So when Sankekur, being influenced telepathically by Mephisto, shattered Mephisto's soulstone, he shoved a piece of the soulstone into himself to contain Mephisto and each of the counsil members (willingly?) shoved a piece into their hands, corrupting them? Is that the reason that the counsil members have soulstones in their bodies?
But why did Diablo use Leoric's son? Wouldn't it be better to use a grown man's body, like one of Leoric's servants? Maybe it was easier to possess a boy's mind than a grown man's mind? When Diablo possessed Leoric's son, the boy went into the labyrinth and shoved a large piece of Diablo's soulstone into his forehead, and became Diablo?
Diablo was likely looking for a strong mind to possess, not a strong body: Albrecht is tranformed into a demonic form way larger than his human size.
Albrecht was also abducted by Lazarus himself and drawn into the labyrinth.
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Some time ago, someone had a theory that Diablo was originally an Archangel called Mirakodus, who also appeared in the Kingdom of Shadow, but it was never confirmed, so who knows.
That theory holds about as much water as theories predicting that Deckard Cain is the ultimate evil in the universe, perhaps less even. Which is to say none at all.
Aside from the fact that events in The Kingdom of Shadow cannot be considered canon outright, Miradokus did appear in Kingdom of Shadow, but as nothing more than Diablo disguised. To take that persona as proof that demons were once angels it just as ridiculous as thinking demons were once humans just because Lilith disguises herself as one in Birthright.
The clearest account of the origin of angels and demons we have come from Inarius in Birthright, where he recalls how heaven and hell were created at the same time and quickly fell into war with each other. To question that account is to question the lore established in D1 and D2, and there are no accounts in the lore to suggest anything else is true.
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That's uncertain to be sure. His story is hinted at in the Legacy of Blood, but since that book is no longer considered canon it's hard to draw anything conclusive for that.
However, the Diablo lore is understandeable much slimmer than the Warcraft lore at this point, but I think Blizzard want's to greatly expand it. And that cannot be done without further exploring the characters already present. Horazon and his brother Bartuc were both interesting characters in D1 and D2, so I would be surprised if we didn't learn more about them some day. Whether that will be in D3 or not I don't know.
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I realize that this might be a difficult/impossible question to answer at the moment, but I'm curious. I was reading about the beliefs of the Umbaru and was wondering how their concept of "The Unformed Land" fits into the Diablo universe as we know it. Is it plausible? How might it affect Sanctuary, Heaven/Hell, the Balance, etc.
Sanctuary is a rather busy place, what with every religion being 100% true. The world is an illusion resting on a giant space dragon while amazonian goddesses reach down to guide arrows and the nature spirits come to help the druids and the barbarians commune with their ancestors, etc.
Yea I was sad when D3 barb wouldn't be same as D2 :'(
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Or i thought that large and destroyed building to the far right of the map was the cathedral. My bad.
Have another question, wich might contain some spoiler:
In D3 beta, after saving the templar and helping him get his gear back, you face and defeat what really looks like a necromancer. The odd thing is, the templar and necromancer seens to know each other and belong to the same "order". Isn't that odd since necromancers were suppose to be connected to Trang-Oul (instead of some church) ? Am I missing something ?
I'm glad his not a real necromancer. An thing I like about Diablo's necromancers is their ability to not be corrupted by hellsh forces..
I would be really upset if blizz throwed us a corrupted necro so early game and made him look like foolish noob.
Still, his armor (black leather reinforced by bones) really resemble a necromancer. I wonder if that armor is a "uniform" of Rathman's priests or just a random "dark" mage vest.
I'm glad his not a real necromancer. An thing I like about Diablo's necromancers is their ability to not be corrupted by hellsh forces..
I would be really upset if blizz throwed us a corrupted necro so early game and made him look like foolish noob.
Still, his armor (black leather reinforced by bones) really resemble a necromancer. I wonder if that armor is a "uniform" of Rathman's priests or just a random "dark" mage vest.
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IF you red moon of the spider book there is a corrupt necro in it. Zayle ultimatley kicks his ass though.
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Anyways i thought the horadrim stopped Zoltun Kulle before he was able to create that black soulstone as their last mission. I am kind of confused. Could anyone explain?
Furthermore, it is important to note that while the Book of Cain is canon, it is only canon from Deckard Cain's perspective. Meaning that since Cain isn't omniscient, there may be factual errors in his account. As Metzen and the other writers pointed out in the recent Book of Cain signing interview, this means that details could be off in Cain's account.
