an idea like this is more suited for an open ended world like Oblivion. I dunno just my ideas.
Lightray
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
anywais lightray i sounded kinda negative when i was talking about your ideas and art and stuff, i wasnt saying not feeling the diablo vibe was a bad thing, the only problem other people might have is that they might look at it and think "oh its changed to much i might not wanna get it" personally i think d2 has been around long enough for 5 games worth of that kind of fighting/storyline so a change would be pretty interesting and fun, i like the idea, but the fact that it doesnt seem in que i guess u could say with the others might turn them away
but then again if they hear enough buzz about it afterwards (few weeks after release if/when it happens) then they would prolly end up getting the game anywais, iunno. but i do remember some of the other comments i made about your art,
that i did see little flamation around the words of the diablo title but somthing seemed to be missing, i like the gothic look, but it doesnt realy fit the original plot or yours, your saying good clashing against one another, it seems to dark of a cover for your perspective aswell, but like i said im not an artist in any way so maybe i just have no clue wut im talking about XD
as far as the angel i love those wings grats on those man they look incredible
however i dont like his clothing, i dont know why, because the blood effects and shiny (hard to notice unless u want to critisize) hyrogliphics on his robes, but if hes gunna be a renagade angel trying to question or fight his own kind then i vision a little armor (not alot jus a little so he seems more godlike and mystified) and another thing i realy loved was the metal halo (in that its vertical not above his head) it looks amazing, and about the cover that i thought about, at first i was currious (after reading your comment about "you should have made a scary demon instead") what a demon would look like if made by you, and if it was to follow d2 storyline kinda thing but still slightly yours, a demon clashing with your angel in the backround of your original box, but they would be transparent and faded (i think that would make your cover alot cooler and less dark if it was to follow good clashing amongst one another), but if it was to follow your storyline completly maybe tyreal fighting with your angel (since u brought tyreal up, maybe the renagage is lookin at tyreals actions and enhancing them into direct interaction with humons and disrupting the balance, thus asking tyreal to join him, having misread tyreal, tyreal refuses and tries to protect the race he has struggled so much to keep safe)
and i THINK that covers most of what i said in my last posts that didnt register
oh and carl the pic isnt showing up on my computer, if you wouldnt mind emailing it im cynicalpulse@yahoo.com
ty
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