Wow, it has been a while since someone has left. lemme change that.
Notification of Resignation
Guild: Silver Inferno Crusading Knights
Reason for leaving: Apparently, according to the members list, im no longer a member of the diablofans.com clan. idk what that means, but i am lower than even people like Winston, who resigned from sick a long.. long time ago. How do you think that makes me feel? to be lower than someone who isnt even in the clan? Also, im pretty sure that i put in a leave of absence, which should entitle me to immunity of being de-ranked... but i guess not. anyways, i feel that i have done a lot for this clan game wise, and at the LEAST, a little bit forum wise. but i guess that accounts for nothing, so unless you guys can give me a reason to not leave, im done here. it was fun until we started getting new members who ruined it for me, and people being promoted, who didnt deserve it, and i want to thank you for the fun times. Take care everyone, and i hope the best for my good friends, you know who you are.
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Looking at the ranking page you will notice we did a major overhaul. Inactivity had plagued the guild. Those who were inactive for any period of time we cut. We cut members first and figured if anyone wanted back in they would speak up when the time came. If you wish to Leave then so be it. Though know that this was not a direct attack at you and more of a direct attack at guild inactivity in which you fell victim to. If you wish to be reinstated then We are glad to have you. Indeed like you said, you have done much in terms of guild activity on and off the battle field, and we'd hate to lose you.
Wow, it has been a while since someone has left. lemme change that.
Notification of Resignation
Guild: Silver Inferno Crusading Knights
Reason for leaving: Apparently, according to the members list, im no longer a member of the diablofans.com clan. idk what that means, but i am lower than even people like Winston, who resigned from sick a long.. long time ago. How do you think that makes me feel? to be lower than someone who isnt even in the clan? Also, im pretty sure that i put in a leave of absence, which should entitle me to immunity of being de-ranked... but i guess not. anyways, i feel that i have done a lot for this clan game wise, and at the LEAST, a little bit forum wise. but i guess that accounts for nothing, so unless you guys can give me a reason to not leave, im done here. it was fun until we started getting new members who ruined it for me, and people being promoted, who didnt deserve it, and i want to thank you for the fun times. Take care everyone, and i hope the best for my good friends, you know who you are.
Not the only one to fall from SICK in such a manner, I understand your sentiment friend. Perhaps SICK may become great and powerful again, and rise as an ally to- to something in the works.
Silver, if I may be reinstated merely to help your cause, I would like to do it. I spoke to a friend earlier today, that felt cheated and betrayed at my leave when things got difficult. I would like to be reinstated at least to help in the rebuilding and re-order of SICK so that it can get back on track and not seem lost.
And if you decide not to take my offer, that too is fine.
Looking at the ranking page you will notice we did a major overhaul. Inactivity had plagued the guild. Those who were inactive for any period of time we cut. We cut members first and figured if anyone wanted back in they would speak up when the time came. If you wish to Leave then so be it. Though know that this was not a direct attack at you and more of a direct attack at guild inactivity in which you fell victim to. If you wish to be reinstated then We are glad to have you. Indeed like you said, you have done much in terms of guild activity on and off the battle field, and we'd hate to lose you.
Yes, i have noticed that you did do a major overhaul. But i also have noticed that that happened when you guys got rid of the Sub-Divisions of the Guild, which caused the Complete Destruction of SICK altogether. No offense, but you guys have done nothing but Rammed This Guild Straight into the ground. In my opinion, it was caused by lack of leadership. You either put the wrong people in the wrong positions of leadership, or you and Elfen yourselves have been poor leaders. I love you two to death, because i have known you guys for so long, but think about how the guild is right now, and think of how it used to be... Something needs to happen, or New leaders need to be Appointed. Also, i was inactive only because i was out of town, and pretty much away from a computer for a really really long time. I put in a leave of absence, which once again, should have protected me from being de-ranked. Also, it says you guys updated on the 26th of August... what about Winston? He has been just as inactive hasnt he? i talked with him yesterday, and he told me that he doesnt even go to this site anymore. He also put in his resignation a long long time ago, why would he even still be on the Roster? I dont want to leave, but unless some serious changes happen, i will. The main thing i am waiting for, is just to talk to a certain individual. He should know who im talking about, so when he gets a chance, just let me know your alive man, and i will try to come into contact with you. Until i talk with this guy, i wont resign, but if it takes to long, im gone. I really want to say something else, but i cant remember what lol, so i will just leave it at that for now.