In short, Cain and the Horadrim could well believe that the Black Soulstone was never created, but this belief may well be wrong. Since the stone appeared in the teaser cinematic, it would seem they were.
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Since the worldstone is gone, shouldn't nephalem powers break free ?
Yes. But not immediately like a crowd at the Mall on a Black Friday sale.
Yea, since it's been said the worldstone took the powers away from the nephalem over generations, I would think to reverse it would take the same amount of time. IE, why D3 is 20 years later, a generation or two away
Lilith is the mother of Andariel according to some people. Is that right ?
I don't think it is since Andariel is one of the seven Evils, so she spawned from one of the Tathamet's head, not from Lilith. Right ?
Lilith is the mother of Andariel according to some people. Is that right ?
I don't think it is since Andariel is one of the seven Evils, so she spawned from one of the Tathamet's head, not from Lilith. Right ?
It's not right. The story that Lilith was Andariel's mother comes from the Arreat Summit, but has been retconned with the Book of Cain where Andariel is stated to have spawned from one of Tathamet's seven heads.
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I've always wondered why Baal was portrayed as a cunning, subtle and devius prime evil in the cinematics (being freed by marius while appearing before him as a pleading Tal'Rasha & taking on the guise of Tyrael during the talk with Marius), while being described as a force of destruction in the lore. Is there a way to make the deception fit his overall character?
It is true that many view Baal as the dumbest of the Three, especially in the Sin War novels, but it appears that this is a somewhat incorrect image of him. He might still be the "dumbest" of the Three, which is perhaps where this image comes from, but that should still make him pretty smart. Remember, the "lore" in the games and the books is almost always told by some person who have had no actual contact with Baal.
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I think it was purely a game event, my reasoning being the info in the Book of Cain. In there the last time Lilith is mentioned is when she was banished from Sanctuary by Inarius during the Sin War. She is never mentioned again during the tales of the Dark Wanderer (Diablo 2).
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Diablo was likely looking for a strong mind to possess, not a strong body: Albrecht is tranformed into a demonic form way larger than his human size.
Albrecht was also abducted by Lazarus himself and drawn into the labyrinth.
Aside from the fact that events in
The clearest account of the origin of angels and demons we have come from Inarius in Birthright, where he recalls how heaven and hell were created at the same time and quickly fell into war with each other. To question that account is to question the lore established in D1 and D2, and there are no accounts in the lore to suggest anything else is true.
In short, demons are not fallen angels.
However, the Diablo lore is understandeable much slimmer than the Warcraft lore at this point, but I think Blizzard want's to greatly expand it. And that cannot be done without further exploring the characters already present. Horazon and his brother Bartuc were both interesting characters in D1 and D2, so I would be surprised if we didn't learn more about them some day. Whether that will be in D3 or not I don't know.
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Wise ElderSanctuary is a rather busy place, what with every religion being 100% true. The world is an illusion resting on a giant space dragon while amazonian goddesses reach down to guide arrows and the nature spirits come to help the druids and the barbarians commune with their ancestors, etc.
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Wasn't Tristram Cethedral destroyed during D2 ?
It was rebuild by the new Tristram denizens or it's destruction was retconed ?
Have another question, wich might contain some spoiler:
In D3 beta, after saving the templar and helping him get his gear back, you face and defeat what really looks like a necromancer. The odd thing is, the templar and necromancer seens to know each other and belong to the same "order". Isn't that odd since necromancers were suppose to be connected to Trang-Oul (instead of some church) ? Am I missing something ?
I would be really upset if blizz throwed us a corrupted necro so early game and made him look like foolish noob.
Still, his armor (black leather reinforced by bones) really resemble a necromancer. I wonder if that armor is a "uniform" of Rathman's priests or just a random "dark" mage vest.
Thnx Doomscream for your attention!
IF you red moon of the spider book there is a corrupt necro in it. Zayle ultimatley kicks his ass though.
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In short, Cain and the Horadrim could well believe that the Black Soulstone was never created, but this belief may well be wrong. Since the stone appeared in the teaser cinematic, it would seem they were.
I don't think anyone's going to fault you for not browsing through 600 posts before asking your question here
Since the worldstone is gone, shouldn't nephalem powers break free ?
Yea, since it's been said the worldstone took the powers away from the nephalem over generations, I would think to reverse it would take the same amount of time. IE, why D3 is 20 years later, a generation or two away
I don't think it is since Andariel is one of the seven Evils, so she spawned from one of the Tathamet's head, not from Lilith. Right ?
Baal needed the soulstone in order to corrupt the