-Caliban
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well written m8, lets not ride the lightning- instead lets get this clan out of the ground and into a successful forward moving clan. i have had a load of experience being one of the top people in a clan but its nice to sit back and let others take that annoying job.
here are a few things i think should be happening from my experience and a few tips
- once you give orders on something you will always need to give orders on the same subject
- there needs to be one unified voice (as it is now it seems like there are a bunch of leaders all saying different things)
- we all either need to be part of the decision making or one person has to take an iron grip on everything.
- to get a sense of unity its a good idea to do role calls everyday or every other day (so simply post in a thread etc)
- holding meetings either in game, in chat, or on teamspeak/ventrilo
- roster needs to be constantly updated, from experience its best to get it done as fast as humanly possible
- as far as ranks go i have found it best to have something like this: there is the top man, then 2 men below him then 4 below him and then each of those 4 is the head of a large squad. the squad being composed of around 4 ranks or so (like one sgt, one ssgt, one pvt, and one pfc, etc) (obviously we will use our own rank names (i shall post some of my ideas later)
these are my ideas for possible rank titles
peasant
militia
soldier
slayer
Knight
Champion
count
Baron
Duke
Guardian
Patriarch
Holy One
Messiah
*anyways im in a bit of a hurry so ill post more later
Not the only one to fall from SICK in such a manner, I understand your sentiment friend. Perhaps SICK may become great and powerful again, and rise as an ally to- to something in the works.
Silver, if I may be reinstated merely to help your cause, I would like to do it. I spoke to a friend earlier today, that felt cheated and betrayed at my leave when things got difficult. I would like to be reinstated at least to help in the rebuilding and re-order of SICK so that it can get back on track and not seem lost.
And if you decide not to take my offer, that too is fine.
Are you joining again only to leave in the future once more?
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Carloseus your no longer in the clan?
if so then wtf why?
He left under his own will
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Yes, i have noticed that you did do a major overhaul. But i also have noticed that that happened when you guys got rid of the Sub-Divisions of the Guild, which caused the Complete Destruction of SICK altogether. No offense, but you guys have done nothing but Rammed This Guild Straight into the ground. In my opinion, it was caused by lack of leadership. You either put the wrong people in the wrong positions of leadership, or you and Elfen yourselves have been poor leaders. I love you two to death, because i have known you guys for so long, but think about how the guild is right now, and think of how it used to be... Something needs to happen, or New leaders need to be Appointed. Also, i was inactive only because i was out of town, and pretty much away from a computer for a really really long time. I put in a leave of absence, which once again, should have protected me from being de-ranked. Also, it says you guys updated on the 26th of August... what about Winston? He has been just as inactive hasnt he? i talked with him yesterday, and he told me that he doesnt even go to this site anymore. He also put in his resignation a long long time ago, why would he even still be on the Roster? I dont want to leave, but unless some serious changes happen, i will. The main thing i am waiting for, is just to talk to a certain individual. He should know who im talking about, so when he gets a chance, just let me know your alive man, and i will try to come into contact with you. Until i talk with this guy, i wont resign, but if it takes to long, im gone. I really want to say something else, but i cant remember what lol, so i will just leave it at that for now.
-Caliban
Winston Was initially cut like yourself and then reapplied for guild membership
Looking back i do see the leave of absence you filled out. Thus u are right and u should not have been cut. We cut 90% of the guild base and i blasted the list to a few members to double check. As stated earlier we took on the attitude of Cut those not active at current time. You fell into that category by mistake and i do not believe anyone scrolled back far enough in the leave of absence form to find your post 4 months back.
Quote from "Num3n" »
well written m8, lets not ride the lightning- instead lets get this clan out of the ground and into a successful forward moving clan. i have had a load of experience being one of the top people in a clan but its nice to sit back and let others take that annoying job.
here are a few things i think should be happening from my experience and a few tips
- once you give orders on something you will always need to give orders on the same subject
- there needs to be one unified voice (as it is now it seems like there are a bunch of leaders all saying different things)
- we all either need to be part of the decision making or one person has to take an iron grip on everything.
- to get a sense of unity its a good idea to do role calls everyday or every other day (so simply post in a thread etc)
- holding meetings either in game, in chat, or on teamspeak/ventrilo
- roster needs to be constantly updated, from experience its best to get it done as fast as humanly possible
- as far as ranks go i have found it best to have something like this: there is the top man, then 2 men below him then 4 below him and then each of those 4 is the head of a large squad. the squad being composed of around 4 ranks or so (like one sgt, one ssgt, one pvt, and one pfc, etc) (obviously we will use our own rank names (i shall post some of my ideas later)
We do not have enough members to take on a ranking system as such. We used to but after the cuts we do not have enough. Currently the guild has Active members and we hold council meetings to discuss guild movements and stance. So most the time we are all on the same page. The roster is currently up to date with the exception of Caliban(who will be added after i post this)
Thank you, Also, i can see that i was and still am on the list, which does say something, at least i wasnt completely removed... at least you guys had the thought that i might come back. I thank you deeply for that, it means a lot to not have been removed completely.
Edit: nevermind, i thought that i was "Cali" but i guess not, i guess i was completely removed without a thought. thanks...
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Thank you, Also, i can see that i was and still am on the list, which does say something, at least i wasnt completely removed... at least you guys had the thought that i might come back. I thank you deeply for that, it means a lot to not have been removed completely.
Edit: nevermind, i thought that i was "Cali" but i guess not, i guess i was completely removed without a thought. thanks...
..........you can't leave..... i won't allow it.
dude just re apply please....
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
i dont think he should have to re apply we all know he was in the clan and was wrongfully let go. This isnt the government here we can use common sense so someone just add him back to the roster
see here's the problem. I too have been cut, but i don't care that much. You guys cut a lot of people due to inactivity as you should. I didn't want to be cut but i had to be because there is no way that i could play D2 active enough for you guys. Im sure that the guild will get back on its feet when D3 comes out because im sure that a lot of people will join/rejoin(like me) it because people will be able to play D3 more actively than D2. I tried being active but i got bored of it and distracted by other things. The guild is in ok shape for now.
I've said my two sense, now back into the shadows of British literature and AP government.
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"I'm like a dog chasing cars." - Joker, Dark Knight
I decided not to leave for the time Bambi... btw, how have you been? i havent talked to you in a very very long time. your the last person i expected to see replying to this lol.
And yeah WhiteGhost, you are correct, but i dont want to be in a guild where people leave and only come back when something interesting is going on. I would rather people come just to be with friends, talk, and have fun. Thats my ideal type of Guild. If thats not their reason for coming, then they don't care enough about us for me to care about them. I know right now, that if i made a guild, i could trust in about 10 people to follow me, and never leave because they just enjoy being in a guild with friends, to talk, play, anything.
Edit: Bambi, do you still play Diablo II at all? if so, maybe we should play some time, i hope to soon be on that list of "100% Legit Baal Runners" pm me to reply please, i dont want to spam this thread with discussion
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Not the only one to fall from SICK in such a manner, I understand your sentiment friend. Perhaps SICK may become great and powerful again, and rise as an ally to- to something in the works.
Silver, if I may be reinstated merely to help your cause, I would like to do it. I spoke to a friend earlier today, that felt cheated and betrayed at my leave when things got difficult. I would like to be reinstated at least to help in the rebuilding and re-order of SICK so that it can get back on track and not seem lost.
And if you decide not to take my offer, that too is fine.
I withdraw my offer. I love SICK, many of its members, however I see that it will go nowhere until the forum is fixed.
And what exactly is it with the forum that needs fixing in regards to SICK? Most of SICK is actually off the forum and is done through the games. And has no bearing on the forum nor does the forum has a bearing on SICK.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
see here's the problem. I too have been cut, but i don't care that much. You guys cut a lot of people due to inactivity as you should. I didn't want to be cut but i had to be because there is no way that i could play D2 active enough for you guys. Im sure that the guild will get back on its feet when D3 comes out because im sure that a lot of people will join/rejoin(like me) it because people will be able to play D3 more actively than D2. I tried being active but i got bored of it and distracted by other things. The guild is in ok shape for now.
I've said my two sense, now back into the shadows of British literature and AP government.
now does that not make anyone else sad? a valued member of the clan gone simply because his real life took precedent over a game. if you are not able to play the game i believe everyone should be allowed to give a reason why and as such they are kept in the clan. Naturally however it would have to be a good reason. furthermore the laws of the clan should not be swift strokes of a sword but rather thought out slow ones that make sense.
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And what exactly is it with the forum that needs fixing in regards to SICK? Most of SICK is actually off the forum and is done through the games. And has no bearing on the forum nor does the forum has a bearing on SICK.
then why does the forum dictate who is and who is not in the clan?
And what exactly is it with the forum that needs fixing in regards to SICK? Most of SICK is actually off the forum and is done through the games. And has no bearing on the forum nor does the forum has a bearing on SICK.
SICK used to be both Forum and Game. When it was a fun guild, it had a lot to do with the forums... there was a lot going on here.
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then why does the forum dictate who is and who is not in the clan?
Xero[GXAII] is a member of SICK, yet is not on the forums.
Well at least he is a member according to xfire.
Just most members are from here.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
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Notification of Resignation
Guild: Silver Inferno Crusading Knights
Reason for leaving: Apparently, according to the members list, im no longer a member of the diablofans.com clan. idk what that means, but i am lower than even people like Winston, who resigned from sick a long.. long time ago. How do you think that makes me feel? to be lower than someone who isnt even in the clan? Also, im pretty sure that i put in a leave of absence, which should entitle me to immunity of being de-ranked... but i guess not. anyways, i feel that i have done a lot for this clan game wise, and at the LEAST, a little bit forum wise. but i guess that accounts for nothing, so unless you guys can give me a reason to not leave, im done here. it was fun until we started getting new members who ruined it for me, and people being promoted, who didnt deserve it, and i want to thank you for the fun times. Take care everyone, and i hope the best for my good friends, you know who you are.
Not the only one to fall from SICK in such a manner, I understand your sentiment friend. Perhaps SICK may become great and powerful again, and rise as an ally to- to something in the works.
Silver, if I may be reinstated merely to help your cause, I would like to do it. I spoke to a friend earlier today, that felt cheated and betrayed at my leave when things got difficult. I would like to be reinstated at least to help in the rebuilding and re-order of SICK so that it can get back on track and not seem lost.
And if you decide not to take my offer, that too is fine.
if so then wtf why?
Yes, i have noticed that you did do a major overhaul. But i also have noticed that that happened when you guys got rid of the Sub-Divisions of the Guild, which caused the Complete Destruction of SICK altogether. No offense, but you guys have done nothing but Rammed This Guild Straight into the ground. In my opinion, it was caused by lack of leadership. You either put the wrong people in the wrong positions of leadership, or you and Elfen yourselves have been poor leaders. I love you two to death, because i have known you guys for so long, but think about how the guild is right now, and think of how it used to be... Something needs to happen, or New leaders need to be Appointed. Also, i was inactive only because i was out of town, and pretty much away from a computer for a really really long time. I put in a leave of absence, which once again, should have protected me from being de-ranked. Also, it says you guys updated on the 26th of August... what about Winston? He has been just as inactive hasnt he? i talked with him yesterday, and he told me that he doesnt even go to this site anymore. He also put in his resignation a long long time ago, why would he even still be on the Roster? I dont want to leave, but unless some serious changes happen, i will. The main thing i am waiting for, is just to talk to a certain individual. He should know who im talking about, so when he gets a chance, just let me know your alive man, and i will try to come into contact with you. Until i talk with this guy, i wont resign, but if it takes to long, im gone. I really want to say something else, but i cant remember what lol, so i will just leave it at that for now.
-Caliban
here are a few things i think should be happening from my experience and a few tips
- once you give orders on something you will always need to give orders on the same subject
- there needs to be one unified voice (as it is now it seems like there are a bunch of leaders all saying different things)
- we all either need to be part of the decision making or one person has to take an iron grip on everything.
- to get a sense of unity its a good idea to do role calls everyday or every other day (so simply post in a thread etc)
- holding meetings either in game, in chat, or on teamspeak/ventrilo
- roster needs to be constantly updated, from experience its best to get it done as fast as humanly possible
- as far as ranks go i have found it best to have something like this: there is the top man, then 2 men below him then 4 below him and then each of those 4 is the head of a large squad. the squad being composed of around 4 ranks or so (like one sgt, one ssgt, one pvt, and one pfc, etc) (obviously we will use our own rank names (i shall post some of my ideas later)
these are my ideas for possible rank titles
peasant
militia
soldier
slayer
Knight
Champion
count
Baron
Duke
Guardian
Patriarch
Holy One
Messiah
*anyways im in a bit of a hurry so ill post more later
Are you joining again only to leave in the future once more?
He left under his own will
Winston Was initially cut like yourself and then reapplied for guild membership
Looking back i do see the leave of absence you filled out. Thus u are right and u should not have been cut. We cut 90% of the guild base and i blasted the list to a few members to double check. As stated earlier we took on the attitude of Cut those not active at current time. You fell into that category by mistake and i do not believe anyone scrolled back far enough in the leave of absence form to find your post 4 months back.
We do not have enough members to take on a ranking system as such. We used to but after the cuts we do not have enough. Currently the guild has Active members and we hold council meetings to discuss guild movements and stance. So most the time we are all on the same page. The roster is currently up to date with the exception of Caliban(who will be added after i post this)
-SILVER-
Edit: nevermind, i thought that i was "Cali" but i guess not, i guess i was completely removed without a thought. thanks...
..........you can't leave..... i won't allow it.
dude just re apply please....
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
I've said my two sense, now back into the shadows of British literature and AP government.
And yeah WhiteGhost, you are correct, but i dont want to be in a guild where people leave and only come back when something interesting is going on. I would rather people come just to be with friends, talk, and have fun. Thats my ideal type of Guild. If thats not their reason for coming, then they don't care enough about us for me to care about them. I know right now, that if i made a guild, i could trust in about 10 people to follow me, and never leave because they just enjoy being in a guild with friends, to talk, play, anything.
Edit: Bambi, do you still play Diablo II at all? if so, maybe we should play some time, i hope to soon be on that list of "100% Legit Baal Runners" pm me to reply please, i dont want to spam this thread with discussion
I withdraw my offer. I love SICK, many of its members, however I see that it will go nowhere until the forum is fixed.
now does that not make anyone else sad? a valued member of the clan gone simply because his real life took precedent over a game. if you are not able to play the game i believe everyone should be allowed to give a reason why and as such they are kept in the clan. Naturally however it would have to be a good reason. furthermore the laws of the clan should not be swift strokes of a sword but rather thought out slow ones that make sense.
then why does the forum dictate who is and who is not in the clan?
SICK used to be both Forum and Game. When it was a fun guild, it had a lot to do with the forums... there was a lot going on here.
Xero[GXAII] is a member of SICK, yet is not on the forums.
Well at least he is a member according to xfire.
Just most members are from here.